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Totally out of curiosity - do rigs have CO alarms in the cab? Not your job per se, but in general. I am not aware of any, but maybe a good idea....

Stay Safe Cogs

Somthing I have been thinking an awful lot about lately....given the rash of fires locally, most in suburban or rural areas, all have a common factor - lack of water! I have been to more than one fire where we are standing around waiting for more water.....WHY? IC's; why are we not calling MORE tankers SOONER in the incident? Why are we not being aggressive in getting water to the scene? Instead of calling for 2 tankers - why not call for 5? Go big early........ Any thought? (PS - this is not about any department or incident in particular - it is as general as you can be - QTIP!)

Really? THAT is what I am talking about!

Which is why I am a huge advocate of alarm assignments, intial and extra, and getting adequate water to the scene for the initial attack! I challenge all departments out there to re-evaluate their current assignments.....do you have enough water on the road on a first alarm to keep a fire with "a few rooms off' from being a future parking lot? And dont kid yourselves - having two 1000 pumpers, and a 2000 gallon tanker doesn't mean squat if they can't get off the floor in time.......

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................you guys are advocating being PROACTIVE instead of REACTIVE...... WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!? (Or how many leaders would take the steps mentioned above...?)

Just bumping this topic up - we have a few new members here who have has excellent input on other topics...plus I feel it is a VERY important topic to keep fresh in people's minds...you know...for the "Big One"...

Oh......it's....interesting looking, isn't it?

Pics of Irish Chevrons please

The worse this economy gets, the more the trucks will be needed......thats for sure! But nothing is going to soften the blow of fewer guys on the rigs..

T.O.F.B.??????? Taylor Oil Fire Brigade! LOL! Wish they called us - I was ready to go!

"Fire Deparrrtment".. "THERE'S A BAT IN MY HOUSE!" "Ma'aam...is the bat on fire?" "NO!" "You've got the wrong number ma'am..."

Class A is bought by the member in my department....the FD supplys the badges

Sigh....I hate this BS..... I for one...actually LOVE parades...I like to march in them...I like the brotherhood and comeraderie of them..I like putting on my Class A for a reason other than someone who died..I love beer...I love to hear my kids yelling "There's my Daddy!" as they point to me with their freinds...I love the pride associated with being a member of a department who routinely wins trophies... Parades are good. Are they a TRUE indicator of a department's fire and emergency mitigation skills? Nope.... Are some of the WJA rules outdated, nonsensical, and somewhat against proper firefighting? Yep...and I hate those rules....but it is what it is. 16Fire5...I don't know if they are "illegal", but most departments prefer "parade lays" for crosslays....and I for one don't like that..it is a pain to pull a "parade lay" off of these monster engines we spec these days...especially with gloves on.. In regards to hair, beards, and peircings...MY department, who is very serious about marching, will not let anyone on the street with facial hair, be it a goatee, fu-man-chu, or even stubble...it's a dry shave at line up or you can sit and watch. Long hair MUST be put up...we are serious about appearance...and yes...we get off of the floor routinely for alarms as well.. It is easy to sit back and say, "why do these departments get 30 guys on the street, but they can't get a peice off of the floor for a fire call?" Well...THOSE departments are the ones you see with 3, 4, or 5 guys on the street at parades. or just a rig with no guys marching....NOT every department has a ton of people who march..not every departmnet has a ton of people period. Not everyone who marches drinks either ....(I tend too... )....in fact, most departments do not even supply beer before the parade - just water to keep their guys hydrarted...which is a good reason to have friends in other departments...take a stroll, shoot the bull, and steal a beer! Perhaps hypocritical, I do not agree with taking a truck and a large portion of a membership out of the area for a parade..like Lake George..Nope...don't agree with that one bit..I think a rig should be in a position to be able to respond to an alarm if need be...but then again, do the Judges gig you if the crew has their turnout geat left in the cab???? Like them or not - parades are an important part of the Fire Service's history and romance....

Thats the problem with this world....instead of dealing with the trouble makers, the whole class has to put their heads down on the desk.... QTIP

BS posts...BS jobs...and hot jobs that would get an actual IA...dudes being lazy..

I dont know about a test, but you MODS should be to unleash the fury of your keyboards to the select offenders...warn once, then drop the hammer...it's been a long time since s good public banning!

Thinking about marching in a few?

They ALL come out of hiding for this Seth!

All in favor of bringin' it back, say AYE

I liked it - obvious abuses aside.

Cool.....very fun stuff.

Thanks....

Looks like no need to me....who wants extra weight and to be off balance when you are 3 stories up and would not be on air anyways? Good call by the roof crew in my experience.

LOL...Good answer...I deserve that! What is PC's first alarm level and 2nd alarm level of responses?