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Yeah for the NFPA and chevrons for ruining fire photography! :angry: Very unique rig indeed..any idea if this was the manufacturer or the department's brainchild? Will they be able to deploy a line as rapidly as the "old way"?

Please don't taint a good thread with such nonsense...

Surprised by the amount of helmet lights....I dont like 'em...I think they have a high potential for hanging up in wires, etc...except the garrity light.. Also - the Streamlight Survivor usually is angled good when duck walking or on a room, bent over using a saw...but there is no doubt the Power Plus I sling over my shoulder and wear at my right hip is my shining star..pun intended.

Today's builders ain't got nothing of those of yesteryear, thats for sure.

Overkill of what? He almost "overkILLED" a police officer! He was reckless and endangered the general public! As Chris stated, and it really opened my eyes...he COMMITTED no less than 21 OFFENSES.....

A little bit over the speed limit...too many blue lights..."rolling stops" at stop signs...yes, I agree. BUT RECKLESS driving - NO way - anyone who puts the public at risk desrves no courtesy.

SAD but true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!

It's not my problem, honestly, it is that particular district's. MY Chief leaves his buggy at the firehouse with the keys in it in case it is needed while he is gone. MY Deputy leaves his at home while he is at work, also available if needed, however, the keys are in his house, but accessible if need be. I can honestly say that neither is too enamored with having a buggy that they are possesive of them. We are pretty lucky.

Take home cars have long been part of the perks offered as part of compensation in the corporate world, both public and private sectors. This is used as a bargaining chip to attempt to get the best canidate for the position. Unfortunatly, in the volunteer fire world, this same perk is extended, HOWEVER, as we have seen ALL TOO OFTEN, THE BEST CANIDATE IS NOT ALWAYS THE CHOICE...FD elections are still a good old boy's popularity contest. (YET another topic for another thread, and one more instance where we can be our own worst enemy). I feel the most obvious case of abuse is the Chief Car parked at a train station while the Chief is at his job. He obviously can NOT respond quickly to an incident, if at all. That should be concern for his district.

Sad but true, for some I guess. Personally, it wouldnt change my thought or desire to be a Chief Officer...however, the increased liabilty associated with red lights and siren does concern me with personal auto insurance, but that is a different story. That said, I do wonder if the increased scrutiny is worth "free gas and a cool car", both from the public, and our own "brothers"..... I wouldnt need a fancy, large SUV or a quad cab pickup with a fancy cap and slide out command center either. Just something to get me there safely...after all, it's not the car that's importnant to the operation, it's the guy in it...

I beleive Chief staff cars should be taken out of district, to work, etc, if the operator can leave work/respond in a timely manner. I do not like when vollie Chiefs, who are career firemen, park there vollie marked car at their work firehouse. It's just bad business in my eye...no disrespect to these guys, I just think it is tacky.

This is something that I have discussed in the past, and honestly - IT BUGS THE CRAP OUT OF ME! I DESPISE the notion that a Past Chief (whom I have ALL THE RESPECT for in the world, once a Chief, ALWAYS A CHIEF), is made a Deputy Chief...like mentioned above, why? Thanks for your time and service, but pass the torch. Let the junior officers get the experience. They WILL come to you if they need help. Where I come from, the Deputy Chief is "Car 2", the second in Command....Chief, Deputy Chief, then Assistant or Station Chiefs....Past Chiefs are just that.....NOT an EX Chief, but PAST CHIEF. They go back to being a fireman, black hat with a gold leaf Past Chief shield...or sometimes appointed as Safety Officer.

I cracked up at Paul Blart too...classic for sure. Also - does it not matter to anyone that thsi agency/organization makes not attempt to hide or be conspicuous? The pics show them doing outreach with NYPD and FDNY, as well as operating at incidents. If they were not "legit" would they have all that access?

Camden perhaps? What a line of garbage!

Ahhh...gotcha. Thnaks.

I am sure that quints cost more money than engines. Perhaps had they saved some of that money by purchasing engines, and not the quints, they would have more money.. Maybe not..it was just a thought.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I wonder how many of those jobs could have been saved had the city run true pupmers instead of quints for each engine company?

Another point to bring up, as it was mentioned earlier in this thread in regards to pulling mutuail aid units to the scene. It is common to "stagger" or pull resources from different areas, which the majority of the time, makes sense so as to not deplete one township or city. I agree with this for the most part. However, during an incident such as this, a complex and critical situation, do you feel it might more prudent to use any or all appropriate resource in the area immediatly, then backfill with mutuail aid? meaning, don't skip units, call the closest units you need, then relocate units....

Hell I say we go back to Caprice wagons!

If there is any agency or department out there right now not sitting down and evaluating and re-writing their alarm assignments and SOP's for such an incident...shame on them! Yes, this could happen anywhere, and will again. Yes, there are very few areas of this COUNTRY that can generate a response as the NYPD and FDNY did - bravo to them (you, for the MOS here), in the time frame they did. Once again, a great example of why they are held in the highest esteem by people who "get it". It baffles me that some here have the balls to criticize their response... Seriously...I HOPE that Chiefs, Officers, and Admins alike are putting pen to paper and formulating a plan.

Most likely to avoid the common trend of responders and bystanders posting such pictures and videos on social networking sites.

What if we promise them "Tsunami Technician" t-shirts?