houlidsa

Or using the same information you can deduce that one Truck company can add almost as much vale as two Engine companies, just saying.... [8]Department A has 36 employees; three 3 person engines and one 4 person truck while department B 18 employees; three 2 person engines.

Didn't Mount Vernon purchase a few used mint condition Long Island rigs a years back?

A 6000 psi cascade will work, it is just that you will get a reduced number of fills. However unless their cascade in new (within the last 2-3 years) I highly doubt the containment is rated for 5500. Saying the containment unit is not rated for 5550 means that if a cylinder fails, the "explosion" may or may not be contained. There is not more air. There is the same amount of air as its minutes rated, it is just compressed into a smaller vessel. If they went from a 30' 4500 psi, to a 45' 5500 psi cylinder, this would be a little closer to accurate.

Saw this at a firehouse. A few pieces of pipe. One end capped, one end with a garden hose quick disconnect and a bunch of holes drilled in it.

Designed 10 years ago? You design stations with 25 years of growth in mind. I bet they do more and have more responsibilities than 10 years ago. Also I bet technology in the building sector is different, so they are most likely using dated methods which are also possibly less economical. I know this is an EMS station but in the last few years around the country firehouses are getting saunas and steam rooms in to reduce cancer. Why use science to increase employees' health and reduce future health costs.

That's the pre 2013 alarm. Back when each manufacturer had a proprietary alarms. NFPA wanted the sound to be universal for universal recognition.

The 95 db minimum was set because the sound is distorted by heat. So a PASS that is easily recognizable in the firehouse can be distorted and muffled in a fire.

All PASS are minimum of 95 db. Its the pattern that it emits that is deceptive and people process as louder / not as loud. The NFPA 2013 has those spaces between cycles (spike) in sound. Because of those gaps it deceives the ear because of the way we process sound. The NFPA TIA sound does away with those long valleys between spikes. Making it sound louder whether it is or is not.

Its everyone from the manufacturer of the fire hood to the guy who sold it and the guys who service it. Its a blanket lawsuit. The reason MSA is listed because they own Cairns. Guys laugh when new facepieces have a sticker protecting the lens that says "remove before use". Read the instruction manuals, some say not to be used in heat or flame. When does it end? Firefighting is dangerous. The best trained, best equipped, smartest, fittest firefighters still get hurt and die. If I remember correctly a lot of Phili FD policies were under scrutiny after this fire & long response times.

He won't get a raise but he'll be a Deputy Commissioner of Something some day or get jammed up because he makes people look bad (or feel bad about themselves). Its odd how that works.

I was told by someone involved on the sales side of it that they have had increases in shoulder injuries & cancer rates. So they are putting a lot of stock in the increased comfort of the G1 shoulder straps & back frame. Train of thought being: Better ergonomics = reduced injuries. More comfortable = will wear more & longer. If wear more and stay on air longer = reduction in cancer. Or just because they looked cool. There is always a little voice inside decision makers heads that can cloud choices and no matter what is printed in a report you will never find out. Years ago I was in a firehouse and the Chief told me they just ordered 25 sets of Morning Pride. The following week I ran into the salesman from AAA and he said he just sold them 25 sets of Globe. When I asked about the MP, he said it was Globe all along with a tail. All they cared about was the aesthetics of the tail.

If I had to guess. The jake wearing the Scott is from a specialized company, maybe a hazmat. The Scott appears to be an hour cylinder. If you thumb through the photos on the twitter link, the G1s look to be 45 ' cylinders and if you look at the older Twitter pics, they used Scott 30'. So this leads me to believe that using the 60' cylinder is not standard. The G1s appear to have quick connect, which is an adapter which goes over the thread. This allows for quick connect / disconnect. So the answer on compatible is yes & no. You could take the QC adapter off the G1 & stick in the Scott or put an adapter on the Scott & put in the G1. Not sure if MA is NIOSH state. If its not you can do that interchange all day long. If it is a NIOSH state then only in times of emergency or non IDLH.

I think its legit, except for the .50 typo. That's drinking into a coma range. Betting its suppose to be .05. Remember Ireland a year or two back tried to or raised the DWI levels in rural areas.

I disagree, there are times you should hear language like that but it should only be used when its needed like "Get the F out of the building". This is from Brooklyn. If it was from the Bronx the reply you would hear would be something to the effect of "Act like you've done this before" or "Are there any professionals on the second floor?"

MSA has been taking orders for the G1 TIC as of FDIC, however because the unit will need to go through testing they believe end user units will not be shipping until next year. There are demo ones floating around. As the TIC / PASS Module is "plug and play" it is about a 5 minute field retro.

Guys, I see some accurate info and some dangerous info. This is something guys need to legitimately train with. Many products out there but here are the two of the three NFPA certified SCBA manufacturers: 1. Scott SCBA buddy breather - the lower filled cylinder will be depleted first when connected with Buddy Breather. Example: trapped FF has 1/4 cylinder, rescuer has 1/2 cylinder. When connected they combined breath trapped (low cylinder) to 0 then combined breath off of rescuer (high cylinder). This does not allow the rescuer to disconnect and get help if trapped is depleted, hence they are both trapped. 2. MSA SCBA Extendaire II (buddy breather) - the higher filled cylinder will be depleted first when connected with Buddy Breather. Example: trapped FF has 1/4 cylinder, rescuer has 1/2 cylinder. When connected they combined breath rescuer (high cylinder) to 0 then combined breath off of trapped (low cylinder). This allows the once high to disconnect and get help if he is going to start breathing off the low cylinder. 3. MSA Transfill - equalizes SCBA cylinders (Boyle's Law) allows donor to disconnect or stay connected and they breath evenly down. This is where the URC connection & principal came from. This allows MSA SCBA with a Transfill Quick Connect & Hose or Installed Transfill to be a universal RIT pack of sorts. 4. MSA Extendaire - this is a Quick Connect between 1st & 2nd stage regulators with a "junction box". This is typically used to hook into an aerial's air or air cart. But a FF can disconnect their 2nd stage regulator and connect into the "junction box". Both FFs would be breathing off the same cylinder. If the "junction box" is connected into a MSA Buddy Breather then it works the same as above.

No wonder the new Volvo XC90 my wife wants is $40K+

That facepiece is a pre-NFPA 1981 2013 edition facepiece so its NFPA was only 200 degree 10 second flame exposure. The new standard is 500 degree for the 10 second with a higher positive pressure behind it. Glad to see MSA be ahead of their time and make a facepice that exceeded the standards. I base this knowing that the 1971 TOG requirements were higher than the SCBA standards. Furthermore for an 8+ year Lion coat looks like it faired very well plus him only receiving 2nd degree burns. Guys that do this for free use this as the example of why you at least deserve good equipment. I'm not sure how I feel the helmet though. A Cairns NYer/Houston with exposed wire even in my mind should have been taken out of service, OR REPAIRED prior to the fire. I like bourkes but that photo is why there are some people that do not support bourkes being exempt on the NFPA drip test. Had those bourkes hit the facepiece that would have been like hot knife threw butter? Also I'm sorry but there is something up with this guy. Any guy that thinks bouncing around is a sign of pride is wrong. It means he is chasing fire around the city or he just does fit in.

Yonkers thread is different from FDNY thread. This is why FDNY engines are suppose to carry the yellow adapter to at least get a line connected.

Kochek is most likely the most flexible but it also has the most issues with air leaks and slippage at the couplings. Harrington are much more rigid but you will never an issue with the couplings. Other brands but can't speak for are TFT & Firequip.

Anyone use Lion FASET?

You are 100% I do not know and that is why I posed the question. Do we not ask questions to learn? I understand negotiations but I really understand the importance of off line positions from personal experience. If Homer is correct that they negotiated the rights away so be it. However that other story is the reason they are in the position they are in now. Also in my prior post when I said answer phones, I was not referring to this. I was referring to clerical positions, help desks, etc.

I passed a Chester Ambulance pick up last week in Newburgh, are they back "in business"?

The better question is why are the two unions not getting together and at least trying to make this a Light Duty job? I have seen places that give away jobs to private sector because no one wants to, change the oil, answer the phone, etc etc. However if those same guys got hurt off duty or had some other special circumstance come up they cry about their situation because of limited options. A close friend of mine has crohn's disease and instead for having to get ML donated to him and go out on disability an option like LD would have been much more appealing.

Would you have a 2nd party inspect your turnout coat if it went through the same thing and showed signs of thermal degradation? I would at least have my facepiece looked at if not the lens replaced on the spot. The only thing I have agreed with NFPA 1981 (scba standard) in a long time is THE FACEPIECE IS THE WEAK LINK. Most guys don't realize that (pre nfpa 2013) facepieces only needed to perform a minimum of 200 degrees. The nfpa 2013 facepieces are tested to 500 degree minimum. I bet no one is complaining about their salty looking helmets though!