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Date: 11-29-06 Time: 10:03 Location: 13A Bethune Blvd. Frequency: Units Operating: Dept. 17 & Dept. 25 Description Of Incident: Working Fire on 2nd Floor 10:03 - Dept. 17 toned for unknown type fire at above loc. 10:10 - 17-Tower o/s, 17-6 est. command, command req. re-tone for working fire in 2nd floor bedroom 10:11 - 44-Control re-toning, 17-Tanker & Rescue also on loc. 10:15 - 44-Control Switching Ops to Freq. 3 and toning Dept. 25 for the stand-by at 17-100 Writer: 22 Truck

Not only that, this rig seems to get out the door VERY quickly.

Love the rack for the hard suction sleeves...not a fun operation for 2 guys when they are on top of the truck. 2000 pump I'm assuming? Tank/Foam?

I think the incident alert is a little confusing b/c it's all on top of each other. Maybe break it up per incident such as the latest topic section is done, or change colors?

It is an option...I too saw the truck today, and I've gotta say I'm mixed after sitting in it. Probably the most comfortable & functional cab I've been in (next to the '06 Quantum), but then you get out and have to look at the thing and it turns my stomach (especially w/ Pittsford's new Dash sitting next to it, knowing that you can't get that anymore ). For any dept.'s that think they might have an interest in buying a Pierce 10-man cab in the future, this would be the one. A rep. told me that this Spring Pierce will be introducing the split-cab option to the Velocity, making it the 10-man cab truck.

Metz does...100 ft. tower-ladder (and taller I believe) on a single axle, pump/tank, but minimal compartment space from what I've seen. Not sure on the quality or price of the Metz...res6cue, any insight on how the guys in Spring Valley like theirs? Tony, have you guys looked at Nantucket's new one?

Spencerport (Monroe Co., NY) firefighters were toned out for a report of smoke in the meeting room at their Station 1 on Lyell Ave. in the Village of Spencerport early Friday morning. The first firefighters on scene reported a working fire and managed to get the apparatus out. However, many sets of gear, tools, priceless memorabilia, and the building itself were deemed a total loss. Spencerport has two sub-stations that will likely house the Station 1 apparatus until a new building can be built. Pic's from Monroe County Fire Wire Wide Angle Pic from MCFW Ch. 13 News Article Spencerport Fire Dept. Link

Couldn't agree more Izzy....First of all let me say that counties can either have or not have 10-codes based on who's in charge (Dumont dispatch, if I'm not mistaken is run by their own PD). In my county, fire does not use 10-codes but EMS does on a regular basis (just how we run). But in NO WAY would someone be suspended for use of a 10-code, regardless of a slip-up (we've done it). This was as you say Izzy, a "foot in the door". Second, am I to understand that the entire Dumont Company 1 is dispanded for the actions of one? Capt. Levitzki may have acted inappropriately by use of 10-codes (which I think is BS), and he may have misappropriated funds, but now they want to disband the 18 member company??? Are you kidding me? These guys are volunteers who train hard, and they are going to say thanks for the work, but cya? Third, I came across the Dumont FD even before this incident occured. I must say in following them that the rest of the dept. (Co.'s 2, 3 and Indep.) had something to lose as Co. 1 was hard at work. They remodeled their station, bought a used (1990) Pierce Engine from a LI FD to serve as Engine 1, spec'ed a brand new 2004 Seagrave Squad Engine as Squad 1....and trained seriously hard to actually be a Squad Company. Maybe they did model themselves after a FDNY Squad, but are we (or their chiefs) to fault them for giving that effort and trying to provide thier community with that top notch quality and skills? We should all be so lucky to have that dedication. Check out Dumont FD Website and review the archives to see. You'll see that the once Engine Co. 1 now "Squad Co. 1" trained very hard to get their status to serve their citizens better. Fourth, since they went ahead and did all of this, it's no wonder why the rest of the dept. had a hard-on for them if they had all of the sudden become the strongest. They were very proactive as their website shows; maybe they gained so much power off of this that their chief(s) didn't like it? I commend Squad/Engine 1 for their years of hard work/planning to serve their community better! Fifth, to have the chief of dept. allow the disband of the co. is a clear sign that there is a grudge w/in the dept. (since he is from another company). Maybe Squad/Engine 1 gained a lot of power b/c they trained so hard and became the best in the dept. off of their years of hard work? Is anyone to fault that? You simply don't tell an entire company, when it's 1/4th of your dept., to forget about their company w/out a serious threatening (of power?). Very shady to me. Irregardless, I've come to care little about who is in charge of my fire dept., so long as they are as proactive in training and fighting fires as this Co. 1 has shown.

Date: 6-6-06 Time: 22:30 Location: New York State Thruway MM 371 Frequency: Ops moved to 155.175 Units Operating: Henrietta Fire, EMS/ALS, Leroy Fire, Mercy Flight, NYSP Description Of Incident: Henrietta Quint 640, Midi 646, Engine 652, Engine 612, Rescue 628 dispatched for MVA on the thruway with a trooper struck. Further updates report a tractor with multiple trailers rolled over, driver trapped, and the trooper trapped in his car. 6C-10 (Henrietta Chief of Dept.) responding requests Leroy Fire for 1 pumper and 1 rescue to respond as well as Mercy Flight on stand-by. 6M-10 (Henrietta EMS Chief) on location reporting multiple tractor-trailers rolled over and multiple people trapped with the trooper trapped in his car. Henrietta firefighters working to extricate both the drivers and the trooper. 6M-10 requesting Mercy Flight to the scene. As of 23:05, driver of one tractor and the trooper have been extricated, driver of the 2nd tractor possibly still trapped. Command requests Gates Quint 4510 to fill-in at Henrietta HQ Station 4. Writer: 22 Truck

Date: 5/5/2006 Time: 1:43am (Working Fire Dispatch) Location: 80 Hemion Rd., Suffern Middle School Frequency: Units Operating: Dept. 20 (Tallman), Dept. 19 (Suffern) Description Of Incident: Originally dispatched for an automatic alarm at Suffern Middle School 20-2 on the scene establishing command, 44-Control advises PD reports smoke from a construction trailer 20-Command reports the same, working fire in a construction trailer attached to Suffern Middle School, requests Dept. 19's FAST to the scene - 20-2000, 20-1501, 19-1250, 19-EQ all in service Writer: 22 Truck

Did a ride-a-long with a PGFD dept. (don't worry, not Kentland) while I was down there 2 weeks ago and they let me in on an interesting way....property rent. Apparently they own an entire block surrounding their fire station in which a post office and many other municipal buildings are located paying them a yearly fee. Interesting investment, real estate. They have a huge ambulance billing income (already mentioned) in which they bought a $200,000 ambulance several weeks ago solely on those funds. They also used to have banquet hall which brought in a lot of cash, but many of the people for that area that used it would destroy it so they ended it. I guess many other MD dept.'s do have banquet halls they rent out. They also do Bingo 3 nights a week, in which they hire someone to host the tournament in their building, taking in the profits.

Try this one guys, Fire Prep Gives books, tests, who's offering a test.....

The Brighton, NY Fire Dept. (borders the City of Rochester) has announced that it will begin accepting applications and soliciting info. for a new to the dept., and new to the area, bunker program focused on college students matriculating at one of the Rochester area colleges. Current and future college students are encouraged to contact Co. 2 Captain Hiller by email to gain more info. on the program. (link below) The dept. has acquired a home located adjacent to their Station 1 in which they will renovate, allowing four members to live in. They plan to start the program in the Fall of 2006 semester. The "live-ins" will be able to respond on Station 1 apparatus to all calls in the district (last yr. BFD did about 2,700 runs). The preliminary requirement is going to be 25 hrs of dedicated time a week to responding to calls in order to live at the residence. If there is a lot of interest (which there has been), the dept. is considering expansion to a larger scale. Anyone attending college or considering attending college in the Rochester area and have FF 1 and EMT or just FF 1 are highly encouraged to seek additional info. on this great opportunity. Brighton FD Bunker Program I joined the BFD as a mutual aid FF while I was in college in BFD's district, which sparked the interest to start this program (and have had a great time there). Anyone seeking info. on BFD or other general questions, feel free to PM me.

Date: 2-27-06 Time: 22:20 Location: 52 Birr St. X Lake Ave./Burke Terrace Frequency: Units Operating: Multiple City Co.'s, Several County Co.'s pulled to Fill Description Of Incident: Dispatch & Audio from mcfw.com Quint & Midi 2, Engine 10, Quint & Midi 6, Battalion 2, Rescue 11 dispatched to the area of Lake Ave./Birr St. for the basement fire. Deputy Chief, The Protectives, Engine 5, and C99 added to the assignment from multiple calls reporting a basement fire. Quint 2 arrived first reporting an apartment fire. Battalion 2 transmitted a working fire in a 2 story garden-style apartment building at 52 Birr St. req'd a 2nd alarm. Co.'s were later ordered off the roof. 2nd alarm co.'s - Engine 3 & Engine 16 3rd alarm co.'s - Quint & Midi 1, Quint & Midi 8 Numerous city co.'s moved up...Lakshore & North Greece FD's filled-in at Quint & Midi 1, Gates FD filled-in at Quint & Midi 5, Brighton FD filled-in at Quint & Midi 4. Writer: 22 Truck

This applys to the original post as well... The Watch Desk All are familiar with The Watch Desk?....well here's what the boys from PG had to say on the matter in the forum there. It gets interesting....must say, the watch desk is a bit more brutal than emtbravo.

thank God somebody said it.....

Date: 2-21-06 Time: 07:25 Location: 151 N. Pascack Rd. Frequency: Units Operating: Spring Valley (Dept. 17), Nanuet (Dept. 8), Hillcrest (Dept. 6), South Spring Valley (Dept. 25), New City (Dept. 9) Description Of Incident: 07:25 - Dept. 17 toned out for smoke in the residence. 07:31 - 17-3 on-scene reporting a working fire. Requests a FAST from Dept. 8, Ladder from Dept. 6, and a pumper w/ manpower from Dept. 25. 44-Control advises 17-3 that the PD reports people may be trapped on the first floor. 07:58 - 17-Command requests a pumper and manpower from Dept. 9 to the scene. Writer: 22 Truck

I personally don't think any of us can answer the question "which is better". There is A LOT of truth to the stament that "it depends on your needs". I don't see how the non-walk-in is better on highways, but that's just me. You need to ask yourself what does yoru rescue do for you? Does it go to wrecks and fires, one or the other, or a lot else? A lot of us are buying a combi-rescue/pumper to roll as one unit during the day time when member numbers are down...that way we can ensure that water and a tool on the road in the same, first-out truck (maybe only-out truck) to a wreck. In this case a non-walk-in is predominant b/c it provides more space for a pump/tank/and tools (tho i have seen walk-ins w/ a pump and tank). Another consideration is a a command post. Honestly, do you need it in a rescue truck? Chief's cars are being stacked nowadays with command post products prompting chief officers not to leave the rear-end of their vehicles (rightfully so). Ya sure, the warmth in the winter time is nice, but in all the fires I've been to with a walk-in rescue on scene, NO ONE has used the interior command post (unversitile and unvisual to the scene). One benefit I have seen to the walk-in is dept.'s that are spec'ing a walk-in for air-bottle filling purposes. Keeps the "filler" warm during the winter (nice for those of you guys and I commend you. Bottom line, walk-ins are nice to carry A LOT of guys but how many do we have to carry nowadays? 95% of the time, a rescue is going to be third, fourth, or fifth out of the hall (depending on your run cards) to a worker. Why not make the room available for more equip. on a truck? Still can make the cab available to 10 firefighters, and have an arsenal of gear right behind them. If it's due to a wreck, don't you want some water, just in-case, chief??? More space for a pump and tank on a non-walk-in. If you run an engine first out on wrecks, problem solved. A lot of us upstate run an engine-rescue (comparable to Maryland) with pump/tank/rescue tool (problem solved with one truck). With today's diminishing number of volley's it's a great solution. If you haven't guessed, I'm in favor of the walk-around. Lots more space for the valuable equip. and that's what a rescue truck is all about, a BIG tool-box. A rescue near-by me (Pittsford FD) has a combi-walk around/walk-in which I found interesting. The only access to the walk-in is thru the cab w/ a command center and few seats w/air-packs (interesting concept...on a '95 Simon-Duplex/Saulsbury frame). I just see the walk-in as wasted space when you can provide adequate staffing on a truck in the cab, not the box. Chiefs cars are handling command centers, and 10-man cabs handle the manpower situation. Again, your dept.'s needs trump all......

Date: 2-17-06 Time: 16:54 Location: 201 Lincoln St. X Lansing St./Clifford Ave. Frequency: Units Operating: City of Rochester FD, Brighton FD Description Of Incident: Engine 16, Engine 17, Quint & Midi 7, Battalion 1, Rescue 11 dispatched for a reported garage fire at the above address. Multiple calls reporting the structure fire brought Quint & Midi 9, the Deputy Chief, the Protectives, and C99. C99 was on location first reporting a large barn fire with and exposure problem. The Deputy Chief requested a 2nd alarm (due to the high winds the area was experiencing) bringing Quint & Midi's 8 and 9 (Quint & Midi 6 marked up from a previous call a few blocks away). Brighton Engine 304 and Quint 300 were requested to fill-in at Quint 4's quarters as companies were moved around the city and 300 was providing the only rescue tool on the East side of the city. The fire was placed under control at 17:35. Dispatch and Radio Traffic of the Incident Pic's both courtesy of mcfw.com Rnews Story Writer: 22 Truck

Date: 2-17-06 Time: Location: Empire Blvd. @ the Irondequoit/Webster townline Frequency: Units Operating: Laurelton FD, West Webster FD, Irondequoit Vol. Amb., City of Rochester FD Description Of Incident: Laurelton and West Webster FD's toned out for a MVAPT, unsure of whose district it was in. Laurelton Rescue 168 arrived first reporting a tree down on top of a car with a possible 980 in the car. 1C-16 arrived and established command as it was in Laurelton's district, and 1C-12 continued the West Webster assignment to assist. One female was 980 in the car. The city's Engine 16 filled-in for Laurelton as multiple jobs were being sent out...the Rochester area suffered very high wind damage during the morning commute Friday morning keeping all dept.'s very busy. Dispatch and Radio Traffic of the Incident courtesy of mcfw.com Writer: 22 Truck

My dept. requires it at all working fires. The gas meter is sent in, in various increments to detect and see if we can take our packs off. Usually, it's not until about a half hr to an hr that we are allowed to go off air during overhaul. We operate in "20-minute marks", which gives the incident command a time frame. He will be advised of his first 20 minute mark (20 minutes after dispatch of the call), 2nd 20 minute mark (40 minutes after dispatch) and so on....this way when he has a plan set in place he knows what was accomplished by the mark he wanted it done by, more of a checks and balances type of deal. But the gas meter is sent in on the same routine and checked frequently, so not to prematurely doff air-packs and breath harmful agents.

Date: 2-8-06 Time: 16:27 Location: Rte. 17 - 1/4 mi. North of Seven Lakes Dr. Frequency: Units Operating: Dept. 15, Stat Flight Description Of Incident: MVA w/ Pin, 15-Command requesting Stat Flight Writer: 22 Truck

Date: 2-6-06 Time: 04:57 Location: Route 390 at Exit 9 Frequency: Units Operating: East Avon FD, Avon Amb., Geneseo Amb, Livonia Amb., Henrietta ALS Description Of Incident: Male hit by tractor trailer while walking down 390. Writer: 22 Truck 0457: EAFD, Avon Amb/ALS dispatched to Route 390 at Exit 9 for the MVA with reported people trapped involving a semi, possible ejection. Arrived to find a male, identified as a RIT professor, went into the median of 390 due to poor weather conditions, got out to walk to the near exit for help, and was struck by a 18-wheeler. Mercy Flight was requested but unable to fly due to weather conditions. He was transported to Strong Memorial where he was pronounced dead. News Channel 13 Story

Date: 1/28 - 1/29/06 Time: 20:42 Location: 42 Oakdale Dr. X Warrington Dr./Chadbourne Rd. Frequency: Units Operating: Brighton, Pittsford, Henrietta, Fairport, East Rochester, Penfield FD's Description Of Incident: Heavy fire on 2nd & 3rd floors of a 2 1/2 Writer: 22 Truck 20:42 - Brighton Engine 302, Engine 304, Quint 300, Squad 307, and Rescue 308 toned out for a report of smoke coming from the home on Oakdale near Warrington. 302 arrived first reporting heavy smoke showing from the 2nd floor. 3C-90 arrived and assumed initial command; 3C-10 requested a FASTeam out of Pittsford to the scene and Brighton Engine 303 to the scene from Station 3. Crews encountered heavy fire conditions in the rear of the home on the second and third floors with extension to the first floor. 3C-10 arrived and assumed command; 3C-40 was operations and 3C-30 handled the interior sector with 3C-80 on the first floor, 3C-120 on the second, and 3C-70 in the attic. Multiple other mutual aid chiefs and junior officers handled areas of the home during rotations Fill-ins were requested - Fairport Engine 3414 to Brighton Station 1, Henrietta Engine 652 & Quint 640 to Station 2, and Penfield Engine 374 to Station 3. Pittsford put East Rochester on stand-by in thier own hall as many area firefighters were out of town attending Mendon FD's annual banquet. Soon after the Henrietta and Fairport assignments were pulled to scene for additional manpower and ER was pulled to fill-in at Station 1. Brighton Volunteer Ambulance (BVA) was also pulled to the scene. The stubborn fire was fought for several hours finally being placed in service around 0100 hrs. 2 firefighters suffered injuries. Monroe County Fire Wire's Headline MCFW's Pic's (courtesy of Brighton FF and Q300 operator Scott Ellman) R News' Story

Date: 1-16-05 Time: 21:13 Location: Hudson Ave./Mark St. Frequency: 154.130 Units Operating: Engine 16, Engine 17, Quint & Midi 6, Rescue 11, The Protectives, Battalion 1, Quint & Midi 7, Deputy Chief, C 91, C99, Engine 10, Quint & Midi 4 Description Of Incident: Heavy Fire on the top floors of a 2 1/2. Writer: 22 Truck E16, E17, Q/M 6, R11, B1 toned out for a building fire at the above address. 16's on location with heavy smoke from the top of a 2 1/2; have their own plug. Multiple additional units pulled. Dispatch & Ops. of the call Pic's