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The following is the list of elected Croton FD Fire Officers for 2006. Chief: Gary Diggs 1st Asst. Chief: Art Roosa Jr. 2nd Asst. Chief: Phil Dinkler Captain (E118): Andy Beames Captain (E119/T10): Jim Ferguson Captain (E120/M12): Bill Vlad (Outgoing 2081) Captain (TL44): John Oles Captain (R18/EMS): John Delaney 1st Lt (E118): Fran Gennarelli 1st Lt (E119): Chris Colombo 1st Lt (E120/M12): John Barirde 1st Lt (TL44): Pat Smith 1st Lt (R18/EMS): Gregg Tucci 2nd Lt (E118): Chuck Conti 2nd Lt (E119): Art Roosa III 2nd Lt (E120/M12): To be determined* 2nd Lt (TL44): Rocco Cusano 2nd Lt (R18/EMS): Maureen Lillis Engineer (E118): Matt Mansfield Engineer (E119): John Munson Engineer (T10): Bill Gallagher Engineer (E120): To be announced Engineer (R18): John Ghegan Engineer (EMS): Charlie O'Connor *-A Run-off vote will be held 12/12 to break a tie that occured on 12/6. Congrats and best of luck to all!

I was thumbing through the pages of the new December 2005 Firehouse Magazine and came across an advertisement for this unit. I have to say that it sparked my interest, so I went to the website to read more about it. Those of you in the fire service are bound to be familiar with the ever-present risk of CO during firefighting operations. I know that over the years I've not only seen brothers feeling the effects after a fire, but have also felt it myself. It would be nice to see those in the rehab sector utiliing these units to help treat someone more "appropriately" then guessing if CO is an issue. Obviously, just because we have this kind of device out there now, it doesn't mean we can drop our masks and wait and see how high our carboxyhemoglobin levels can get.... Here's the link - Masimo SET Rad-57 Any thoughts? Personally I would like to not only see my FD get these for our rehab ops, but I'd like to look into them at my VAC as well. And not just for fire scenes but at those CO incidents we run every year. Not to drift too far off topic, but I am also a believer in purchasing a CO meter to clip onto EMS bags to warn personnel of possible situations we may not be aware of.

I believe John Dillon defeated the Incumbent Jay Schwartz.

On an update, the E120/M12 2nd Lieutenant is Dan Vlad.

Man, I wish I had 5-6"......wait, we're talking about snow?! Never mind.

We still have house sirens that get used during daytime hours only for fire calls. Personally, I think we could do away with them 100%. Considering that during the day, most of our members are out of town working, home sleeping because they work shifts or simply doing other things, not many people hear them anyway. I know that we've been having radio issues, but I don't know many incidents where someone's pager didn't go off and they responded because they heard the house sirens. One solution that could benefit us is the dispatching service of, dare I say it, 60 Control. If we had continued problems, we could get dispatched off multiple towers and/or supplement this with the I-page to vital personnel. But GOD forbid we make a PROGRESSIVE CHANGE! Not just us, but the whole area as a whole. Sirens are obsolete. If a member is going to be an active responder, they're going to have thier pager on them anyway! Or, in some rare cases, actually spend some time at the firehouse......where they're bound to know about a call one way or another. Time to go brush off my car, I only hope I can hear the house siren over all the snowblowers and plows around me. ( :angry: )

Please stick to the subject at hand......thanks.

Most Volunteer Departments still have a siren and/or horn system to supplement the pagers. Off the top of my head I can think of these... Archville, Bedford Hills, Bedford, Briarcliff, Banksville, Buchanan, Chappaqua, Croton, Elmsford, Goldens Bridge, Hawthorne, Irvington, Katonah, Mamaroneck Village, Millwood, Montrose, Mount Kisco, Sleepy Hollow, North White Plains, Ossining, Pleasantville, Pocantico Hills, Somers, South Salem, Tarrytown, Thornwood, Verplanck, Yorktown, Grasslands Fire Brigade, Vista

Heavy Snow Warning URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE UPTON NY 429 AM EST THU DEC 8 2005 ...SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM LATE TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY... .A VIGOROUS WEATHER DISTURBANCE WILL TRACK THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY TODAY...AIDING IN RAPID INTENSIFICATION OF A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST TONIGHT. THE LOW IS THEN FORECAST TO TRACK NORTHEAST ON FRIDAY...PASSING SOUTHEAST OF CAPE COD FRIDAY AFTERNOON. WITH COLD AIR IN PLACE TO INTERACT WITH THE ABUNDANT ATLANTIC AND GULF OF MEXICO MOISTURE THROWN OVER THE AREA...A SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM WILL AFFECT THE REGION LATE TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY. JUST AS WITH OUR MOST RECENT STORM THOUGH...THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY IN THE EXACT TRACK AND STRENGTH OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. JUST A SMALL CHANGE IN THIS TRACK COULD HAVE DRASTIC IMPLICATIONS FOR THE REGION...IN TERMS OF ALL SNOW VERSUS A MIXTURE OF RAIN AND SNOW OR EVEN A CHANGEOVER TO ALL RAIN... ESPECIALLY ACROSS COASTAL LOCALES. AS IT STANDS NOW...THIS STORM WILL BE MUCH STRONGER AND IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE A MORE SIGNIFICANT AND WIDESPREAD SNOWFALL THAN THE ONE THAT AFFECTED US EARLIER IN THE WEEK. CTZ005-006-NJZ002-NYZ067>070-082130- /O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0002.051209T0600Z-051209T2200Z/ /O.NEW.KOKX.HS.W.0002.051209T0600Z-051209T1800Z/ NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-WESTERN PASSAIC-ORANGE- PUTNAM-ROCKLAND-NORTHERN WESTCHESTER- 429 AM EST THU DEC 8 2005 ...HEAVY SNOW WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 1 PM EST FRIDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A HEAVY SNOW WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 1 PM EST FRIDAY. LIGHT SNOW WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE REGION LATE TONIGHT...AND WILL BECOME STEADIER AND HEAVIER AROUND DAYBREAK ON FRIDAY. THE SNOW WILL BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FRIDAY MORNING...BEFORE STARTING TO TAPER OFF FRIDAY AFTERNOON. BETWEEN 5 AND 10 INCHES OF TOTAL ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED BEFORE THE SNOW TAPERS OFF FRIDAY AFTERNOON. A HEAVY SNOW WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE FORECAST THAT WILL MAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS. ONLY TRAVEL IN AN EMERGENCY. IF YOU MUST...KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT...FOOD...AND WATER IN YOUR VEHICLE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. $$ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hazardous Weather Outlook HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE UPTON NY 549 AM EST THU DEC 8 2005 CTZ005-006-NJZ002-NYZ067>070-091100- NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-WESTERN PASSAIC-ORANGE- PUTNAM-ROCKLAND-NORTHERN WESTCHESTER- 549 AM EST THU DEC 8 2005 THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST NEW YORK. .DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT A HEAVY SNOW WARNING IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TONIGHT THROUGH 1 PM FRIDAY. 5 TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW IS EXPECTED BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. PLEASE REFER TO WSWOKX FOR FURTHER DETAILS. .DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY A HEAVY SNOW WARNING IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TONIGHT THROUGH 1 PM FRIDAY. 5 TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW IS EXPECTED BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. PLEASE REFER TO WSWOKX FOR FURTHER DETAILS. NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME. .SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT... SPOTTER ACTIVATION MAY BE NEEDED ON FRIDAY.

Swell...

Why ask the question that's asked. I ask this of everyone... How many volunteer Departments train with other volunteer ones? How many volunteer FD's with multiple companies actually train within? IE Engine and Ladder company drills.... How can most career FD's train with the volunteer FD's? For the most part, weekday training is out for volunteers, and most career FD's have to keep up with their required NYS training during the day right? Not to mention their code enforcement and other responsibilities.

Having volunteer officers tell paid firefighters is bad?! How so? I know plenty of volunteer Fire Officers in the area that are better then people give them credit for. There is no such thing as a paid driver in Westchester. Career firefighters in combo departments - as far as I know - are mainly responsible for bringing apparatus to the scene. What happens after this point is entirely up to each agency. Who cares if someone is a career or volunteer firefighter on the knob or making the search. Get the job done, get it done quick, and go home without anyone being hurt! Someone lock this topic now, because it is going downhill quick. No paid vs. volly fights, keep the bickering over more important things, like who makes the best hot dog.

I live by the thought that I should always do what will let me sleep at night....

Special Weather Statement from the National Weather Service: NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-NORTHERN NEW HAVEN-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX- NORTHERN NEW LONDON-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN- SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-WESTERN PASSAIC-BERGEN- EASTERN PASSAIC-ESSEX-HUDSON-UNION-ORANGE-PUTNAM-ROCKLAND- NORTHERN WESTCHESTER-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)- BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-QUEENS-NASSAU- NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK- SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK- 417 AM EST SAT DEC 3 2005 ...WINTRY WEATHER IS LIKELY LATE TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY... ...THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER WINTER STORM LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY... A FAST MOVING AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE REGION LATER TONIGHT. THIS LOW WILL THEN QUICKLY SLIDE JUST SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND DURING SUNDAY. INITIALLY...THE ATMOSPHERE WILL BE COLD ENOUGH FOR THE PRECIPITATION TO START AS SNOW EVERYWHERE. A QUICK 1 TO 2 INCH WET SNOW ACCUMULATION IS LIKELY FROM LATE TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING. HOWEVER...AS THE WINDS TURN TOWARD THE SOUTH...SNOW WILL QUICKLY CHANGE TO RAIN ACROSS THE NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN AREA AND LONG ISLAND. FOR LOCATIONS FARTHER INLAND ACROSS NORTHERN NEW JERSEY...THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY OF NEW YORK AND INTERIOR SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT...ADDITIONAL SNOW MAY FALL. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE AROUND 3 INCHES COULD ACCUMULATE ACROSS THESE INLAND LOCATIONS. ONCE THIS LOW MOVES NORTHEAST OF LONG ISLAND...THERE WILL BE A LULL IN THE PRECIPITATION SUNDAY NIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY. WE COULD SEE ONE MORE ROUND OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION LATER MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. ANOTHER LOW IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER THE SOUTHEAST STATES AND TRACK NORTHEAST TO A POSITION OFF THE MID ATLANTIC COAST BY TUESDAY MORNING. THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY IN THE EXACT TRACK AND INTENSITY OF THIS SECOND STORM...SO PLEASE STAY TUNED FOR THE LATEST FORECASTS AND UPDATES ON THIS STORM. NOW IS THE TIME TO REVIEW WINTER WEATHER PREPAREDNESS REQUIREMENTS FOR YOUR HOME AND VEHICLE...AND TO COMPLETE FALL CLEANUP ACTIVITIES.

Kinda makes me think of Rip Torn's line in "Dodgeball;" "Is it neccessary for me to drink my own urine, no, but I like the taste." One word: WOW!

This past Summer, we were dispatched on Route 9 for a report of a rollover MVA south of the district line. While responding, I was advised from 60 Control that it may be over the line. As the Officer in Charge of our Department, I had our Engine (which I was on) continue in and 60 dispatched the appropriate agencies. For once, my choice paid off. When we arrived we found a single car rollover with one patient ejected. The quick actions of the EMTs in my crew and on scene saved this person's life. When the neighboring Chief arrived, I quickly turned Command over to him and offered our assistance until we were released. So my point is this....who cares if you piss in someone's cereal? So long as the fire gets put out or the people in need are saved, does it matter which agency does it? In the end, I am sure we'd all agree that helping those in need is our #1 priority, even if we step over our territorial lines.

Lessons of the Stouffer's Inn fire, 25 years later By RICHARD LIEBSON rliebson@thejournalnews.com THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original publication: December 4, 2005) HARRISON — Al Mignone was working at his family's deli in Purchase on a cold Dec. 4 morning when the call came in — a report of smoke at Stouffer's Inn. Twenty-five years later Mignone, an assistant chief of the Purchase Fire Department at the time, still remembers the feeling he had as he drove toward the West Red Oak Lane hotel complex from the Hutchinson River Parkway. "I could see thick smoke rolling over the hill bank, and I could smell wood burning," he recalled. "I knew right then that we had something really bad going on." Considered the biggest disaster in Westchester County history, the fire in a conference building at Stouffer's claimed the lives of 26 businesspeople and injured 23. Fire officials say it also prompted changes in building and fire codes across the county, state and nation. Although some 25 to 30 firefighters from Harrison and surrounding communities responded within minutes, a lack of fire sprinklers and highly flammable carpeting and wall coverings in the three-story conference building allowed the blaze to spread with stunning speed. That's what Farideh Farhadi, who escaped with singed eyebrows and a mild case of smoke inhalation, remembered most. "It happened so fast," the now 58-year-old Fort Lee, N.J., resident said. A former Nestle Co. employee who was attending a conference at Stouffer's, Farhadi said she arrived late and ended up sitting in the back row of the room, near the exit. She said her tardiness saved her life. "The woman who was sitting right next to me died, and the man who was right behind me on the way out, seconds behind me, was burned very badly," Farhadi said. "I remember that he was wearing a polyester shirt that was melted onto his skin, and he was literally only a few steps behind me. ... All of the people who sat in the front of the room died." Mignone said, "The people who survived got out in the first six or seven minutes. The rest were dead when we got there." Only one hallway area of the Stouffer's conference building had fire sprinklers. Authorities say the loss of life there could have been avoided if what now seem like basic fire prevention measures had been required at the time. "There was no statewide code then," said Steve Rocklind, associate architect with the state Department of State's codes enforcement division. "All we had was a model code that local communities could follow on a voluntary basis. The Stouffer's fire was a major catalyst in getting the state Legislature to finally enact a statewide code and later to require fire sprinklers in hotels, motels and other buildings where people gather." Professor Glenn Corbett, coordinator of fire service programs at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, noted that the Stouffer's fire, coming less than two weeks after a blaze killed 85 guests and employees at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas, was one of several major fires that prompted federal fire safety legislation covering hotels and motels to be enacted in the 1980s. "It certainly has its place in fire history," Corbett said. "Unfortunately, improvements to fire and building codes at all levels usually come after tragedies." That continues to be a sore spot with Mignone and Dan Berry, hired to set up a fire prevention bureau in Harrison in the aftermath of the blaze. Mignone recalled that, a month before the fire, local fire chiefs had gone to the Town Board to push for updates to Harrison's 1929 fire code. "They had no idea what we were talking about, and they took no action on our recommendations until after the Stouffer's tragedy," he said. "There were sprinklers in a hallway at Stouffer's, but none in the conference rooms, because they weren't required. That's one reason the fire spread so quickly. ... After that a lot of communities around here started adopting fire codes." Likewise, Berry said, New York had done little to establish statewide fire safety standards, despite a number of pre-Stouffer's warnings. "Stouffer's wasn't the first bad fire we'd had," Berry said. "There was a fire at the Jewish Community Center in Yonkers (in 1965) that killed nine kids and three adults, and then in 1974 the Gulliver's fire (in a Port Chester nightclub) killed 24 people. But those fires didn't get the politicians excited. They didn't do anything until business executives from Arrow Electronics and Nestle died at Stouffer's." Although the need for fire sprinklers and other safety measures had been discussed for years, Berry said, "The Stouffer's fire is what finally made the fire service get up on its hind legs and start howling at both the local and state level. "I still feel that we should have gotten more done," Berry added. "I believe the state code should require sprinklers in every occupied building, period. A lot of local codes still don't require them, and the state law doesn't cover all occupied buildings." Nevertheless, said John Viniello of Patterson, president of the National Fire Sprinkler Association, the blaze brought results. "The Stouffer's fire resulted in significant legislation at the state and federal level and helped change the way the hotel and motel industry goes about fire protection," he said. "You can't build a hotel now without having it fully sprinklered, and most older hotels have gone back and installed sprinkler systems in their facilities. Stouffer's was one of the most horrific fires we've ever had, but if it's any consolation to the families of the victims, it did force changes that have saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of people in the 25 years since it happened."

Open cab, half-doors? Sounds like a Mack to me. So how can anyone blame Seagrave for breaking down and being the reason for this accident? I would think that the blame may lie within the person or persons responsible for the maintenance of the reserve fleet, no? Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery to the injured FF and his family.

One restraining technique that I can think of.... "The Tazer, the tazer, give him the tazer!!!" (Beavis, circa 1998)

How do you know what it meant? Perhaps it was Farting? Flowing? Fudging? Fowling? Fudge-making? FIREFIGHTING? Lighten up, it isn't the worst thing ever posted here.

I have the Garrity light on my N5A as well. I never noticed a weight difference. I do know that over time, I have had 2 crack under high heat conditions. I used to have some other light on my helmet that came with a mounting bracket, but my helmet felt like the Flintstone's car when they put the dinosaur rack of ribs on it. Price - can't beat it. In addition to the light on the helmet, I have a Survivor on the coat, a Vulcan light on a sling and another small one in my coat pocket. Of course, I am BLIND AS A BAT, so anything helps...

Wow - I thought they still had it. Thanks for the info.

Another dumb question... Are we expected to do anything different then what our most recent training tells us?

Make my firehouse look bad and I will personally run against you for Lieutenant AND kick your a**!!!

WOW! I think the kids in the back were loving it! Typical F***ing princess!!!