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Call it a silly question, but I've never noticed crosslays on any FDNY engine (and unless their in the small compartment near the pass. side pump panel there's no room for them). If not why.. there has to be some important reason that we all aren't thinking of. Also, does FDNY run anything preconnected off the rear? Call me a newbie (or an anti-buff) but I've never really took the time to look at an FDNY engine too close, a couple of the guys up here at work were wondering/arguing and I just figured we may all need some enlightenment. Rich FF/EMT-P

Oh yeah.. looking @ the c3 Sq. 61 right now as a matter of fact.. wondering about the current hoseloads on the squads though... 3 1/2 in hose? never heard of it... Oh well... I'll go back to my upstate LDH state of mind I think it's so interesting to hear the ideology behind firefighting in the city... It's like a totally different world down there. Think about it though... about the only FD above the city (that I can recollect) that doesn't have preconnects is Mount Vernon (on the new engines at least)... aside from that just about every dept. has @ least 2 crosslays and 1 preconnect off of the back... interesting reasons why they do (n't do) it. The idea is great though, I mean, If you take away the preconnects it leaves no margin for error. The apparatus placement O/S is taken care of automatically secondary to water supply (IF the 1st due is forced to reverse lay), and the worst that can happen with the 1 3/4 or 2 1/2 line is you just add to the line prior to charging... thus taking the guess work out of advancing preconnects at structural fires. So, since we're all on our soapboxes, do you guys (if first O/S) tend to hit a hydrant or wait for the 2nd due? If not waiting do you lay a length of supply-> an appliance (water thief/gated wye/manifold) ->handline or something else for a taxpayer or multi-story residential? I would love someday to see some sort of SOGs/SOPs just for shits and giggles... is that info in that super buff "operational reference guide" that was put out a few years ago? May be getting over my head here... but just wondering (eh... this should certainly be enough to start the week off) Rich

Thanks for the input guys.. I appreciate it... definately ends a heated debate we all have been having "upstate" here. Hey HM1/288... the squads have basically the same setup as the engines right?

Someone send a picture to code 3 collectables to make that truck! They even have a mold for it! Rich 1946/2000

Then SCREW EM'!!! Just get a white shield or somethin' It's your helmet and if you like it black keep it black (unless it's a strict dept. policy)... besides it shows you never forgot your roots and lead by example (use that as your excuse)! As a jake I would have more respect for the LT/Capt/Chief that kept his black helmet and just changed the shield than I would one with a shiny new white one... for christ's sake you dirtied it over the years... could you imagine how long it would take you to turn that white helmet black again!?! Rich FF/EMT-P

HAHAHAHA.. Ya know... I must say I found it interesting that my volunteer dept. (PVFD) was called as a FAST team to EFFD just a month ago and did the same thing... literally Oh well.. same idea.. if the closest FAST/RIT is OOS or put to work you bring the closest (or in our case the first recollected... no offense to Steve) to your scene. Good stuff though... I must say it's nice to see that more Depts. in the Hudson Valley are taking the reigns as far as FAST/RIT with proper training/equipment/etc.... kinda gives you more faith in the service, regardless of whether you're paid or volunteer. Rich FF/EMT-P

If I'm not mistaken didn't Montrose and Castle Point just spec out Spartan/ Ferrara Class As?

Yeah... the XL my buddy gave me is like a XXXXL... it's like maternity wear! NUTS! See ya on the 30th! Rich FF/EMT-P