firemoose827

Schoharie County, 45 minutes west of Albany NY. Located in our County Jail yard where our dispatch center is located. We keep our county vehicles and equipment there until our new Training center is built, then this engine will be for the training center I hear.

Whats the big deal? The bathroom has no seat belts and is no where I want to be when the fecal matter hits the fan...cause than the fecal matter will be all over me!! (JK, ) The article stated that they encountered turbulence and all passengers were required to return to their seats and buckle their seat belts...What belt was this dude supposed to use? Toilet Paper? I think the airlines were wrong, the flight attendant should have remained in her employee jump seat, shes getting paid, isnt she? So she sits in the seat provided for the employees. If they are uncomfortable than they ( Flight Attendants) should take it up with the airlines and get better seats provided for them, not kick out a passenger and send them to the "head" for the flight without seat belts. It was dangerous. The pilot probably has a "Thing" for this flight attendant and so she got her way.

Has anyone heard of the new forcible entry tool by Stanley Tools? Its called the "FUBAR" ( not making this up, its in this months issue of fire engineering!) Here is a link to the web site... "FUBAR" Forcible Entry Tool by Stanley Tools I think that people are spending too much time in areas that don't really need improvement. Irons is all I will ever grab or need for most fire ground work. Why dont people spend time improving Air Packs, or Turnouts that will be lighter and more vented yet still provide the protection we need? Also, Is this the first Firefighting tool Stanley ever made? I thought it was interesting to see them make a tool for us, they have great carpentry tools but i have never seen any firefighting tools. Thought this was interesting. Whats everyones thoughts on this tool? Stay Safe Moose

Congratulations brother on the new baby!! Cherish these next few months cause they will go fast! Best of luck to you all. Moose

Well...I had to go pretty fast to generate the juice needed to get the light to go and ended up passing out half way there and didnt make the call, so now I have a candle in a blue dome! Yah brother, but than you use the 250 bucks in gas to get to the calls, meetings and drills!!! Thats not a bad thing though, those $10 gas cards, I would try and figure something else out though instead of one for every call you attend. I would figure on one for every 5 calls, or one for every 2 calls and a drill you attend, something to cut back on the overall expense for the squad cause ours does an average of 700 calls a year and we have members that make about 90% of those calls...could you imagine the costs in that!?!?

AMEN to THAT brother!!! Im so tired of this senseless paid/vs volly thing that ALWAYS pops up in just about every discussion. Someone can start a discussion about washing a TRUCK and someone would start the stupid argument!! Lets keep it friendly brothers... Stay Safe and buy a Hybrid Vehicle!! (I put a tear drop light on the handlebars of my ten speed) Moose

How else are explorers supposed to learn? Isnt one of our jobs to train our younger members so they know what they are doing, or would you rather just let them charge in without any training? Educate our younger members so they know, thats why they are members of this site and I give them tons of credit for seeking the knowledge.

The one quote said it perfectly...Something is going very wrong with the worlds morals. How can people do things like this? It makes me sick just thinking about it. I hope the girl and her kids are all OK and can be helped through this mess healthfully and safely.

I just dont agree with some of the features on this thing...Nail puller??? What the hell would we need a nail puller for when you have a cut-off saw, or a good pair of irons. The hydrant and spanner wrenches...These are needed by the operator and the hydrant man, not the interior crew who is more than likely the ones to be grabbing this tool. From what I gathered in the web site this was first created for demolition in construction and a lot of contractors swear by it. I just dont know how effective this will be in the hands of a firefighter. Maybe we, as a group of concerned EMTBravo members and firefighters, should send a request for a few of these things to be sent to us for a hands on demonstration?? Hey Seth, how about starting a products testing division?

Our department bought us some Wild land gear last year. We have 2 sets on the brush truck and 10 sets on the rescue. We wear those, helmets and whatever gloves float your boat. I know when I took wild land firefighting, the teacher, who is a forest ranger, stated that the only thing required to be worn at brush fires are Long sleeve work shirt, denim pants or other thick pants like carharts, work boots, goggles, helmet. Up until last year we were wearing our turnouts, but thankfully our dept got the wild land gear, its great.

I wondered that myself when I got it from the secret list. May he rest in peace, his job is over and he did it well.

Rest In Peace Firefighter Remling. May all of your family and friends take comfort in knowing we are all here for them in any way we can be. My condolences to all the Bravo members affected by this tragic loss, whatever you need ask me.

Good Points by both of you. I agree, the IC system is there for a reason and should be used at all incidents effectively. Accountability, unfortunately, is looked upon by many to be an inconvenience and too much work to keep track of all the tags and crews. But sadly, if done right realy isnt that hard. I agree that the accountability should have been implemented on scene instead of taking the crews out completely. And it is a shame they needed to involve the media. Sadly, a lot of people feel they will help the situation by bringing it to the community and getting their input...But thats what community meetings are for.

I dont know if this will help everyone or not. But I used to have all sorts of problems loading on to EMTBravo, ALL sites, but that was with Internet Explorer 7. I have downloaded Firefox for free, and that has never given me ANY problems at all and I have never had a problem with getting into Bravo since. Could this be the problem for some of us? I will keep you posted if I ever do have problems but so far its been a week and I have had no problems.

It is bad here is Schoharie County. We have had several severe brush fires and TONS of smaller ones already. The southern end of our county seems to be hit the hardest, they had one fire that lasted 1 1/2 days involving 50-100 firefighters, and our Forest Rangers. Everyone refresh your brush fire skills, use the lightweight brush gear, stay hydrated and hope this passes soon! Stay Safe Moose

I wear my sweater all the time. (My long sleeve shirt doesnt fit right now.. ) I just wish it WERE me you saw on the cruise ship...But sadly, the only boat I will be going on any time soon is the quarter machines at wal-mart!!!

Congratulations Jim, I look forward to working with you, enjoy the promotion!!! Moose

Joe... Just wanted to point out something before its taken WAY outa context here!!! I never mentioned volunteer. I mentioned one career dept responding MA to another career dept and the significance of taking orders from another officer in that other dept. Just a curious question of mine I developed after reading this topic. Just wanted to prevent the inevitable from happening!!!! Stay Safe all.

First, I definitely see what Joe and the others are saying when it comes to earning the respect of the crew and starting all over again. But I just have an interesting question to throw out to you all, JUST SOMETHING to ponder and not start a riot because like Mr. Coppola mentioned this has been an excellent topic with minimal tension. So, here it goes... You all mention that a fire Captain from one dept must earn the respect of the crews in another dept before being considered for promotional consideration and go through all the same stuff the home crews must...Thats understandable to a point. But here is my question. Does this mean that if you, a career dept, goes mutual aid to another career dept to a huge fire you would not respect the orders of the other officers on scene? Because in my eyes its the same thing we are talking about. If your an Engine Lieutenant and you and your 4 man crew are assigned to report to a Deputy Chief from your neighboring dept, do you respect that Deputy Chiefs Knowledge and orders? Of course you would because its the Incident Command system and you follow orders. Wouldnt this be the same? I mean the Officer transferring from one dept to the other. Respect is earned, I agree, as I see these issues on a daily basis myself, but couldnt the officer have a chance to earn the respect of the crews? Just something to think about, or be considered my Meager contribution to the discussion. Joe, Good luck on your promotion brother!!

Very well put by both of you. Some of these posts sound more like my Grandmother always picking things apart and being negative about everything and not praising the good in anything. The brothers made a great stop, they worked hard, and no one got hurt.

Agreed. They made an excellent stop and saved the main portion of the house. Thats what should matter. Your 100% correct brother! If this was a Boston fire they would be praising the operator for thinking outside the box and positioning the ladder perfectly!!!! Great Point!! PEOPLE... Someone took the time to post some pictures of an incident to share with us and comment on in a respectful way. KEEP THE COMMENTS CLEAN AND PROFESSIONAL...or they will be removed.

Great Shots. Looked like the brothers Stopped it from spreading into the main part of the house, good stop guys.

I think he mis-interpreted that Chris. The only thing I can remember from my EMS Captain days was we were told that if you have the lights on, the siren must also be on. We couldnt just run the warning lights as a precaution, we had to have them both. SO maybe thats what he meant too, but, who knows!! What about the response classifications?? Anyone else use them? We have the Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, and Echo responses, Echo being the worst case scenario and Alpha being a stop for coffee on the way type deal. Whatever happened to just getting there as fast and safe as you can and determining whats going on? But that might be another topic also, sorry, didnt mean to steal the thread!

I agree with you there brother. Responding units should use common sense more often, if you have a unit on scene already than you should step it down and just get there. The same with radio transmissions but thats a separate topic all together! And as for the point of standing in someones station...There shouldnt even be an argument, lights and sirens are not needed. The reason you are standing in someones station is to cover any additional calls they may have during their fire. If anything happens before you arrive at their station than you can light them up, but responding hot to stand in, than turning the lights off to back into their station to me is just plain asinine. Its happened before where our driver passed someone on the road lights and sirens, and the person actually arrived at our neighbors station still behind us when we turned our lights off and backed into their bay. The driver walked over and had a "Chat" with our driver, I stayed out of it. Well put and simple enough, yet there are still officers out there that keep making up their own responses. Instead of saying "On scene, All other units return to quarters" they tell them to "Respond Incident Under Control", or "Respond at your discretion" (thats my favorite one to hear) Does that mean the driver can respond balls to the wall lights and sirens, passing people? And they even have the excuse, "Well the officer said to respond at my discretion..." It should be simple...If you are on scene and the incident is stable and you need no additional resources than return the responding units to their quarters. But what these days is simple anymore.... Good points by all.

Its just a typical case of "CYA", Im sure the gloves are still fine and will protect you but in todays litigious society you need to CYA from laws. Based on whats posted here I would buy a pair if I were in the market for gloves...If I were allowed to that is!