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(This is a likely scenario for my district, being that we have three engines.) :-k As the riding Officer, first I would do what an Officer does at every incident - SIZE UP. I would assess for injuries, fluids, patient entrapment, etc. I would then radio in my findings and report my situation, and request the resources I needed. I would then contact the Chief Officer responding and inform them of the situation, and advise them we are unable to respond. I would make sure the other responding units were aware of the situation and detour as neccessary. If I was the Senior Officer responding, I would inform my next Senior Officer that they will be the IC, and other options need to be considered. (Mutual Aid, adding an engine, using the Tanker as another engine, etc.) As I stated, treat this incident as you would your routine MVA, size-up and stabilize the situation ASAP.

Ladder 48 eh? Sounds good. If Ladder 48 is replacing E186 at GSFH, will L18 remain there as well? And I wish you the best of luck with your new pumper. Let me know how it turns out.

The transport pumper, interesting concept. Seagrave also produces one, which seems well thought out.

Hudson is on the money with his / her comments. On arrival of a working fire, the first arriving officer should immediatly request a FAST, and in the process of giving incoming units their assignments, should also designate a FAST crew. The NFPA states that for every two personnel operating in an IDLH atmosphere they should be supported by two personnel outside the IDLH. If you have two engines and a truck on your initial alarm, you could take a couple off the 2nd due engine and designate them the FAST until the incoming Team has arrived. It is good to see that the FAST concept has been accepted in many districts in Westchester, and it is good to know that more departments are creating their own teams. Keep up the good (and smart) work Westchester! =D>

I have seen old women climb down a straight-stick from over 70 feet up. They'll do it, takes a good motivator to get them to do it. The bucket is nice, but takes some getting used to. Personally, a rear mount straight-stick is A+, followed by mid-mount tower. Personal favorites in Westchester are L41, L47, TL57, TL5.

Is that Bedford's R44 or a Boar's Head meat truck?! :roll:

Hey all, I recently broke my digital camera, and was wondering if anyone knew of a good place to get it fixed, preferably in northern Westchester.

Hmmmm.....could it be? Let me know!

Engine 119 Croton, a 1984 Mack was a custom build entirely, but I don't believe it was the last one in the area.

The attached requirements list.... where is it?! :mrgreen:

You all make good points. One thing I find troublesome about the Imagers is the loss of a hand to do other tasks. Of course you could buy the unit that mounts to your head, but 9 times out of 10, the guy wearing it is focused on it, and not thier surroundings. My Department uses the Bullard Handheld unit, and I like it very much. It is rugged, dependable and resourceful. I also was fortunate to have used the new unit I believe Morning Pride was making that looks like a map light that mounts to the helmet. I found that it came in handy if it was used when it NEEDED TO BE USED. Alot of the guys I was working with were too busy looking at the small "window" and didn't notice other activity around them. One firefighter didn't even notice the hose on the floor and fell. My point is simple, an imager is a TOOL. It is not your eyes, it is not designed to replace one of your senses. It is a TOOL! Use it like any other tool we use in this industry, only when it is called for and is necessary.

Doesn't NFPA say this practice is inappropriate? We stopped riding the tailboards over a decade ago. In the mid-90's, we discontinued the practice of riding on top of the rigs in the hosebeds as well. It was a good decision, and it was the right decision. Hopefully, someone can shed some light on the NFPA standards for this.....

To make a few additions.... Crash occured on TSP NB just over the Westchester border in Putnam Valley's Fire/EMS area. WCPD requested fire and ems, Putnam 40 Control notified @0249. WCPD requested Stat-Flight which was down for weather @0254. 40 Control requested EMS from Mohegan @0302. 40 Control requested Fire units from Mohegan @0305. Mohegan E252, 69B2, 2261, 2262 on scene within minutes, handled extrication, and transported patients as well. Mahopac Falls EMS also on location.

Date: 2/1/04 Time: Incident @15:16hrs, Writing @ 1935 Location: Croton Gorge Park (Below Croton Dam on Rt 129) Units: 2082, 2083, 55B1, 36M1, Air 1 Frequency: 46.26 / 46.14 for Statflight Description: Dispatched for injuries from a sleigh-riding accident, on arrival found 11 yom w/ sever blunt trauma to head, loss of consciousness <5 minutes. Air 1 to scene, patient transported via same to WMC - Air 1 landed on snow in park, intubated child enroute to WMC. Writer: 119-1

Didn't the NWPFD L47 say "Stickin' it to you" at one point? I thought that was priceless.

Updated: 01-20-2004 05:28:17 PM Traditional Q-Siren Sound Awarded Trademark Story Tools: Send It - Print It - Most Sent - Most Popular Insider: Get e-Alerts - Register/Subscribe HEATHER CASPI Firehouse.Com News Federal Signal Corporation became the first manufacturer in the fire industry to trademark the sound of a siren, the company announced. The United States Trademark Executor awarded the trademark in late 2003 and to the best of Federal Signal's knowledge, their siren is one of very few sounds ever granted a trademark. Marketing manager Jim Sortino said a few other sounds that have been trademarked in the past include the sound of the Harley Davidson engine, the MGM lion roar, and a sound GE used in advertisements. In order to get the trademark, Federal Signal had to submit testimonials from officials in the fire industry stating that the Q-Siren is recognizable and associated with Federal Signal. They also showed that the sound has been in use for 50 years and that it has a loyal following among many firefighters. "This is one way for us to promote what the industry already knows - the Q-Siren has a distinct sound that's traditional in the industry," Sortino said. Sortino said they also sought the trademark to prevent other companies from attempting to copy the sound siren. He said some competitors have already promoted their product as "sounding like" the Q-Siren. "The fact that we now have the trademark makes it more difficult to make those claims," he said. "It's like the Lifetime Achievement Award for sirens," said Federal Signal's Vice President of Engineering Joe Bader in a prepared statement. "The Q-Siren was ahead of its time as the leader in emergency warning and is finally receiving recognition as the most reliable and recognizable sound in the industry" According to Bader, _The Q-Siren holds over 50 years of quality and reliability. If a customer buys a siren for the Q sound, they should be assured that they are getting the real Federal Signal Q-Siren and not a copy product." AS QUOTED FROM FIREHOUSE.COM

I think this may fall back on the whole "Scene Survey" and "BLS before ALS" mentality, that many providers lack. First, many people think automatically that an MVA w/ airbag deployment is justification for ALS transport. Not true, infact, most vehicles have air-bag deployments in minor fender-benders where the occupants aren't even injured. Sadly, most EMTs are trained by their own agencies that "ALS is always there." Many EMTs that I have noticed over the last 5-6 years kind of step back and observe, when they should be stepping up to the plate. Nobody, and I really mean NOBODY surveys a scene as good as they should anymore. One indicator I like to use to assess vehicle damage is to actually get on the ground and look at the frame and structural members to see how bad the collision actually was. One good indicator too is engine damage. If the engine is intact and not leaking fluids too bad, the damage is most likely minor. Just some personal thoughts....

Lieutenant6474 has the right idea, and it sounds very similar to the MABAS that Suburban Illinois areas use. MABAS, the Mutual-Aid Box Alarm System, simplfies most everything. If you have no control or no calmness on the air, it immediatly can turn into chaos. For starters, let's push for a FAST / RIT on all structure fires COUNTYWIDE. Those departments that don't call them and/or don't call them immediatly are putting their own men in jeopardy. Recently, a Westchester department was operating on a residential fire, and waited far too long to request a FAST. Luckily, the northern part of Westchester and river departments have been doing a good job at this for a few years. Our FAST responded to 17 alarms in 2003, all of which were immediate dispatches, unless it was the one incident where we were a 2nd due FAST. Big or Small, every Department needs to have a preplan for mutual aid, etc. before "game day."

The County Chiefs should spend some time working out a plan for this - too much time is focused on issues that aren't moving anywhere.

We're looking at a rig with a 750 gallon tank, 1500 GPM pump, and more of a rescue-type body. The current Engine is Croton's primary FAST unit, and we carry alot of equipment, so the body type we are going to need has to accomodate all of our gear. We're going with the goal of being a self-sufficent rig, it will have an electric generator, plenty of scene lighting and other great attributes. If you want other info, feel free to contact me.

Speaking of the old Maxim rigs... Where'd they all go? I know our old E118, a 1963 Maxim was junked. And our old L44 a 1971 Maxim went to the Upper Jay, NY Fire Department. Rumor had it that it is their first aerial, and the next due is some 20-30 miles away...WOW!

A "WETdown wouldn't be so bad, if it was AUGUST! Giving the new U-12 a deep freeze may not be the best thing for a new rig....

Ambulance 6 was Somers..... Not sure on anything else.

1 - No idea 2 - No idea 3 - Armonk? 4 - Croton 5 - No idea 6 - Hawthorne 7 - Briarcliff 8 - Verplanck 9 - No idea 10 - Armonk? 11 - No idea 12 - Hawthorne 13 - Sleepy Hollow 14 - Briarcliff How'd I do?

Many Kudos to Chris Becker, and members of the WCVFA and others who pushed and pushed this bill to get it passed!! Hats off fellas!