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Date: 12-12-05 Time: 1628hrs (time of 2nd alarm) Location: 3629 Main St. c/s Northern Blvd. - Box 4452 Frequency: Units Operating: Description Of Incident: Fire in the cockloft of a 2-story commercial Writer: BFD1054 1628hrs-2nd alarm for fire in the cockloft of a 2-story 25'x100' brick occupied commercial. 1640hrs-2 lines stretched/operating, primary searches underway, fire is doubtful. 1651hrs-Probably will hold, secondary searches underway. 1717hrs-Secondary searches completed and (-), fire placed u/c.

Thanks Seth. I too would be interested in getting one of these for my department. When i tried to get pricing info, it sent me to an e-mail address, so i didn't bother. I can't see them being all that expensive and it would be worth it becuase you would get great training out of it!

Found this in this months Firehouse magazine.... http://www.mobilefireunits.com/index.htm

Congrats & best of luck to all of the newly elected Croton FD officers! Best wishes to those in their 1st term, as well as those who can't get enough lol! Special congrats to John Munson (outgoing 119-1) for the excellent job he has done in his numerous years as an officer. I'm sure Jimmy Ferg will do a hell of a job as Captain, as he has done so well as a Lt! Also, congrats to Chris Colombo as he comes through the ranks again lol and of course to Art Roosa III on his new posistion! Its good to see alot of the same names in the ranks of the CFD. It shows that these people know what they're doing and that their peers have full confidence in them!

Date: 12-11-05 Time: 1524hrs Location: 23 N. Madison Ave. c/s Church St. Frequency: 46.18 Units Operating: Spring Valley FD (Dept. 17) 17-1, 17-2, 17-4, Hillcrest (aerial), South Spring Valley (FASTeam) Description Of Incident: Working Fire in dwelling. Writer: BFD1054 1526hrs-17-2 on the scene, establishing command. 1530hrs-17-1 on the scene, advising signal-12 (working fire). As per 44-Control, all Dept. 17 companies operating, switch to frequency-3. 1532hrs-44-Control dispatching Hillcrest (Dept. 6) for an aerial unit and South Spring Valley (Dept. 25) for their FASTeam. 1535hrs-Hillcrest 6-8 advising that 6-75 is in service. 1630hrs-All Hillcrest (Dept. 6) units back in service, returning.

Date: 12-08-05 Time: 1735hrs Location: Rt. 117 & Beech Hill Rd. Frequency: 46.26 Units Operating: PHFD E189, Sleepy Hollow VAC, others Description Of Incident: MVA w/extrication Writer: BFD1054

Chief...I couldn'd have said it better myself, amen brother! Just because most vollies do not have the same amount of training as career ff's, doesn't mean we can't train together! Thats all the more reason to train! Its attitude like that that keeps us from bettering ourselves. If you feel that vollies and career guys shouldn't waste their time training together because they don't have the same training level, then shame on you. BrotherFF, don't get me wrong, you make alot of valid point, as usual. However, vollies could learn alot from career guys, therefore training together is a + in my book. And if there are career guys that are soo worried about fire protection in their hometowns, why not do something about it (whether it be volunteer themselves, ofter to help them train or lobby for career staffing)? Again, BrotherFF, don't take my post personally, just adding my 2 cents. As i said, you have alot of valid and useful information that you bring to this board. On a personal note, i have trained several times with career guys/depts. My dept. has trained with Peekskill (combo), Mohegan (combo) and the Montrose VAFD (fully career). I would love to train with them on a more regular basis as well. I have always encountered good things when the two "sides" get together to reach the same goal - training! Are there issues with the differences in training levels for career vs. vollie - hell yes, we know that! Instead of bickering, i just wish the NYS fire service could be more unified for both "sides." I would love to be able to have the same training background as a career firefighter, hands down! This goes for everyone - train as much and as hard as you can because your life DOES depend on it! When in a training session, keep your ears & eyes open, listen to what experienced people have to say and learn from them! Most importantly , stay safe!

tjd1012.... You may want to try Westchester Collectibles, located in Valhalla. They carried the Code-3 replica of West Haverstraw (Rockland Co., NY) which a Sutphen pumper. The pumper is done in an all metallic-blue paint, which is real unique. I went on their website but couldn't find it, but i was there not to long ago and i believe he still had some. It would definately be worth giving them a call and asking if they still have them in stock. I have this replica and its a real cool rig, i think your son would love it! Heres their website (with phone number) - http://www.westchestercollectibles.com/sto...stomer/home.php Here a link to fdnytrucks.com that has a picture of West Haverstraw's blue Sutphen pumper. Take a look and see what you think! http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/other...0Haverstraw.htm Good luck to you, i hope your son's x-mas wish comes true!

NRFD...As stated, gear is very expensive, so you may want to do a lot of research and shop around! If you are a member of a Dept. (career or vol.), then your department should supply gear for you. AAA in North White Plains is a great place for anything fire-service related that you may need. The guys there are great, they're real helpful, they have everything and the prices are great. But again, they deal with Globe, which is good gear, but as Truckie Buff stated, it depends on what you need/like. If you're into Morning Pride, i would suggest trying Trilex in Passaic, NJ. They're not all that far away and alot of City departments deal with them. They sell Morning Pride gear and they always have a ton of it in stock. When i went for mine, the guy sized me up, went to the storage area and came out with perfect-fitting gear! They kept it so they would sew my name/dept. on the back, as well as add some other features i wanter. I had the gear on my door step 2 days later! They also do cleaning and all sorts of alterations/repairs on site. I believe the entire set of gear (coat & pants) ran me about $1,200. Heres their info: http://www.trilexcleanfiregear.com/

Remember585...And thats why i love your posts bro! You hit the nail on the head and added a little comedy to it lol! I totally agree, i didn't respond to this post based on the fact that its gonna get nasty soon!

Ohhh will you guys stop with this crap? Alsfirefighters' head is gonna get too big! Just kiddin around bro, you know how much i respect you! Not only has alsfirefighter contributed a whole lot of useful info to this site, but hes one of the best Instructors i've ever had! I've known him for quite some time and hes a straight to the point, no BS kind of guy and thats whats great about him! Just take one of his classes and you won't regret it! Hes very approachable if you ever have any questions, comments or concerns! I also have to say thats hes one hell of a firefighter and one of the best EMS providers i have ever worked with. Als, congrats and its always a privaledge brother!

Remember585....I couldn't have said it better myself bro! Our job (as firefighters, EMT's or police officers) is to protect life & property, bottom line! When i was riding with Peekskill EMS, we were returning from Phelps and rolled up on a multi-vehicle, multi-patient mva at Highland & Croton Ave. in Ossining. Did we drive by and just call OVAC....? Hell no, we stopped and helped OVAC & the other m/a EMS agencies until our services were no longer needed! That is what emergency services is all about. This story absolutely blew my mind when i read it! I was always taught that if you have proper training and roll up on an accident (or are in a firetruck & roll up on a structure fire), you must stop & render aid if possible. To be called to a structure fire, roll up & its fully involved and just turn around because its not in your 1st-due area? WTF? That is absolutely absurd! I hope that the homeowner considers suing the balls off of the fire district! Personally, if an officer told me & my crew to stand down from something like that, i think i'd tell him to go scratch and deal with the consequences later!

Date: 12-03-05 Time: Location: Sprout Brook Rd. Frequency: 46.38/46.26 Units Operating: Putnam Valley FD, Peekskill FD E134 (FASTeam), Car 2341, Montrose FD (R51 on s/b for Peekskill) Description Of Incident: Working Fire in a p/d Writer: BFD1054 *Anyone with further info, please add in the Incident Workshop section or PM me with the info & i will update the post, thanks!

Date: 12-03-05 Time: 1916hrs Location: Sarles St. & South Bedford Rd. Frequency: 46.26 Units Operating: Cars 2033, 2031, E198, MA9, E199 (s/c), Beford FD-EMS 52B1, KBHVAC, Mt. Kisco VAC, 45-M-1 Description Of Incident: MVA Writer: BFD1054 1917hrs-Car 2033 10-17. 1919hrs-Car 2031 10-17. Bedford FD-EMS (52B1) ambulance requested M/A to the scene. 1920hrs-E198 10-17. 1922hrs-Car 2031 10-19. MA9 10-17. 1927hrs-Car 2031 advising (4) ambulances needed. Bedford FD-EMS, Katonah-Bedford-Hills-VAC & Mt. Kisco VAC will handle. 1928hrs-MA9 10-19. 1930hrs-Car 2031 requesting 60-Control to make a notification; Northern Westchester Hospital will receive (5) patients, while Westchester Medical Center will get (2) patients. 1932hrs-Bedford 52B1 10-19. 1934hrs-Bedford-Hills E199 requested for speedy dry as per Car 2031. 1935hrs-E199 10-17. 1948hrs-Car 2031 reports all patients transported, FD units remaining on scene. *Anyone have further? Any entrapment or critical injuries? **Sorry Guys...i meant to post this under Incident-Alerts, my mistake.

Date: 12-01-05 Time: 1800hrs (approx.) Location: Mill Pond Rd./Rt. 100 - Behind Season's Restaurant Frequency: 46.26/FG1 Units: Somers Car 2441 (IC), R20, U34 (SCUBA), 80B1, Katonah-Bedford-Hills VAC, Yorktown E273 & Cars 2532, 2534 (s/b at Lincolndale FH), Croton Falls Car 2071, U28 (for haz-mat booms), DEC and others... Description: Car into Mill Pond with haz-mat spill Writer: BFD1054 *Somers FD/EMS dispatched to above location for a report of a car into the pond; driver out of the vehicle. R20 & EMS dispatched. Car 2441 was on location, establishing command & requesting the Dive team be added to the assignment. Car 2441 confirmed that the driver was out of the vehicle, however the vehicle was submerged w/fluid spill in the pond. 1904hrs-Mill Pond Command (2441) requesting Montrose VAFD HAZ-MAT 3 to the scene for additional booms.

Date: 11-28-05 Time: 1231hrs Location: 3199 Albany Post Rd. (Westchester Industrial Complex) Frequency: 46.26/FG-5 Units Operating: Cars 2552, 2555, 2556, E161, R26, Peekskill EMS 75B1 (m/a), 35M1, Montrose VAFD MA28, WCDES Batt-12, Buchanan PD Cars 265 & 268. Description Of Incident: High levels of CO within the structure w/(1) victim Writer: BFD1054 1231hrs-Buchanan FD/Cortlandt EMS dispatched to above address for a patient w/difficulty breathing. 1235hrs-Car 2552 10-19. 1237hrs-Car 2552 advising of possible CO poisoning, requesting (1) Engine & R26 to the scene. 1242hrs-R26 & E161 10-17. 1243hrs-R26 & E161 10-19. 1256hrs-Car 2552 requesting Montrose VAFD to respond w/manpower to assist w/ventilation. 1300hrs-Car 2555 advising high CO readings, in the process of ventilation. 1305hrs-Montrose VAFD MA28 10-19. 1330hrs-WCDES Battalion-12 advising situation under control, CO readings are dropping in the structure. 1339hrs-As per Car 2552, signal 10-30, releasing VAFD MA28, holding all additional units. 1341hrs-VAFD MA28 10-8. 1348hrs-Batt-12 10-8. 1352hrs-As per Car 2552, all additional units 10-8. *A worker at this location became very neausious & complained of difficulty breathing. Upon arrival of Car 2552 & Cortlandt ALS 35M1, it became apparent that this was caused by CO. Car 2552 immediately requested that the alarm be upgraded to a possible CO poisoning & requested that (1) engine & R26 respnd to the scene. The patient was transported to WMC, ALS via Peekskill EMS 75B1. Upon entering the structure (a large, multi-story, multi-occupancy), crews encountered very high levels of CO (above 1000 PPM) throughout the #1 floor. Crews used numerous ventilation fans until the CO levels dropped and the situation was deemed safe.

Art, very funny bro! For those of you who haven't watched the video, it is well worth the wait for the punchline!!!

SQUADco119...I think the problem with a quint/ladder being assigned to the Montrose VAFD is the "henhouses"/pedestrian walkways. They are much to narrow and not high enough for a ladder. However, if those were not an issue, a quint would suit the VA perfectly (IMO). I could never understand myself why they never had one. I also could never understand why the government couldn't muster up some funds to give the VAFD a more adequate firehouse in terms of size? Its a damn shame that the almost-new Haz-Mat rig and the ambulance have to sit in the parking lot . I know their current engine (E225 Pierce) is a tight squeeze to fit into the bay as it is. EMSCOMM80...Yes, if i am not mistaken, MA28 is in the process of being re-designated as a Rescue (unknown #). Last i knew of, MA28 did not carry extrication tools, however maybe its in the cards for them? Turborich...Yes, the FDVA did order (2), i believe, Ferrara Class-A pumpers which should be delivered within the next few months i would think. I'm not too sure if they are on Spartan chassis, but definately Ferrara rigs and (1) will be for the Montrose campus and the other for Castle Point (Dutchess).

*EMS Division* Captain - Eric Singer - 8811 1st Lieutenant - John Munson - 8812 2nd Lieutenant - Robert Pappas - 8813 *Business Division* President - John Callaghan Vice President - Brian Tubbs Treasurer - Mary Chopyack Recording Secretary - Patti Singer Corresponding Secretary - Gil Morello *Board of Directors* Chairman - John Callaghan Captain - Eric Singer Treasurer - Mary Chopyack Community Members Al Chopyack William Durr Debbie Fay d*** Epstein* Joseph Fichter John Filangeri Judge Gerald Klein*** Rev. Douglas Leonard Mike Lepore Joseph Mayer ** * Ex-Official ** Alternate *** Corps. Attorney Corps. Members Kitty Chetner Bob Ferguson John Jackson Patrick Matwijec Marion Povilonis Kathy Stewart These results were read off at the November regular Cortlandt VAC meeting. Congratulations to all newly elected officers, may they serve us well, as i am sure they will! Also, congrats to members serving in a new capacity this upcoming year!

Date: 11-22-05 Time: 1245hrs Location: Building 28 Montrose VA Campus Frequency: 46.26 Units Operating: Montrose VAFD Car 2571 (IC), E225, MA28, 48B1, Montrose FD Cars 2271, 2272, 2273, E121, TL8, WCDES Car-2, Batt-12, Verplanck E128 & Car 2493 (s/:lol:, Croton E119 & 119-1 (s/:( Description Of Incident: Working basement fire in an OMD Writer: BFD1054 1245hrs-Montrose VAFD Car 2571 (Chief Ed Byrnes) advising 60-Control of a working basement fire, building 28, requesting 60-Control to fill out the 1st alarm assignment (1&1 from Montrose). 1250hrs-E121, Cars 2272, 2273 10-19. 1251hrs-TL8 10-17. Car 2272 operating TL8, Car 2271 requesting the TIC off of E123. 1253hrs-TL8/Car 2272 10-19. TL8 directed to the right of the building for ventilation. WCDES Car-2 10-17. 1257hrs-KED-763 Montrose advising Car 2271 that the TIC is en-route. Car 2271 requesting (1) engine from Verplanck to re-locate to Montrose FD HQ & (1) engine from Croton to re-locate to the Montrose FDVA HQ. 1300hrs-WCDES Batt-12 10-17. 1302hrs-As per Montrose VA Command, primary & secondary searches compleate & (-), companies have located the seat of the fire, building has been evacuated, holding all units. Car 2493 & E128 10-17 to Montrose. 1304hrs-E119 & 119-1 re-locating to the Montrose VAFD HQ. 1306hrs-As per Montrose VA Command, signal 10-30, companies venting, still holding all units. 1308hrs-E128 10-19 Montrose FD HQ. 1315hrs-E119 10-19 Montrose VAFD HQ. 1320hrs-WCDES Car-2 going 10-8, WCDES Batt-12 remaining on scene. 1325hrs-As per VAFD Car 2571, all Montrose FD units have been released. Car 2271 releasing Verplanck from s/b. 1330hrs-VAFD Car 2571 terminating command, all Montrose VAFD units back in service. Croton E119 going 10-8.

As for Verplanck's E-One/Bronto Sky-lift, their website states that it has a vertical reach of 100' and a horizontal reach of 88'. I could have sworn it was more than that, i guess i was wrong. The cool feature about the Bronto (imo), is its feature where it can reach approximately 20' below grade with the bucket elevated. http://www.verplanckfd.com/index.php

Date: 11-21-05 Time: 1720hrs Location: Rt. 100 & Rt. 139 Frequency: 46.26 Units Operating: Somers 2441, 2445 (LZ Officer), U5, R20, E-181, 80B1, 80B2; NYSP, Somers PD Description Of Incident: MVA w/pin. Writer: BFD1054 1722hrs-Fire-Police requested. 1724hrs-Car 2441 advising of entrapment. 1725hrs-Car 2445 & R20 10-17. 1728hrs-E185 10-17. R20 10-19. 1730hrs-KEC-625 Somers requesting E181 to respond & set-up a Landing-Zone on Rt. 100, just north of Rt. 35. 1732hrs-Car 2445 advising 60-Control that he will be the ground contact & is switching over to 46.140. 1735hrs-As per the request of Car 2441, KEC-625 Somers paging out for a 2nd ambulance to respond to the scene. North Salem VAC requested to s/b to cover Somers. 1737hrs-E181 10-17. 1738hrs-Car 2441 requesting an ETA on Stat-Flight. 60-Control advising Stat-Flight unavailable, LifeGaurd-18 will be responding. 1741hrs-E181 10-19 at the LZ. 1747hrs-Car 2441 again requesting an ETA of LifeGaurd-18. 60-Control still waiting an update. Car 2441 advising that the patient will be transported by ground, LifeGaurd-18 can stand-down. Car 2445 advising he will clear the LZ. 1750hrs-Car 2441 placing this incident under control. 1817hrs-Car 2441 terminating command.

Wow, i was staying away from this topic for awhile because i figured it would turn out to be an all-out volly vs. career bash fest! I am so glad to see that i was wrong and that educated, mature conversations have been taking place! Bravo to those who have replied to this topic soo far! I have read all the replies on this topic and was pleased with all of them! Everyone had great input, thoughts and concerns. First off, hats off to JN352 for one hell of a relply! That was one awesome reply brother! I was impressed that you not only admitted to being a volunteer & career FF (sometimes guys don't like to mention that), but you also made great points for both sides! Now, for my reply lol; Let me start off by saying that i am a volunteer firefighter with approximately 7 years in the fire service. I am NOT a career FF, but have absoutely nothing against career FF's in any way! I have many friends who are on the job in various towns & cities and we get along very well. I have friends who are on the job and we can bust each others chops non-stop, but in the end, we all share mutual respect for one another. Before i got hired at my current job, i too was taking civil service exams for firefighter positions. I happen to like my current job (mainly because of the $$$ & benefits), so i have not taken any exams in quite some time. However, i may decide to take some in the future and if anything come's up, i have the option to take it. My point is that i love the fire service and if i could get paid for being a firefighter, even better! I joined the volunteer fire service because many of my family members were/are volunteer FF's. I saw what they did/do and had respect for it and knew that as soon as i was of age, i too would join. At that time, i didn't know much about the fire service and never considered it as a career path. It may sound cliche, but i got involved in the fire service because of my family, but more so because i wanted to help my community and get involved. As some of you have stated, instead of bashing one another, we should be trying to get on the same page! After all, aren't we all trying to accomplish the same goals? Speaking for myself, i am constantly trying to better myself as a FF. I take as many courses & seminars as i can fit into my schedule! I even like to take courses on things that i may think i will never need to know, because in the fire service you never do know what to expect! Unfortunately, i can only speak for myself and many FF's don't share that same way of thinking. If i could go through the career academy, that would be great! I think it would be an awesome opportunity for me, not to mention a good challenge! Unfortunately, i wouldn't be able to fit it into my schedule, not would my dept. pay for it and i'm not even sure if it would be allowed? That would be something that the County/State could try and work on. Devise an academy, equal to that of the career one, but make it accessible to volunteers. In other words, conduct it a few nights a week and also utilize Saturdays. Obviously it would be much longer than the daytime career academy, but it would be fair. Is this a reasonable goal, i can't say, but just a thought i had. Getting back to the main issue, career/volly hostility. Is there hostility between the two groups, sure there is! As someone else stated, if we all said there wasn't, we'd be lying and or ignorant! Its out there, we all know it, but lets try and stop some of it if we can! Again, we're all out there trying to accomplish the same things; to protect life and property when we are called upon! antiquefirelt...you stated that "I know many volunteers that I'd trade for a few career "professionals", any day." Is this to say that volunteers can not be just as good or as professional as career FF's? I'm not trying to start a fight with you, just making a statement. I'm sure there are some career FF's out there that aren't all that professional. I'm sure it could be the other way around in that some vollunteers could be better than some career FF's. I've probably just opened up a big can of worms and i'm sure someones panties are twisted reading this, but why can't it be that way? And i will agree, there are plenty of volly FF's out there who don't have adequit training and probably shouldn't be considered firefighters to begin with. However, these are issues that individual departments must deal with. As i have said, i have nothing against career FF's and have friends on the job. My department got the chance to train with a local combination department not to long ago. The training session was an all day affair and was conducted at an aquired structure. We trained in areas of search & rescue, FAST op's and ladder/roof op's. In one scenario, i was paired up with a career FF and i'll admit i was a little intimidated and wasn't sure what to expect. We were instructed to enter the structure and locate a downed FF. Not only did we get the job done, but we did it as a team and had great communications. When we got outside, we stopped to talk about everything and even had a few laughs! Why do i share this story with all of you? Just to show that it shouldn't matter whether or not you're career or volunteer, we should all have the same overall goals! Lets try and remember that we are all in this brotherhood of firefighting together! When there is a job to get done, lets get it done and not worry whos a volly and whos career! For us volunteer FF's, lets try and keep up to date with our training so we can be the best we can be! For our brother career FF's, may you all keep fresh on your skills as well! And to everyone in the fire service, train as if your life depends on it, because guess what? IT DOES! Most importantly, stay safe everyone!

Date: 11-21-05 Time: 1450hrs (approx.) Location: Route 9 SB Frequency: Units Operating: Village of Fishkill PD, NYSP 2K25, 2K18 & others Description Of Incident: Vehicle persuit w/foot chase Writer: BFD1054 1450hrs(approx.)-Village of Fishkill Patrol units and NYSP in persuit of vehicle on Route-9 SB. Subject then turned onto Rt. 52 WB. 1456hrs-Village of Fishkill unit has subject pinned (on foot) in a yard on Route-52. NYSP-Poughkeepsie attempting to reach Village of Fishkill unit to get a better location. 1457hrs-As per NYSP-Poughkeepsie, Fishkill is reporting the yard to be the 2nd house in from Route-52, possibly #1179 Rt. 52. 1458hrs-As per NYSP unit, all incoming units can slow down, subject is in custody.

I agree with many of you in saying that this article should be aimed at the commisioners and others who allow the ridiculous spending to go on! They talk about $400,000 fire trucks, but as stated, thats not all that expensive anymore! I'm not knocking them, but the Coram firehouse definately seems out of control! Having a gym/work out equipment is one thing, but their gym is bigger & better than many of the athletic clubs around here! And a tiki bar in the gym, come on! 4 fire poles throughout their hoouse is nuts too. To have one in the bathroom...that just shows how pure disregard for spending IMO. I thought fire poles weren't being installed in firehouses anymore for fear of injuries? The apparatus bay is huge, which is nice, but is it really needed? I won't even begin to comment on the whole bar situation! Again, not knocking them, just seems that their spending is way out of whack! As far as some of you talking about some departments possibly going in the way of career staffing, I could definately see it happening, not only on the Island, but here in Westchester too! If they have all that money to spend on ridiculous things, they could afford to have at least partial career staffing IMO. If departments/communities want to hire career staff, i have nothing against that, in fact its a great idea. I have plenty of friends who are on the job, so i am in no way anti-career. If communities can afford it, why not have some career staffing? Hell, if Buchanan ever decided to start a career staff, i'd be the first to sign up lol! Unfortunately, i haven't been in too many firehouses in Westchester, but i can speak for the few i have in saying that i haven't experienced flagrent spending. Hell, our firehouse is quite old and very small. Instead of specing trucks for our needs, we have to spec them according to our bay's size. When we took delivery of our new Utility-12 (in 2003), we had to sell our 3rd engine because we had no room for it! We've talked about building an addition, but its just not in the cards for us right now. Most other firehouses that i have been in seem to be quite realistic in terms of size, apparatus and furnishings.