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City of Newburgh's new pumper courtesy of Campbell Supply's Facebook

www.facebook.com/campbellsupply

Newburgh is very generous with mutual aid responses, depending on commitment times they will call back overtime. As much as they use it they understand it is a two way street. IMO it seems over the last few years Newburgh has begun providing more mutual aid then they receive.

Mark,

While I don't know the breakdown the county hours are not divided equally, why would Greene County the same hour allotment as Westchester? At the last Orange Co FFI graduation the Dep Coordinator of Fire Training stated Orange County is #2 in NYS with OFPC hours, behind only Erie County. With that being said Orange County also separately funds their own County Fire Instructors. This greatly reduces the dependence on NYS hours for classes.

ie. If a class needs a 2nd and 3rd instructor for 10 hours of hands on in a county like Ulster you use up 30 OFPC hours, Orange can use 10 OFPC and 20 county hours if they'd like. This increases the amount of classes they can host.

Pat is a great guy who would go great lengths to help a brother in need.

A little more on him:

Full Time Montrose VA FD

Vol FF @ Vails Gate FD

Asst Chief of Orange County Haz-Mat Team

Facilitator at Orange County FTC

Former Huntington, Stewart ANG, & Walden FF

His wife is also a member of the New Windsor Ambulance corps. They have 3 small children at home with the youngest less than 2 years old. As soon as other donation channels are confirmed I will share those as well.

City of Albany posted as well.

Watertown & Mount Vernon posted as well.

It was a 2013 Stock Unit, purchased this past summer.

An article on www.midhudsonnews.com had reports of VP Biden staying at the Emerson Lodge in Ulster County. I know in most EMS cases a pre-arranged transport can be accepted if the patient begins or ends in your CON area.

With all these numbers being thrown around I decided to use the Comptrollers website, Open Book NY, to see what the actual financial condition of the district has been since the first referendum in 1999.

*Note*

I've never even been to Yorktown, but have done a lot of studying on wasteful spending with poor service by fire districts here in OC.

FY 2000

Total Budget - $703,929

Tax Levy - $652,800

Total Expenditures - $898,598

"Capital Reserve" - $366,176

FY 2013

Total Budget - $1,136,291

Tax Levy - $1,128,616

"Capital Reserve" - $2,718,233

"Reserve for Repairs" - $265,464

Total Change 2000 - In this time it appears there were 5 large apparatus purchases.

Tax Levy - $+475,816 (72.88%)

Expenditures (will be off as they bought an engine in 2000) $-176,653 (-19.65%)

"Capital Reserve" - $+2,352,057 (642.32%)

New Windsor. And I completely agree with your point, but honestly, alot of people right now only care about using the cheapest option, until they need an ambulance, and then they get upset.

When volunteers dont get out, it taxes the commercial services that have to cover. Commercial services put on a certain amount of units to cover a projected call volume. When they are constantly running calls in areas that are supposed to have their own units, other areas suffer. Most times commercials staff ALS units. Now the medic is tied up doing routine calls that could have been handled by the VAC. I would gladly take the bill for myself or my family, from any commercial service that is going to respond in a timely manner and have an ALS provider onboard when one is needed. Just makes sense. How many times have you seen a VAC get dispatched for the person with a foot injury type call and no crew? Then 15 minutes later the pin job comes in and every member is suddenly available. Dont get me wrong. I have no problem with VAC's that provide good service. Just the ones that dont and then complain when the town replaces them. New Windsor is a good example of a successful VAC. They have come a long way over the years and have a very dedicated volunteer base. Hats off to them.

Not trying to take anything away from the true volunteers in New Windsor, but to call them a VAC is far from the truth. When they reopened they required significant career staffing during various hours, and still do. While they are now an ALS agency it only relies more on career staffing to supplement the volunteers.

It brings back that old question, when do we have to change our name to drop the false adjective?

Date: 3/6/14
Time: 2300hrs?

Incident Type: Working Fire
Location: 1 Walker St., Walden

District: Walden Fire District
Units on Scene:

Walden E-236, E-238, T-240, & R-246
Montgomery T-221

Wallkill E-64-11

Coldenham T-205 (FAST), & R-208 (Cascade)

Maybrook Engine

Pine Bush T-234

Orange County Fire Services 36-1, 6, 12, 109

Town of Montgomery VAC 2 BLS Rigs

Mobile Life ALS Rig & SORT 1

Re-locations:

Cronomer Valley T-301 & Bullville E-252 --> Walden St. 1
Walker Valley E-63-15 --> Walden St. 2

Description: 3 sty 40x100 ordinary brick construction, fire self vented from 2nd floor #2 & #4 sides on arrival of first chief, auto-exposed to 3rd floor by the arrival of the first engine. Most fire and damage held to in line apartments on 2nd & 3rd floors.

City of Newburgh has a Spartan ERV pumper on order.

Date: 2/23/14
Time: 14:29

Incident Type: Working Fire, 2 Sty Colonial Style Single Family
Location: 476 Scotchtown Ave

District: Campbell Hall
Units On-Scene:

Campbell Hall FD

Maybrook E-210 & Ta-211

Goshen E-931, E-932, & Ta-936

Florida Ta-610

Washingtonville R-581 (FAST) & Ta-577

Mechanicstown E-122

Salisbury Mills Ta-557

Coldenham Ta-203

Montgomery T-221 & R-222

Vails Gate R-480 (FAST)

Orange County 36-12, 36-106, & 36-109

Goshen Ambulance

Units Relocated:

Silver Lake E-158 --> Campbell Hall

New Hampton E-722 --> Goshen

Walden E-238 --> Maybrook

Bullville E-252 --> Montgomery

Description:

14:29 Campbell Hall FD Dispatched, reported Chimney Fire

14:30 Washingtonville Engine Dispatched, stand-by in own quarters

14:31 36-12 Dispatched, Mutual Aid/Automatic Response in progress

14:31 Campbell Hall R-902 Responding

14:41 Goshen Tanker Disptched, to scene

14:41 36-1 Dispatched, Inter-Battalion Mutual Aid

14:46 Maybrook Engine Dispatched, stand-by in CH FH

14:52 Maybrook Tanker Dispatched, to scene

14:53: Florida Tanker Dispatcher, to scene (2nd Goshen Tanker OOS)

14:53 Goshen Engine Dispatched, to fill site

14:53 Coldenham Pumper/Tanker Dispatched, stand-by in Maybrook FH

14:57 36-12 Arrived, reports working fire

14:58 CMD req EMS to scene

15:00 Maybrook E-210 enroute, dispatched to EMS call on Rt 207

15:01 Coldenham Tanker redirected, stand-by in CH FH

15:03 Mechanicstown Tanker Dispatched, to scene

15:03 Washingtonville FAST Dispatched, to scene

15:04 Walden Engine Dispatcher, stand-by in Maybrook FH

15:06 Salisbury Mills & Washingtonville Tankers Dispatched, to scene

15:10 36-12 req all tankers to use UHF Water Supply channel, Goshen engine going to second fill site

15:13 New Hampton Engine Dispatched, stand-by in Goshen FH

15:24 Coldenham Tanker Redirected, to scene, next available to backfill

15:26 Silver Lake Engine Dispatched, to stand-by CH FH

15:26 Montgomery Cascade Dispatched, to scene

15:31 Fire Investigators 36-106 & 109 Dispatched, to scene

15:35 Montgomery Truck Dispatched, to scene

15:35 Vails Gate FAST Dispatched, to scene

16:06 CMD reports fire knocked down, overhaul in progress

**Photo credit: Mark Rosen, Maybrook FD

MLSS is a vary well names company but also maybe you shold look into the debt they are in that noone knows about. The owner of the company has been trying to sell for a few years now but the wants you to buy the company and take the debt with it and they do not own most of there stuff. Why do they keep nice new vehicles because they do not own any of them they lease the and get new to look good. all there stations leased MLSS HQ well they don't own that.

More uninformed hatred. A quick search of public tax records deeds MLSS HQ, Newburgh, Middletown, and Kingston stations to either Mobile Life Support Services or a LLC with the same Newburgh PO box as MLSS. A common practice among medium-large businesses. As for vehicle leasing, who knows if they own or lease, another common practice among successful medium-large businesses. Maybe that's their trick, they incorporate traditional business practices into their plans as opposed to the traditional public safety methods of spend spend spend.

Anyone have a clue where the on duty medic was during this? I assume he was on scene of the seizure call awaiting the ambulance. For those that don't know Ellenville First Aid is an ALS combination agency with a staffed medic fly car 24/7. I'm not sure if they staff a driver when there is no pre-arranged volunteer crew, but I hear them go up to a third dispatch for the ambulance quite often. Given their remote location to any staffed back up, and the close proximity to Ellenville Hospital they primarily use Kerhonkson/Accord First Aid for transporting backup, and as one article stated, tone out the FD for any driver.

In my opinion, if your going to entertain a non-member firefighter driving your ambulance because he drives fire trucks, then why wouldn't you entertain a member with plenty of ambulance driving experience? The captain stating that the commercial ambulance doesn't transport patients in an emergency situation is 100% false (I bet they were also the ones who transported the baby to Albany Medical Center after Ellenville Hospital couldn't handle the patient). And his claim they only use converted vans is a bit off, the agency this kid works for has more Type III ambulances than his own.

Date: 12/23/13
Time: 09:00 hrs

Incident Type: 2nd Alarm Fire
Location: 104 Coleman Rd.

District: Walden Fire District
Units:

1st Alarm: Walden E-237, T-240, Ta-239, Wallkill (Ulster) E-64-11

2nd Alarm: Coldenham FAST, Maybrook E-210, EMS, OC FI, & Central Hudson

Tanker Task Force: Coldenham Ta-202, Maybrook Ta-211, Wallkill Ta-64-12, & Montgomery E-223

Description: Working fire in a 1 story ranch style SFD.

Dispatched as smoke coming from the roof of a home, caller sees no fire. Car 3 arrived with heavy smoke condition pushing from the eves, transmits 2nd alarm & requests tanker task force (no hydrants). E-237 arrived stretched 1 3/4" line to basement entrance where flames were visible through window. A second line was stretched by the tanker crew through the front door and fire in the kitchen area was knocked down. Truck crew threw a few ladders and performed primary searches, all negative. Mutual aid arrived and was used for secondary searches and overhaul. Due to the fire being knocked down quickly, the tankers began returning shortly after arrival.

Didn't Mt. Hope FPD just form a few years ago?

No, the Mount Hope FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT was formed many many decades ago. Since its inception it had always contracted with the Village of Otisville, this past spring it contracted with the newly formed Mount Hope FIRE COMPANY.

The Mount Hope TOWN BOARD is dissolving the FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, in favor of a separate FIRE DISTRICT. The FIRE COMPANY will remain.

EMT111 you could not be more wrong. Orange County has one of, if not the worst, emergency radio systems in the Hudson Valley. As for the portables, not all departments "portable 1" is their base station. Some use it as it is supposed to be, and their line officers use portable numbers. Departments who are not authorized to transmit with base stations in county channels use the portable designation, maybe they think the FCC isn't smart enough to figure it out.

The Orange Lake Fire District published a Pierce spec, and the previous KME tanker was published as a Spartan/US Tanker.

Walden's last spec/purchase was a Spartan/Rescue 1

Middletown's last spec/purchase was a Seagrave.

Not sure about Warwick's most recent engine purchase, but the Raymond's published a Spartan/4 Guys, and got a Spartan/KME.

Pine Island I don't know much about. But it seems none of those departments you listed are trying to push towards a KME fleet.

Date: 11/4/13
Time: 12:00

Incident Type: Working Fire
Location: YMCA Camp Robbins, 131 North Dr.

District: Walden
1st Alarm Units: Walden E-236, E237, Ta-239, & T-240, Wallkill (Ulster) E-64-11

2nd Alarm Units: 36-12, Coldenham FAST (T-205), Mobile Life, TOMAC, Central Hudson, & OC FI

Tanker Task Force: Air National Guard Ta-369, Plattekill (Ulster) Ta-47-30, Wallkill (Ulster) Ta-64-12, Maybrook Ta-211, Montgomery E-223

Relocations: Orange Lake E-327 & Pine Bush Ta-230 --> Walden Sta. 1

Description: Heavy fire in a 40x40 1sty wood frame. Delayed notification, Car 3 transmitted 2nd Alarm & Tanker Task force from 3 miles out due to visible header. Arrived to find building fully involved with roof collapsed. Building was located about 1000' feet up a single lane dirt driveway, only accessible by driving through a bungalow colony with very tight single lane shoulderless roads.

It is a combination of full time NYS employees and guardsmen in the the NY Air National Guard 105th Airlift Wing. All equipment is owned by the ANG/Air Force. I believe military service and fire academy are required for full time employment.

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2013/October/29/DelQuaglio_death-29Oct13.htm

I believe it was sold to Empire State Ambulance, which began changing the name to HVPS, but certain areas continued operating as Regional EMS.

The academy's in Utica, Montor Falls, Westchester, and FDNY all exceed the minimum standard as required by law. Westchester adds Hazmat Tech and Tech Rescue plus some other material, because the Westchester Career Chiefs want it done then and not later. I do not know if this still is part of it, but at one time montour adds some evening course work, making the days longer.

When I completed the academy in Montour Falls 3 years ago, they were running 15 hour days (6a - 9p). Everyone was required to bunk in during the week, even the guy who lived 15 minutes away.