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Here is where I do not agree with some of you guys...this is a bit wrong on all levels. If you are career in a combination department and you feel "threatened" by the volunteers that might "take your job away" there is more issues there then you know. If I was a volunteer in a career combination department I would not be trying to take anyones job. I would have my resume in for when there are openings from retirement or someone moving out of the area, but I would never try to back-stab a brother who is already being paid for the job. I am still going to be volunteer and have tremendous pride in being able to respond to calls and help where I can, but would never step on the toes of the career crew, or back-stab them in any way. If this is happening; SHAME on those members. But on the other hand; SHAME on those career guys simply for thinking that just because a volunteer shows up, they are taking the "fork" out of your mouths. They are showing up to help you, back you up and make sure you all go home at the end of the shift so you CAN pick up that fork with your family. We should alll WORK TOGETHER, dont you think??? This thinking is all wrong and I am not trying to hurt anyones feelings here either, but those of us volunteers that take pride in our training and pride in our ability to help others only want to help; both the people we serve and our career brothers/sisters who are severely under-staffed and under-funded. I for one dont want to see any ONE career firefighter have to do EVERYTHING alone, I want to help, I want to make sure they dont get hurt, not back-stab them. Maybe I am wrong in this line of thinking and i know there are those scum out there trying to take your job from you, everyone wants to be career firefighter and support their families doing a job they LOVE, but it shouldnt divide us...shouldnt it?

Thank you cogs, you beat me to it. I never knew that about him, but I will watch all of his movies now and respect him a lot more. That to me is a true test of brotherhood...here you have a famous actor, successfull, he could have very easily made a big spectacle out of it with video cameras and taking pictures of him in his gear shaking babies and kissing hands and "helping" his former work buddies dig through the pile. But he didnt. He kept his identity secret and did what he knew was right and went to look for the guys that were lost and never made it public. THATS brotherhood.

As an assistant chief I have never worked with these or went to a fire involving them. They are in my area on PD's but have never dealt with them. This is a good wake up call for me to have something at drill about these. All good points and good information being shared, please keep it up, anyone else have more? Stay Safe.

I respect your opinion and agree with it for the most part. But I will respectfully ask you this; please do not group all of us in this 80% group that you have experienced until you have actually worked with all of us. I may not be at the firehouse as much as I want to be, or I may not have fought as many fires as you have fought, but I have fought fires, I have done searches for victims many times and have found them, but not the way I wanted to find them and its multiple images I will never get rid of and a source of pain for my pride that I could not help these people. I train hard, harder than any other volunteer in my department, and currently hold many titles that i will not waste time posting. I take pride in what I do and was brought up the right way with that sense of brotherhood, and I learned that brotherhood from those three career FDNY guys I had the priviledge of working with my first 4 years in the fire service on Long Island and will never forget them. Im not your typical volunteer, and there are others here on this site that are not the typical volunteer either. Dont get me wrong, there are the wackers here that "Play" volunteer fireman, and dress up and think its cool to play with sirens and deck their cars out with all sorts of strobes and flashers and blinky things...not me. I take it seriously. Im one of the volunteers that strongly agree we should have the same training standards and physical fitness requirements that career firefighters have and am actively fighting that with letters to my government reps and FASNY. I blog about it in another firefighters web site I go to frequently as well and try to get others to agree. I enter the same burning buildings with the same turnout gear and the same set of irons and the same hose line and I agressively attack the seat of the fire just like I am trained to do. I think the brotherhood has been killed by situations like these (the above mentioned experiences between volunteer and career members). If you look at my experience with the 4 career staff at the large main street fire, should he realy have acted that way towords me? Especially since most would think a young guy like me should be the one picking up the hose instead of the more experienced member? I was doing what my father and other senior guys taught me all my life; respect the senior men and officers, always jump in and help any firefighter no matter what the job, and always be first to volunteer for any assignment. I am thankfull for all of the replies on this topic as well as all of the messages I received from members regarding brotherhood and sharing your stories with me too. I respect all of your opinions and I am thankfull no major wars have been started yet. Keep the discussion going and share more brotherhood experiences and stay safe. Have a great weekend too!

You are correct, I knew 3 guys when I was in Long Island that worked for FDNY, and they were volunteers for my past department there, one was a lieutenant serving under my father as Captain in the Engine Co.. All three guys were upstanding gentlemen and always offered the younger guys like me any and all advice that we would listen to, and I listened. Every drill we had I followed them and learned from them and they never stopped teaching and never had a bad attitude towards the volunteers. They were true brothers that didnt look at "volunteers" or "career", they only saw "firefighter" and showed tremendous brotherhood and support. Then I moved upstate...The first big fire I went to was two towns away from us, BIG main street fire involving a row of buildings. The one career department in that county was on scene with their aerial ladder and 4 guys, they were operating all night and in the morning had about 4000 feet of 5" to pick up. I saw them starting to pick up and I went over and started to help. The one guy looked up and saw who I was and told me to "F Off you jolly volly probie, we can handle our own sh*#!!!" I was amazed. I looked at him and said "Im just trying to help pick up all this 5" hose" and he got even angrier and said they didnt need any volunteer help, to go find a bar and get my irish on. I walked away. Their chief was in the truck turning something off and he jumped down and told me not to take it personal, they were all crabby they had to work OT. I said that I was there for 18 hours myself and not getting paid to do it, yet I still offered to help pick up the enormous amount of LDH they had out. The chief appreciated it, and thanked me, I even saw the chief at the firehouse later that morning and he had breakfast with me and the guys from my department and he apologized again. Some have brotherhood, some do not. The chief had it, his own crew did not. I have had other experiences with both fellow volunteer and other career "brothers", some good some horrible, but I always continue to show as much brotherhood as I can. If I see an IAFF tee-shirt I will walk over and shake hands with them and introduce myself. If I see one of the buffs with a Volunteer tee-shirt, hat, buttons, patches, rings, watches, jackets and the huge blue bar light hanging over either side of his truck...I pretend like I dont know them... Cogs, does the brotherhood you have with other soldiers differ from that of the fire service or is it the same? I would imagine it is even stronger than ours. I know that is still strong and not in danger, what are you guys doing to keep it strong (Other than keeping each other alive in firefights and mine fields)? Stay safe too.

Antiquefirelt, I do think you hit the nail dead center on the head. Respect for senior firefighters and officers has been destroyed by self-centered arrogant cocky young pups fresh out of firefighter 1 training who think they know it all too. Technology has taken away that close knit family feeling, and then the younger age coming in today are all "know-it-alls" because their daddy was a chief or their whole family was in the department...wrong. They come in instantly barking orders and demanding respect...wrong. When I first joined in Long Island, I kept quiet, listened when a senior firefighter or officer spoke, volunteered for every assignment even if it was cleaning toilets, we had to stand at attention whenever the chief entered the meeting room during meetings or drills, and I never let a senior firefighter pack hose after calls even if I were exhausted. I asked them questions and tried to learn something new every time, even if I was already comfortable with what we were drilling on. I never acted cocky, or arrogant, or touted my own horn. After time, I saw that I EARNED the respect they finaly showed me when I was around the station, and I was able to joke around more. It took time. Today; everyone expects instant over-night success and respect just because they joined. I fully blame that on what was already mentioned a few times; todays kids are getting awards for everything, even just for participating, and they never fail and do not learn that they have to work hard to succeed. They are now turning 18 and joining the fire service expecting to be rewarded instantly for everything, and they dont know how to earn anything. Its sad. I guess old timers like you and I are a thing of the past... Brotherhood is dead, I dont know when it was on life support or how it ever was allowed to slip away like it did, but people like me, and you (antiquefirelt, Firnatine, and others) will still try to pass on the traditions and share the brotherhood that we have still in our hearts. Its up to the others to accept it and practice it though and thats what bothers me...

As everyone here knows, or should know, NFPA Standards are just that; standards. They are glorified recommendations that NFPA boards of specialists suggest we follow in our agencies. They are not requirements, but standards put together by a board of experts in the field and offered as suggestions of what we as fire departments should strive to follow. These standards are then taken and voted on and turned into state and local laws, if approved. BUT...If you fail to follow what a board of experts suggested resulting in a serious injury or death??? Courts will rip you apart for that as a chief, whether you are a volunteer or career chief. That is the issue, you were one of the only ones to write them your concerns. What needs to happen is ALL of us need to write FASNY and our local government and the state requesting these changes as a whole body of concerned firefighters. I will be doing this soon myself so if anyone is interested in collaborating let me know, we can write a decent letter if we put many minds to the task. I agree completely with the physical standards being the same as well. Too many firefighters are dropping with heart related and unknown medical causes during and after the response. How many times have we all read about LODD that happened at the station AFTER the call was over? Firefighters found in their bunks, or in the shower deceased?? We are dropping like flies because we are not physically fit, and it needs to change. Dont get me wrong, my nickname is moose for a reason; not because I am a muscle bound freak, but because I have a convenient shelf to put my plate at dinner time or my beer while watching football, and I need to loose it BIGTIME. I am a chief, and the message I am sending the members is the wrong one. If we had standards for physical fitness I would have worked hard to keep my post-high school physique I had after playing baseball; I was 195 pounds and in the best shape of my life...now the only shape I am in is round. We as volunteers need to have the same training and the same physical fitness standards as the career departments do, and as someone already said above, if we end up loosing people because of the increase in standards then they are the ones we did not need int he first place. Im all for change, and its needed.

I think the last bubble on the cartoon should say "Where did I leave my pants...." I agree and this is why my area isnt where we are supposed to be as a fire service, the old gaurd had become too complacent and never planned for the future. I was at a meeting at the beginning of the month to discuss our new station with the community and they were all asking why it had to be so big, why it had to have showers and a washer and dryer. When I explained about trying to think for the future of the department, and the increasing size of modern fire aparattus and the future needs of the fire service they were stunned into silence. We need to think of the future in every move we make and prepare for it always. Good points, especially for the physical fitness program for volunteers, we have annual physicals but no fitness test which I believe we should in order to cut back on heart attacks and those "unknown medical" reasons for firefighters to drop at the station after calls.

The Taurus isnt any better either. I own a Taurus and drive one at work too, cant fit in either of them and my back KILLS me when I drive them.

I guess no one uses a county wide system like we do? It makes sense to have the same Accountability tags for all departments so its easier to find the info you needed without having to guess who has what type of card or what color red is here or blue is there...KISS Our county fire coordinator has the software and machine in his office, you go and have your picture taken, they put a scan bar on it that has your medical info and training record. On the back they list the limportant certs you have like "FF2, Haz-Mat, EMT, ICS, NIMS, Ladder Ops, Rescue Ops, Investigation" Etc Etc for quick review. The colors are all the same for each department; green interior red exterior, blue EMS, orange is explorer. When they need to they scan the card and it lists all medical info, emergency contacts, training records and department info.

When I was an EMT-CC the local ED's always wanted a report regardless of status so they knew what we were bringing, and towords the end of my EMT days they even started to tell us certain PT's could be "triaged" in the lobby, meaning we are full with patients that actually need help so they can wait in the lobby and watch TV. My reports for emergencies were brief and to the point; Age, Chief Complaint, Vitals, treatments given, ETA. My reports for transports; "PT from "ABC" ED with (enter chief diagnosis from ED Doc) vitals stable no change ETA". I often thought why we even needed to give a report for inter-facility transports when the receiving doc already talked with the sending ER Doc and got a report on the patient, but got yelled at quite a few times by Nurses and Docs for not reporting the events of the trip and advising them of our ETA so they can prepare for them...sigh...guess the hospitals up here by me still like to play with the radio and feel important. I would use my cell phone if it were up to me and just call the receiving unit/nurse to advise of our trip and ETA. I HATED the long winded reports I heard some of our weekend-warrior EMT's in my county give, they would literally need to start their report about 20 minutes out so they had time to talk..."PT felt sick to stomache last week, took Pepto with no relief, ate some beans, felt better, then felt sick again, vomitedX3 and called us, history of heart and stomache illness and poor eating habits, sweaty, laying supine, SPO2 98% room air, secondary survey negative for injury or signs of illness, I went to the opera last week and enjoyed it, have patient on oxygen even though his SPO2 was high just as precaution, carried patient to ambulance with stair chair, my back hurts now as result, no other complaints, have patient legs elevated...just in case, ETA about.....oh.....(hey jimmy, where are we? How far out?)...uhhh...about 10 (NO 15!!) oh, make that 15 minutes out do you require any more information on the patient...never mind I see you now through the window."

All my prayers to him and his family on a speedy FULL recovery. God bless them all.

I thought for sure this one would have been brought up already and was shocked to see it not mentioned; I loved the one where the woman called 911 because they got her order wrong at the drive through and she kept arguing with the dispatcher that it's wrong they couldnt get her order right and she is a busy mother who needed to get dinner for her kids while on their way to soccer and they got the order wrong and she wants a police officer to take a report and the dispatcher actually got mad and told her 911 is for emergencies, she isnt going to send a unit over because her burgers were wrong...classic call that I thought everyone would remember!! The woman refused to enter the restaurant to complain and get another burger to replace it but she would sit in the parking lot on the phone with 911 for an hour trying to get PD to respond and "Issue Justice" for her burgers...LOL

The first one is not a call, but related to the 9/11 experiences being shared by some. I was not able to make it to the city that day, we were mobilizing a task force of fire and ems from my county to respond on the NYS mutual aid response system but were cancelled last minute due to all the career and volunteer firefighters that just showed up without notice. SO instead of turning them around they put them to work and had us stand-by. But a week later, a local church had a memorial service for those lost that day and invited all of the FD's, EMS and Police agencies to attend. We were car pooling to the event and there were 7 of us in uniform standing in the open truck bay or our station waiting for more members to show. Across the street from us a couple emerged from their car slowly, and the woman had been crying, she looked at us and started to cry hysterically again. Her husband held her and they walked across the street as if in a funeral procession. They got to us and they both were crying at this point. She finaly told us (through her tears) that they wanted to thank us for helping strangers and doing what we did. That was all they said. They then hugged every one of us, a long hug, saying nothing else to us. Then they turned and walked a few feet away, and turned back and told us "God bless all of you and your families, I will never forget any of you again..." and they went back to their car....None of us talked, we just sat there dumbfounded until we finaly got up and piled into two cars and went to the ceremony, a little more somber then we were already, and the chief and 2 of us were even tearing up a bit. One is more funny then serious; I went to a structure fire in my past department with my father. We arrived on scene in the first due engine to find it fully involved on the first and second floors with smoke pumping from the basement doors. I remember stretching a 2 1/2" line and was getting ready for water when i heard barking from the basement. I yelled to my father and the Lieutenant on scene to grab a tool and ran over to the door, it was locked on the inside. My father had a halligan and told me to cover him with the line. He forced the door open and quicker then either of us could react 5 dogs of various size raced out and ALL latched on to my fathers bunker pant leg, snarling and growling. I froze and didnt know what to do first when my father started Screaming "SHOOT THEM!!! SHOOT THE LITTLE BASTARDS!!!" while he tried to kick at them with his other leg. It was hysterical to watch as the Lt quickly fell to the ground laughing and wailing. I shot them with a quick blast from the line and they all took off into the woods behind the home. Hey...they were alive. We kept an eye out for them the rest of the time there and the owners tried calling to them but I guess they were afraid of their rescuers! They finally emerged from the woods during overhaul and the owners got them in the car ok and took them to the vet. No injuries for the dogs, but my fathers leg and pride...another story!! My second call as an EMT-CC; It was on the Interstate during a freak ice storm that came out of nowhere. A pickup going 65 lost control on the ice, spun around 360 degrees 2 or 3 times and then slammed head-on into a tractor-trailer behind him that also lost control going 70...driver of the pickup was ejected and rolled 45 yards down the road, his truck looked like an accordian. Driver of the rig was pinned, both legs busted, ribs busted, head injury. I got out of the bus and ran to the guy that was ejected with the trauma bag and he took his last gurgling breath as I knelt next to him with the county paramedic (that just taught my class) with me. We tubed him, the medic did needle chest decompressions, started 3 large bores on him and packaged him up. He ended up flying out in the bird that was called for the rig driver but he was still pinned and being extricated by 2 FD's. 37 minutes later we got the driver out and flew him out on bird #2 that both landed right on the interstate. Both are alive and well today, a little handicapped but still breathing. Last call to talk about but many more come to mind, its been 24 years... I went to a house fire, 3rd department called for tanker and manpower. By the time we got there the main fire was knocked, so they had us check for extension. I was walking through the living room joking around with a guy I trained with from another department and I was just taking pictures and stuff off the wall and wrapping them in a blanket from the back of the couch. I grabbed a couple of dozen picture frames from the walls, I couldnt see what they were due to the soot. I took other items off shelves and tucked them in the couch cushions and did other salvage work too. We finished our sweep and came outside (with the blanket wrapped picture frames over my shoulder like santa) and I scanned the front yard for the owners. They were across the street with the neighbors on the lawn so I approached them. I gave them the blanket and told them I grabbed some things for them and protected a bunch of other stuff, and told them where I put it all. The wife looked at some of the frames and started to cry...hysterically...I didnt know if I should hug her or run and hide...then she looked at me and said "These are my wedding pictures of my grandparents, theyr'e very old, and these are my daughters graduation pictures, and this...(holding up a frame)...is my daughters birth certificate with hand and foot prints..." She hugged me and cried. The hubby shook my hand and said thank you about 2 dozen times. THAT, was the best call ever, even though the house was a loss, but their memories were saved. Almost as good as saving a life I guess.

Lets face it calhobs, the real shame in todays world where drunk driving and efforts to prevent it are prevalent is the fact that the others got on the boat with the drunk guy or didnt try and stop him. They all got on that boat, driver included, knowing they were all drinking. It was dangerous, stupid, assinine, and in todays world should never happen after all of the publicity with drunk drivers killing people, drunk teens killing each other in high speed accidents and all the grief that goes with it. How many times will we have to lose loved ones to drunken driving accidents before we all grow up? Yes it was sad, yes it should have never happened, but I have no further pity for any ahole that gets behind the wheel drunk or any of his dumb friends that get in with them without stoping them or even thinking its dangerous to do so... Its my life, if I see someone drunk I would rather punch them in the face and grab their keys and have them pissed off at me for a while before I let them get behind the wheel, and if I cant prevent that I will keep everyone else from getting in with them.

Ok, I believe what Westchester is saying here (In order to prevent the age old and boring arguments) is that our career brothers and sisters are highly trained and should normally be able to operate at these type of incidents with no trouble because of their training. As volunteers, we do not get the career academy with the basic rescue training all included in one shot, we have to get all of the individual rescue trainings in order to operate at a call like this one. He states that he is proud that some of the volunteers can rise to the level of the career family in both training standards and professionalism in order to operate at a water based search operation like this one, and he is extremely proud to be a part of this group that selflessly dedicate their time with family and hours from work in order to train and respond to these incidents. I see no crack or insult at either the career or volunteer brothers so please keep it that way. For now we will leave it as is but we are watching you... Keep it on track. Thank you.

Prayers and thoughts to the family and friends of Trooper Martindale, Rest In Peace trooper.

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Thank you for the clarification, and I applaud you on your efforts to bring quality training to your department. You dont see that too often and I respect the hell out of you. I hope you are able to continue the training standards for your department without too much hassle. I wish my department would have the same enthusiasm but it just isnt there, and I thought the new training center would change that but it, just like any new idea was just a quick spark of interest then right back to our old habbits again... Best of luck with your training brother. In service training is used to supplement whatever certified training you receive and can be tracked using department training sign-in sheets. If you dont have the sign-in sheet with the subject covered in the drill, equipment used and member signatures with an officer in charge, it didnt happen. I know these are easily pencil-whipped, but its about honor and pride, you want to provide a service to the community you need to be responsible enough to train the right way and keep appropriate records. And as always, if I am wrong in this please correct me!

??? ??? Its NYS Training, everyone gets it either at the academy or through outreach programs in your county scheduled by your fire coordinator, dont you ever have any courses in your county? I dont understand your comment (for real, no jab or insult intended). If its a joke I apologize. I dont think the outreach classes cost anything other than a registration fee to cover the cost of the instructors salary through OFPC. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.

Because it was not given by a certified state fire instructor. Anyone can run around saying that their FF's receive the proper curriculum in training drills in station, but how can you prove it? No file with the state through the instructors credentials, so it doesnt exist. I accidentally hit the "like" button while trying to reply, sorry!

I dont know this area well enough, but from what I read they called for one department for their aerial ladder correct? There are sometimes situations where an extensive mutual aid contract needs to be in place to get the equipment and manpower you need to effectively provide the service the people deserve. They may have called for the third department just for manpower if needed because they knew everyone is hurting during the daytime for manpower? These are all questions that us "back seat drivers" cant answer unless we are members of this department and know first hand. I am just slightly disgusted at all the negative criticism given a department that in my eyes, are being professional enough to know what they can and can't provide in a situation and are smart and professional enough to address those needs ahead of time through an AMA agreement. If it takes 3 departments to do that, so be it, as long as the services are being provided. Like Bnechis said though this shouldnt be a long term solution but in some cases what can be done to correct a manpower issue? Combining the departments will just take 2 short staffed departments and make it one larger yet still short staffed department. Lets face it, not everyone is pro-consolidation, and if you were to get it approved there would be the certain percentage of members from both departments that would quit as a result of the merger. It may take a few years to build that membership up to a decent level again. So, although a long term solution it may not be, its still a decent, professional solution to provide immediate coverage when needed the most. A perfect example would be to have you google up my county and see what resources we have in the 17 departments we have here. In those 17 departments we have 2 trucks; both 95' rear mount tower ladders located centrally in the county. Not all 17 have actual rescue trucks with hydraulic rescue tools and rescue equipment, I would probably say 10 do (guessing, a lot of them are getting new equipment and moving stuff around lately and I dont have accurate info yet). For us, we depend on AMA agreements, and we update them annually as needs change. The first year in this department we had 6 interiors, by the end of that year we had 7 more join, and now we are down to 8 currently (2 years later). Manpower fluctuates drastically around here. One year we could more than handle the initial attack on our own until MA arrives, others we desperately need AMA to arrive with us in order to get the initial attack line in operation, and have done so a few times. As officer I have seen a mixed attack team more than once (one of ours and two from AMA department). But this has been normal for years, since long before I moved up here from Long Island. I came from a department who very rarely EVER called for MA to a department that relies on it for a majority of the calls we respond too. Do I agree that its OK to do it that way? No. But in order to get help there fast, what else can we do without years of political BS, arguing over district lines and station locations (for mergers), and what equipment is kept where and who is in charge........Id rather just keep bringing these AMA agreements to the county chiefs meeting every year and review them with our AMA chiefs and sign them over a coffee and a hand shake. Then we can focus our attentions on recruitment and retention efforts, which is also done with other departments in a joint effort.

This is kind of a lousy way to look at this response. It may just be my experience in the fire service, but too many of us look at automatic fire alarms as bogus runs, or nothing to worry about. This department may not have enough manpower to handle structure fires and as a result they make sure they have it for fire alarms, because, why would a fire alarm activate usually?? Because of smoke or fire right? Its not always going to be a false alarm. This department would rather be prepared in case it is a fire. Whats wrong with that? I used to agree with this but it doesnt teach people anything lasting. Look at 9/11 and the outpooring of support firefighters received for months after it, because of the major loss of life. What about now? Years later? Everyone forgets over time. And lets look at how many firefighters die because of cancer, yet we still refuse to wear our air masks for every fire, including car fires and overhaul at structure fires? Loosing firefighters doesnt send any message other then grief.

Im fearful of getting any fires in the next few days, our manpower is already thin, with this heat we will drop like flies, (more emphasis on the overweight bunch like myself) but my department doesnt feel the need to have rehab or the ladies bring us refreshments... Stay safe in this heat gang, watch each other and keep hydrated.

If I am correct THIS is what it should say, yes? NYS Certifications recognize the attainment of prescribed levels of training in specific disciplines, through the completion of NYS Fire Training or Code Enforcement training. Certain NYS Certifications are required for career firefighters, Fire Protection Specialists, and Code Enforcement Officials in the State, while others are "voluntary". NYS FIREFIGHTER RECRUIT I | Top of the Page Designed For: All fire service personnel Required Fire Service Training: Basic Firefighter (01-05-0006) or Firefighting Essentials (01-05-0023) and Fire Behavior and Arson Awareness (01-01-0012),Intermediate Firefighter (01-05-0057) or Initial Fire Attack (01-05-0027), andLocal Rules and Regulations, Policies and Procedures, and Right to Know information.NYS FIREFIGHTER RECRUIT II | Top of the Page Designed For: All fire service personnel Prerequisite: Firefighter Recruit I Required Fire Service Training: Truck Company Operations (01-05-0046) or Ladder Company Operations (01-05-0029),Apparatus Operator - Pump (01-05-0005) or Pump Operator (01-05-0037),Accident Victim Extrication Training (01-04-0001), andHazardous Materials First Responder Operations (01-09-0071). NYS FIREFIGHTER | Top of the Page Designed For: All fire service personnel Prerequisite: Firefighter Recruit II Required Fire Service Training: Recruit Firefighter Training ( Career Academy) (01-05-0038) orRescue Technician - Basic (01-04-0032) or Rescue Operations (01-04-0029),Incident Command System (01-11-0023),Basic Wildland Fire Suppression (01-05-0007),Inspection of Existing Structures (02-06-0008),Standard first aid or equivalent, andCardiopulmonary resuscitation, andCandidate Physical Ability Test (CPAT).http://www.dhses.ny....ications.cfm#10