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on the flip side, I can not even count how many times I have had to more PD cars that were parked in the way of fire operations.... sometimes we all need to think about were we park emergency rigs, and the effects it many have on others....

being that I had to stay behind " In case our tanker was call to another job ", I would like to know more about the tanker Ops... how many fill sites were there ? how many ponds were used ? how many supply lines down the driveway ? how many pond drafting engines ? total of actual working tankers ? ( not standby units )... you know the typical tanker questions us tanker geeks ask ... any pics of the tanker ops ?

great pics, but I would love to see some shots from inside... the pump room, pump panel, some of the piping ( I can imagine how they must have to lay it out ), the engine room...

We tried to use it for tanker operations at a structure fire in Yorktown, and it was not the best idea... Tanker ops, from the Pond site, to fill sites were spread over many hilly miles, and the 5 tankers, drafting engine and pond command had no communications...

come on now, that's not a good example, our 1984 Mack handled very well when the new Seagrave came in. I am sure many old timers out their can make the older rigs run like a charm, and pump like a champ !!! Yes, the newer rigs are nice, allot of bells and whistles, but a well qualified operator can make an older rig work well...

WOW, this guy is rather rough !!! I like it and wish all of the members luck with it....

Being one involved in a fire truck roll over, the only injury I got was from my partner ( driver ) landing on me.... since that day, I do travel in the back of the engine without the belt while dressing, only to belt up, once the gear is on... as a driver, I ALWAYS wear the belt, and require everyone with me to be belted up... I do not want to be hit from flying Fire Fighters.... without my seatbelt on, chances are REAL GOOD, my head would of bounced off the road as the passenger window hit the blacktop... I also hand to promise my KIDS, I would ALWAYS wear it in the future..

just judging from the camera view of the ground, I don't think the bowstring are the trusses used... it appears the roof line is flat, or with a slight pitch... bowstring deal with an arch to help support the load... ( ie, bowl alleys ) .... and if that was the case the front parapet may be taller to hide it... but I could be wrong !!

yeah, I would also assume it was wood truss construction... if someone finds out, let us know...

hmmmmmmm, here in Croton we try to use the Tanker for rear traffic blocker, angledout and away from the accident ... allot of weight and its big and defensive.... the picture is nice, but " in my own opinion " I would like to see the ladder out further over the white dotted line, at least the same distance if not more the the engine... as the traffic is pushed away from the accident, people will tend to look left and drift in the direction they are looking, by having the ladder back, they are allowing vehicles to get closer so see more, an once they are past they ladder the EMS rig, with rear enter is open and exposed.. maybe even have the bus between the two FD units and the ladder in the second lane, thus boxing off the whole area, and allowing for the bus room to get out.. vests are nice, but where are the guys in turn out gear ?

Maybe the fire flare ups down at the eaves were from the roof/decking being knocked back in sides the structure... once the hole was open ( even a small amount ) the chimney effect took place and heat/smoke/fire vented through the roof, as they banged the hole cuts into the attic, the flow of h/s/f was slowed ( blocked ) forcing the fire to flare up below and find a way out... maybe...

hmmmmmmmmmmmm do I hear transfer ??? lots of open road for the bike !!!

No question, that a welded steel bumber is stronger then a chrome bumper, and if it was my choice I would have that also... but the comment was about how it looks and it ablity to add safety... plus from the looks of the picture, it looks the bumper in question is a chrome bumper, with the yellow/red tape on it...

I'll stick with the chrome bumper .... before you know it, our fire appartaus is going to look like a wood chipper ( with all the warning labels )

heres an question.... what is the roof construction ??? looks like your normal 30 year architectural shingles, but over what ??? how many layers??? what is the decking ? I'm sure 3/4 inch cdx will put up a good fight to the blunt end method... also the rafter spacing... when the ax hits plywood over a normal rafter, ( 16 inch spacing ) ... life gets tough.. 1/2 cdx, 24 inch spacing, I am sure it will work well...

Not sure, just a guess.... but from jobs I have been on they might be glue lam beams or steel beams in the shape of an arch... ( in this case maybe 2x12's stacked and glued into this arch ). Then either wood rafters or steel web joists run between them.... as long as the anchor systems are structurally sound they should be very strong... I have noticed on several glue lam jobs, when they are used as exposed posts, they tend to rot out near the steel anchors, so I would check them... over time and upgrades, if they were wood, they might of been wrapped with either siding material or a sheet metal wrap... can we get more details on this ?

Yes, one was used this year at the Hackley School fire, at the #1 fill site for the tankers.. with this fitting, we were able to supply and hook up to fill multiple tankers without time wasted. It became a smooth operation, one of the better tankers ops I have seen in a long time... Croton actually put one into the tankers budget for next year, so that we will always have one to use....

I've moved allot of water of over the years, and I'll stay with the 3000 gal tanker system any day over the 8000 gal tractor trailer jobs... in this county, moving them around could be tougher then you think.... with all the POV at scenes, local traffic, other appartus, getting our tanker through them is tough enough.... as far as the lower county and water main breaks, hire a water company with tractor trailers to come in and baby sit the town... enough with the County should buy these, before long no firefighter will be able to afford to live in this county...

Automatic or standard transmission ???

ok, who do you have to talk with from Con Edison to get one of these boards ??? anyone have contact information ??

If your from Armonk, check with some of your members... At the last meeting there where at least 4 guys I saw from Armonk.... if not, the next meeting will be at the training center, the last Tuesday of the month, 7 pm..

Come on, Ridin Dirty ??????

Engine 119 was just delievered and one of the guys who came out to the Seagrave plant with us, was our Village's head mechanic. I believe each one of our committee members would agreed, he was 100 % helpful and a very valuable person to have there... I would recommend if you have a Town mechanic, get him involved... ( Thanks Martin G. )

would like to hear more about this, what type of air packs ??? was it a mask failure or a regulator ? if anyone finds out more, please share .

what about my favorite..... " cherish the moment !! "