IzzyEng4

Even better, remember ON SCENE which usually ran on Channel 5 and 11 around 11pm? That was a good show too.

The low hose bed crazy has finally hit the manufacturers as a mainline design!!!! I'm being a little sarcastic because all the fire apparatus manufacturers forgot about hose bed height when the whole compartment space issue and cookie cutter body designs came out and pushed them on us. I know my truck has a rescue body but we still have a 60 inch ground to hose bed level height with a decent step size and height. I think it is good that E-One is making a standard offering here like many older trucks used to be built. Trucks are getting higher off the ground because of DOT weight requirements that this is overlooked and we the taxpayers, fire districts and departments that have to raise funds to purchase apparatus have to pay extra for since this option is "a custom design"! I think it good and other companies should follow.

I think E-4 was replaced with a E-One only a few years back. Don't hold me to this statement, I may be wrong.

You all don't have C-MED regions out there and a State OEMS office that regulates EMS response times huh?

Just an FYI, Greenwich is not a trauma facility under CT statues but if that is the closest hospital, a patient can go there for stabilization before sending out to a trauma facility. As for general medical, MIs, ect. they should be open to all categories. Hope this helps out. I'm not familiar with WC hospitals but I know WMC is the big one out there. I know that up here in CT Yale-New Haven Hospital and Bridgeport Hospital are a co-op hospital. If they area in need for help then they should look into a co-op with another (trauma) hospital. A question for you all since I'm not familiar, is WMC's supported by the county or is it private?

Goose I agree and disagree here. If there is a protocol and directive that is in place with the dispatch center, it must be followed. We have one where I work and the first thing to do in any situation where a 911 is received from a hospital about patient care in the hospital is to contact that hospital first. (Law enforcement, fire and hazardous material incidents area a whole different breed and we are not going to touch that here.) As stated before there are COBRA violations and if you think to use a "CYA" approach without following the protocols that should be set up, then you as a dispatcher area in violation and your actions will not hold up in a court of law. (See how ugly this gets? Confusing too.) Now they sent a police officer (two or three) because of this, I'm going to say disturbance for lack of a better term that escapes me though it really isn't, the police officers should have taken an approach that the woman was in the care of a hospital and they also should have not tried to remove her because she was there seeking help. Not the fact she had a violation as stated in the news articles, that can wait, obviously! Another thing is that every EMT and Medic here would question going to a hospital on a priority call for a patient / person called 911 for someone in the ER already. Does it make sense, no of course not. What has to happen here is; 1. Why did the woman not receive the proper care in the hospital she seeked help at. 2. Why did the police officers try to remove a patient from the hospital when she was in obvious dire need. 3. Though the 911 dispatchers did what they were supposed to do (explained the situation and we not rude at all as reported by many a new outlet) did they follow up with their protocols that are in place and contact the hospital to see what is the problem in the ER and make them aware of it. 4. If the person who called 911 was a Spanish speaking person who had difficulty with the language, why didn't they get a Spanish speaking dispatcher or use the "Language Line" that is nationally available to let the person speak in their native language to describe accurately the problem. Of course we can go on and on and on here for a long time. Unless you have worked as a 911 operator, it is hard for people that are not dispatchers to understand the protocols and operating procedures especially in the sense of this particular instance all the liability issues that area at had. Yes the hospital has a DUTY TO ACT (emphasis on the statement) and I'm sorry but they failed this woman! No doubt! If they are in the ER, you have to contact the ER charge nurse immediately and state what the problem is to her. Remember EMT's and Paramedics have no authority in a hospital when it comes to care after the transfer of care has been completed or the care of those who walk into an ER under thier own free will.

The white pumper is a Seagrave Waterfall series pumper. My company had a 1949 model almost similar except for the lighting placement and it was all red with gold leaf and had a 750 pump and a 300 (?) gallon tank. We had it from 1949 to 1962 when it was replaced. The Waterfalls if I am not mistaken were built from 1942 until 1952 when the 70th anniversary line replaced it as the main model offered.

WOW!!! She's a beauty. How long did it take to restore the rig?

You cannot take a patient out of a hospital via 911 period without proper discharging from any hospital. This law is federal and no local law can supersede it. It is one thing if the patient was outside the facility an on the ground of the hospital, then an ambulance can transport a patient to that hospital or another. If the patient is already in the care of a hospital care facility then the liability falls on the hospital. The problem here is that a call was placed to 911 from "third party" caller (I use this term since the person who called was at a phone away from the patient). The 911 dispatchers are not at fault and you can argue with anyone here that has worked in a 911 center that the dispatchers did do there job, they cannot send an ambulance to investigate a problem inside of a hospital facility. (Mind you I am not talking about convalescent homes, rehabilitation facilities or outpatient / doctor's offices just hospitals.) I will agree that the dispatchers should have used their terminology more wisely and also (if they didn't) get in contact with the hospital (either ER, security, et. al) to find out what the problem is. The problem lies only with the care (not) provided by the hospital personnel. They failed her, not the 911 dispatchers. But dispatchers have to remember what they say is recorded and will be take verbatim. I have come across this problem many times with intra facility 911 calls from a hospital and the first thing you need to do is determine where inside of the building they are and contact the hospital ASPA. If you send ANY outside medical response with out the authorization of the hospital then there is a major problem with liability issues. The only time an ambulance can take a patient to another hospital is by doing an inter facility transfer that is set up. If not, it will be considered kidnapping (believe it or not). Also too we are only getting one side of the story here because the media is quick to jump on something we all do wrong. I am not saying that there was a good possibility that the hospital didn't provide proper care or investigated the patient's problem correctly. Yes it is a fine line about this buy the be all, end all is that you cannot take a person out of a hospital or send an ambulance for such a thing.

You known that 4-1500 is one of only a few pumpers in existence that have a right-side pump panel. ALF used to have this configuration up until the 1950's I think before they moved it to the left side (present day style).

A lot of companies due, mainly special orders for the old rescue squads. Lion and Cairns are two companies off the top of my head.

To me its a matter of preference. I was taught to be a driver / mpo when we were still using dual three inch supply lines and used out legs to feet the incoming pressure from a hydrant. When my company was finally issued 5 inch supply lines, we continued to use the left side intake when using a forward lay. To me having the intake for five inch on either side of the pump is a matter of preference and also an accessibility issue with apparatus positioning and the space required to hook up a feeder in certain situations. I really don't think their is a difference at all. Your a pump operator, your going to get wet regardless.

I have a question. The 11 on the front sides of the truck, is that supposed to represent your 11th truck in service with the company since you guys organized?

I've been going up there to see if I could catch them but I think they have been in the building. They haven't been outside every time I've been up that way.

Well here is my take and I do like the comments expressed here. Its the law to wear seat belts, so you have to wear them. OK so that's a given, but its not illegal to smoke or use tobacco products so how is banning them not to use them at all legal? Do they ban the use of alcohol off duty? No. We cannot drink alcohol on the job so why don't they just say you can smoke on the job either. I know its a health issue but if you area a grown adult who make their own decision that you want to smoke then fine. You have to live with it, trust me I'm a former 3 pack a day smoker who quit cigarettes seven years ago, though I may have an occasional cigar one in a while (I don't inhale them but still its a risk). Well thank you insurance companies of this one, because I feel that they are dictating the way you chose to live. If memory serves me correctly, I am not 100% sure about this, but I do remember some sort of law suit where a firefighter who had cancer, was denied claims by his insurance because he was a smoker, this was before any on-smoking no tobacco policies were instated. Anyone remember this? I just feel that an employer trying to run your life on your own time, when not working is wrong. Its a personal decision and what ever one you make, then you will have to knowningly suffer the consequences yourself. Just my 2 cents.

Date: 6/7/07 Time: 05:12 Location: Elizabeth Street and Garden Place Frequency: 453.0500 Units Operating: Derby FD, Shelton Tower 7, Ansonia Engine 4 Description Of Incident: Working structure fire in a two and 1/2 story unoccupied wood frame structure, heavy fire upon arrival. Mutual aid requested for additional aerial ladder from Shelton (Tower 7), and Engines from Ansonia for station coverage. Ansonia Engine 4 re-directed to the scene for manpower (orignally going to Derby Co. 2), Ansonia Engine 3 to Derby Co. 2 and Ansonia Engine 5 to Derby Co. 1. Seymour Engine 11 requested to relocate to Ansonia Company 3 by AFD chiefs for standby. Under control approximately at 06:45. Writer: IzzyEng4

I was just curious what happened to the Snorkle articulating tower baskets? I know ALF has the rights to Tele-squit and Snorkle. Did they stop offering the "original" tower ladder design or did someone else purchase the rights?

I know there area a lot of units still out there but ALF doesn;t seem to be building the Snorkels new anymore and most of the units are re-mounted on new chassis. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I love the old snorkels especially watching Chicago work with theirs. I think the Bronto and Sky-arm are the next generation too. What do you all think???

Flahs Flood warning now in affect for New Haven COunty

Tornado Warning TORNADO WARNING...CORRECTED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE UPTON NY 1246 PM EDT TUE JUN 5 2007 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... NORTHWESTERN NEW HAVEN COUNTY IN SOUTHERN CONNECTICUT... * UNTIL 115 PM EDT... * AT 1241 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR SOUTHBURY... MOVING NORTHEAST AT 25 MPH. * THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR... BEACON FALLS BY 1255 PM... NAUGATUCK BY 100 PM... WATERBURY BY 105 PM... WOLCOTT...CHESHIRE AND 9 MILES WEST OF MERIDEN BY 115 PM... IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO...THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING NICKLE SIZE HAIL AND DESTRUCTIVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS. IF YOU ARE CAUGHT OUTSIDE...SEEK SHELTER IN A NEARBY REINFORCED BUILDING. AS A LAST RESORT...SEEK SHELTER IN A CULVERT...DITCH OR LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS. THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. LAT...LON 4148 7333 4136 7315 4152 7278 4165 7297 ---take from the weatherchannel.com

UGGG Again????? Thank god my room in in the basement!

Is Engine 4 becoming a spare?

From what I was told was that the roof ladders were kept on the outside to prevent the weigh of the extension ladder from warping or bending the roof ladder. Now mind you I am talking about when all ladders were wood. So this explanation could be valid. Another as the way the old style ladder racks were made and they didn;t allow the roof ladder to be stored on the inside, though with a little fudging, it could be stored that way. Another reason that I see is that you can grab the roof ladder behind the extension ladder without realizing it when taking them off the rack if the extension if first. My old Essentials book only states: "Ladders carried on pumpers are sometimes mounted so that it is necessary to remove the complete assembly of roof and extension ladders before they are separated." (hence the roof ladder first) "Unless the roof and extension ladders have individual brackets and holding devices, one ladder may fall from the apparatus when the other is removed. For safety reasons, consideration should be given to providing a separate device for each ladder." Now with this said, having the roof ladder out first helps us grab both ladders and set them on the ground and preventing them from falling. Like I had said before, in the back seems to me to be a greater risk in accidentally grabbing the roof ladder if behind the extension improperly and causing it to fall from your hands on a side mount. With out new pumper we built the ladder rack on edge inside the body of our truck and both ladders have separate "bays" to eliminate this problem. I does make sens though having the extension ladder out first since that is one one we use mostly as an engine comapny, on the smae rack.

Just an FYI for everybody, all new emergency vehicles have the seat-triggers for belts in them. I believe this is either a federal DOT and NFPA standard now.

Date: 6 / 3 / 07 Time: 20:09 Location: Academy Hill Rd at Ridge Road, Derby, CT Frequency: 453.0500 Units Operating: DERBY: 4-Kilo-9, Engine 13, Engine 16, Rescue 18, FD-1, FD-2, FD-3, 501, 503 VEMS Medics: 5-Zulu-5, 5-Zulu-3 Ansonia 2-Bravo-9 & 2-Bravo-7, Seymour 2-Tango-7, AMR 5-Charlie-44(Woodbridge medic), 5-Charlie-16 & 5-November-8 (AMR medic ambulances), Shelton 2-Victor-30, Derby Police Description Of Incident: Firecomm alerted by Derby PD of two car head on MVA with extrication needed. E-13, E-16, R-18, 4-Kilo-9, 5Z5 dispatched, Derby FD-1 (chief) confirmed extrication, total of five patients. Three patients taken to Yale-New Haven, 1 to St. Raphael's and 1 to Bridgeport hospitals. 4K9 w/ 5Z5, 2B7 w/ 5Z3, 2B7 w/5C44 transported ALS, 5C16 (medic) cleared 2T7 to transport BLS. 2V30 & 5N8 returned to service do to closer units. Writer: IzzyEng4