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Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.

West Harrison (3.5 Miles) , and Armonk (6.2 Miles) and White Plains (3.5 Miles) Ossining (10.4 Miles) Tarrytown (5.3 Miles) Sleepy Hollow (6.1 Miles) Purchase (5.4 Miles) Port Chester (9.9 miles)

What is important to remember is that six people died that night and that can't ever be reversed sadly. But, the response to the scene and how things were conducted afterwards showed how well a major MCI can be handled. However, there is a certain level of truth to claims that there should be a review of how mutual aid and resources are called upon. I understand that people really appreciate having 60 Control be there dispatching source, but shouldn't the question be asked, where is there boundary? Also, what about being realistic about resources. I know people might still have issues with career and volunteers mixing but to be honest when you need resources sometimes you got to go with that option. Also, geography plays part in this matter. It isn't realistic calling departments from literally miles away to go to the scene or standby when you have resources closer by. This isn't about being picked first in dodgeball or getting to say "we were there". That's foolish to think like that. This is just being realistic. The IC did a good job that night and those who were on the ground did a great job too. This issue shouldn't take away from their efforts. There is nothing wrong with just reviewing for next time and hoping that an incident like this won't happen again.

I’m trying to learn more to be better prepared of the next MCI in Westchester.
Does 60 Control still have the prearrange run cards which I believe have spaces for your first 5 engines, ladders, tankers and rescues, and ect? Which the Chief the gives 60 Control on his wishes the Chief is the “AHJ”. If 60 Control did use the prearrange run card than there is no argument here. But if 60 Control did not follow the prearrange run cards then why? I believe that is a valid question to ask.
Making a decision on calling resources outside of the run cards is it made by the dispatch himself or dispatch supervisor at that time? I think a IC of a incident should know who make that call.
How offer does 60 Control make a department update the run cards? (Yearly)
Does 60 control share the run cards to different agencies so that they are aware that there resources can called to Fire Department XZY. Which can help a department be better prepared for an incident.
Thanks

Hey guys, I'm a member of the department. Yes there has been damage to the building, which is being addressed within the next few months. This damage to the building accrued when we let other departments train in the facility. None of the damage was reported to us. The damage was discovered later on, and with many departments training there it’s hard to place the blame. From here forward we no longer will let other department drill there, unless we have a crew of our own there supervising. We are one of the few to be lucky enough to have such a nice facility it’s sad that others did not respect it.

Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident.

West Harrison (3.5 Miles) , and Armonk (6.2 Miles) and White Plains (3.5 Miles) Ossining (10.4 Miles) Tarrytown (5.3 Miles) Sleepy Hollow (6.1 Miles) Purchase (5.4 Miles) Port Chester (9.9 miles)

You must be a ton of fun at parties

Thanks to all who attended our 14th annual seminar, making it another tremendous success!!!
I think all will agree that Captain Bill Gustin did a terrific job in presenting his case for the need of "Intelligent Firefighting."
Thank you for your continued support!!!
Syd Henry
Elmsford FD
Seminar Committee

I have talked to West Harrison 2nd Lieutenant about their jr. program. The program has done joint drill this year with Village of Mamaroneck, North White Plains, Valhalla, and Port Chester. It seems that West Harrison Jr advisers have great deal of pride in this program. Also it seems that their advisers work great as a team because their Jr. drills every Wed. night. Their Chief must be proud of what their advisers get done. Keep the kids into it. Knowing that most department in the county may only have a hand full of Jr. Members. Here is one department that are looking to get young people into the fire service early Keep up that great Job.
Look at West Harrison Website
Here are the name of their Advisers
2nd Lieutenant: Matthew Fitzgerald
Safety Officer: Rocco Umbro
Firefighter: Jerry Barbagallo
Firefighter: Lenny Callagy
Here are the Photo that are on Their Website
http://public.fotki.com/WHFDJR/west-harrison-fire-/west-harrison-fire-/

This went stupid. Close it already.

Typical Emtbravo this post should have been closed already cause it's so far off topic. All of this career and volunteer needs to stop. What is Emtbravo motto "working together winning together". This post is so far off .does career Department's in Westchester have their problems yes do have some of the same issues as the volunteers Such as manpower. You got a lot of taxpayers that view career firefighters as greedy Workers because of high pensions is this a problem with the careers side yes. How about Bengal tiger fire You had North White Plains engine covering the city of White plains. I have heard a few times of West Harrison tower ladder standing by White Plains quarters headquarter. White Plains, Purchase and West Harrison working together on I-287 to get a job done. when Purchase had the Full Moon fire White Plains Ladder was their at purchases headquarters on standby. How was Fairview working with Elmsford or Valhalla all of these are Emtbravo motto "working together winning together" . Seems that a couple member all always "putting down volunteer firefighter" in Westchester there are many professional volunteer firefighters which take it serious as will as Department. To The administrators of Emtbravo close out this topic. Been a member on the site since 2006 I have seen a big downfall of the site or a few months now. Seems like every other post is career versus volunteer. It seem that the site lost member that you to post a lot on here. That the rule are not followed. Let's work together