IzzyEng4

Date: 1-31-2010 Time: 11:01 Location: 46 Oakcrest Road Frequency: 158.7825 - DPL 311 Units Operating: Description Of Incident: E-41, E-42, E-51, E-51, Tank-43, Tank-33, Tk-46, R-44, R-54, Car-1, Car-2, Car-3, Oxford EMS, Seymour Tank-19 & E-11 (RIT), Southbury FD for two tankers. 11:01 - Dispatched to 46 Oakcrest Road for a fire in the basement. Dispatch stating resident out of structure, out of breath reporting fire in basement. 11:03 - 401 in scene, nothing showing from outside, taking command, long driveway. 11:04 - CSP reporting confirmed structure to dispatch. Car 1 on scene. 11:05 - Car 1 one confirming working fire, Seymour for RIT (E-11) and Tanker 19, Southbury for two tankers. 11:06 - Dispatch re-toning for working structure fire. 11:09 - Switching to Fireground 1 (unknown frequency) per command. Port-a-tanks being set up at the street. 11:11 - Command reporting homeowner with injuries. 11:15 - Engine 51 to water source 11:23 - Command requesting PW for a sand truck, icy road conditions and EMS transporting patient with burns. Dispatch reporting second ambulance en-route for standby (poss Seymour EMS as Oxford only has on ambulance currently) Writer: IzzyEng4

That is correct and it was widely reported on a bunch of other sites as well. FDNY's contract specifically stated they wanted the truck's cab or body to be made with either stainless steel or aluminum and Pierce only does galvanized steel for the cabs (or vice versa). Pierce wanted to bid but since no exceptions were going to be accepted, Pierce back out of the bidding process. That was one of the reasons out of several why they didn't bid. I'm going off the top of my head with what I read and can't remember exactly so please correct me if there is further information or if I'm wrong.

i would be In for the app, i usually check out Bravo on my browser on the iPhone. i thInk the maIn thIng that would be great about the app would be for the iNcident Alerts wIth a push notification, maybe even for PMs too. (Yah my iNner geek is messIng with the reverse case "i"'s)

Well then, I'll be the bucket boy in your corner then! Let's go! I just can't believe in this day and age politicians want to spend more money on stuff that is not proven to work and not spend half as much to keep a current, up-to-date and proven system that works on line. Maybe I should run for senate........................

I tried to do a search for the Mount Horeb truck as it was discussed here before on the forums but I couldn't find it. But again, a waste of a lot of money on all that emergency warning equipment. And as I said before that truck has to be an electrical nightmare!!! There is no reason to have duplicates of sirens, and over abundance of lights. Hell I don't want to go deaf and blind when I see it then crash into it because it made me deaf and blind!!

Or another blackout to prove they work when no one has a cellphone or cordless phone that works!

East Hartford

And they are called running boards for a reason, as the truck passed by the guys would run up to the truck and jump on to the sides, thus "running boards". Kind of an interesting name huh??? Ah the good old days of safety where it meant if you didn't get hurt, you were safe!!!

Oh man, I could go a few places with this one................. where to begin...... Glad to hear the "cherry" was broken on the rig and it performed the way it should.

Date: 1-25-2010 Time: 21:00 approx Location: 36 Fairfield Ave. Frequency: 151.4450 Units Operating: NFD Weather Conditions: Unk Description Of Incident: Reported fire at location, units arriving with fire throughout third floor of structure. Reporters: Writer: IzzyEng4

The JO and JOX series from American LaFrance was designed in the late 1930's as the first "cab-forward" design and was only available for aerial ladders (only mid-mounts 75' to 100'). Only a few were made but the design lead to the design creation of the 700 Series in 1945/1946 leading to the 700s full scale production by 1947. The JO and JOX only had front seats and there were no jumpseats like on later cab-forward apparatus. The turntable was located directly mounted behind the cab. The whole idea was to have a truck with a smaller wheelbase while beign able to have a 100' aerial ladder on a single chassis, thus cutting down the overall lenght of the truck. I'm sure Angelo has a lot more information on the JO and JOX series than I do. Also there is a JOX aerial up at the Firemen's museum in Hudson on display. One interesting piece of equipment for the day.

Lakeville is a village in the town of Salisbury, CT, which is the northwestern most town in the state of CT. It shares the boarder with Dutchess County and also with western Mass. Also the "tri-state maker" is located here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisbury,_Connecticut (cut & paste this line, otherwise the hotlink will not work for some reason.) Website Under Construction: http://www.lakevillehose.org/index.htm

Thanks for posting this rig because its the 'younger brother" of the one I saw a few year back in Nebraska at Smeal. This was the rig I was remembering.

Simple and its across all racial heritages when I say this, "You don't need to study or go to school to do a firemen's job." Seems like that's the attitude for some people now a days. Isn't it amazing that everytime we take a step forward in this country we take three steps back? I don't care what ethnic or religious back ground you are, a guy or a girl, either you can do the job or can't, thus you can either pass the test or not. Plain and simple, black and white on the paper.

I wonder if LACo FD will use one of these for their forestry dozers?

Rest in Peace.

No problem Tank, I figured that is where you were going with your question. I would assume that there are a bunch of different types of systems out there that can be used. I would assume also that these systems would be totally separate and independent from the engine, but I could be wrong.

I'll do my best to answer some of the questions as I'm not authoritarian on the topic and only going by what I have been told. The information and what I have seen was from Smeal when I was out at their plant doing inspections on the truck my fire company has in service now. When I was there, one of the vehicles going to Canada where most of the winter it's below freezing (I don't remember what town the pumper was going to) had an enclosed pump compartment completed with a separate heating system in the enclosure along with the doors. It was not off of the exhaust system, ect. as this was a custom spec for that particular department. The enclosure was also insulated on the inside and also below the frame rails (it was an interesting construction to say the least). As far as the pump compartment doors, the whole idea is basically to prevent snow, ice sand, dirt, ect. from building up on the pump panel area while responding to an alarm. Also since the pump area is heated and basically closed up, it will retain some (not a lot) heat on the panel and the plumbing, thus preventing the possibility of the plumbing and caps freezing. Tanker10Eng, a heater is not part of the engine's cooling system. A cooling system is for what it literally states, to cool the pump while in operation and also to prevent the engine from overheating. This heater is solely for the purpose of keeping the pump warm and prevent it from freezing. Now with that said, I don't know if these departments keep their pumpers "wet" or they are "dry". Either way, there is a fear of the pump and plumbing from freezing. As for if there are systems taken off the exhaust system of the truck, I am not sure if there is a system made like that, usually heaters are a separate unit so they can be turned on and off. Sage, yes circulating the pump / keeping water moving does help prevent freezing but these systems are not just for while pumping. These systems are made primarily to keep pumps from freezing to and from the firehouse and have them in an opeational state. Nothing is worse than responding to an alarm and finding out your pump froze along the way to the alarm during the XXX miles and time traveled then you can't move water to put out a fire.

You forgot got rid of the hand pumpers and went to steam and also got id of the horses and switched to a motor engine first!

Thanks for searching it. I couldn't use the feature do to being on the mobile web unit.

Sorry I forgot to make an exception for PCFD's new engine!! That will be the best!!! (Not enough sucking up?????? LOL) (Just joking around folks!)

Hmmmm nice picture - Charger, Charger, member of my loser team on the ground crying, member of my loser team standing looking at the ground, Fast Charger, Big Charger, member of my loser team getting owned by the Big Charger and member of my loser team realizing he's not going to catch Fast Charger............................ But anyhow, I still can't believe the Jets pulled it off and played the way they did tonight. It's going to be an interesting Championship & Superbowl.

I love the line in the article about the FDNY ladder collapsing and killing a person. Trouble was if its the incident I was thinking of it was where the ladder failed while operating at a box and unfortunately a civilian that shouldn't have been walking there got killed. I wish someone would have fired back at her and say rather test it and have it fail at the firehouse rather than having it fail at a fire scene!!! Besides, knowing where the firehouse is, the stick being 75' at that station and where her house is, I highly doubt the guys in Milford even cam close to it.

The whole pump panel being enclosed idea started (on this continent) up in the northern US and Canada to prevent the pump from freezing during the bitter cold months of the year. I know of several manufacturers that have been constructing this style of pump panel (as well as enclosed pump operator controls in the cab). These modules were built with a heater around the pump housing and the doors were pretty much just added insulation and also for protection from ice, snow, ect. Other than that, there is no reason for a closed pump panel in my opinion. though it "may look cool" or give that "rescue pumper look" its not practical for general purposes. Also it does not add any other sort of protection to the pump or that area if the vehicles is involved in a side impact crash. Another thing is the added cost of more metal for the housing, the care and maintenance of the door, standard wear and tear of the doors (Same thing why I am against personally for the PUC, MVP and rear mount pumps. Its not worth the added aggravation in my opinion unless you are worried about your pump freezing as soon as you pull out of the barn.

Its a big rig and has been in service a long time now. I beleive it was already discussed here a long time ago but still it is a very interesting unit.