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The question remains, can NYC survive for three more years under this administration ???

.Is the Arson Zone concept still working in Westchester ???

On the career side we have the mandated 229 hour training, which more is added to it. then the mandated First Line Officers Program hosted by FDNY, which is also mandated by NYS Law. Then with the most important rank it stops dead and their is no Chiefs Training set up similar to the First Line Program. Some may argue for on-line programs but it is not the same. This something the OFPC should be exploring, way over due.

This reinforces the need to check out your personal gear and the equipment on the rig and the vehicle itself at the beginning of each shift

Sadly there are now requirements to be a Chief in most of NYS but be comforted to know to be a licensed barber you need 1020 hours not mention the beauticians license and their training. So you might be safer in a barber shop or beauty salon, then with the incident commander

It has been my experience with the expression "no other fires will occur in the vacated district so what is the rush ?" My answer to that is, if things. didn't happen that couldn't happen. I wouldn't have had a job.

In 1958, 0n that very day I was a student in a Catholic School with all the structural features that doomed those kids in Chicago

How about a picture of the old firehouses before Fulton Avenue and Lincoln Avenue opened

24 hour shift alone is just a shift, it is not designed to solve all the problems Boston thinks it will.

Found out the hard way that Greene County was on 46.26 while we were responding to the North Country on Mutual Aid during the Ice Storm many moons ago. The boys thought they were well out of range of our radios and had some banter that was most interesting to the unsuspecting

JUST A QUICK QUESTIONM HOW DO YOU PACK THE HOSE IN THE ATTACK LINE SLOTS WHEN THE BAFFLE SEPERATORS ARE SO HIGH AND NARROW ?????

For along time it was Ldr. 14, which was one of the early tower ladder company due to it's location near the tri-boro and bridges to the Bronx not to mention it's Harlem location

Great Jones Street in Manhattan just off the Bowery E.33 & Ldr. 9

Bill Raftery is right this did occur on a USN aircraft carrier under repair. Fire broke out and scores of workers were trapped and the fire became so fierce that firefighter(firemen then) boots melted on the deck plates. Lower Westchester departments did loan FDNY Scott paks and bottles to help control the fire and account for shipyard workers A few days later the same FDNY companies and the same members caught a major mid air collision over Brooklyn which crashed into a neighborhood in Brooklyn not too far from the Navy yard as the "crow flies". About 15 years later again not too far from both events Westchester Departments again responded to Brooklyn to supply foam to the FDNY for a large prolonged oil tank fire near the Gowanus Canal. Mount Vernon actually sent down it's foam truck.

Look up an outfit that installs standpipes and sprinklers in your region and see if they will help you out.

Open cabs were pretty funny if you thought about it, windshield with windshield wipers on both outside and inside, controls, radios getting soaked and in bad weather trying to look up information on maps and binders was impossible. Closed cabs put old timers in a snit when they had difficulty using mirrors Guys on the truck felt the enclosed cabs hindered their ability to quickly spot the aerial to position on the fire building. But if you had a lengthy job during a snow, you had to shovel out the cab to go back home. ( unless someone had the idea to cover with a tarp) Of course this design started to be phased out in the 60's when folks went totally nuts

Heard it was a new position Chief of Staff to the Fire Commissioner

Sad to see Eastchester having these trouble, Eastchester did what every area should be doing about 125 years ago, that is joining Bronxville, Tuckahoe and Eastchester into one regional fire department, Could you imagine a place like Bronxville with a stand alone Fire department. Now there are stand alone Police Departments in Bronxville, Tuckahoe and Eastchester each duplicating each others services and no one seems to have a problem with that concept. As far as I am aware the same holds true for DPW and other various municipal services in the three communities. Why pick on the Fire Department, who has saved the citizens many millions of dollars over the 125 years or so since consolidation, think of the protection and services received by these three communities that they could never duplicate if they remained solo. .

Now you know I meant legs and not kegs in the above posting, if we could get kegs involved it would be a ravening success.

As far as I know there are no mandated specific Chief Fire Officers Courses for Career (outside NYC) and volunteers Chiefs in NYS and most probably many other states also. Idea with the above mandated Chiefs Course for career chiefs would be a 160 hour course taught several times a year in NYC for newly promoted Chief officers / Since it is often difficult .to place mandates on volunteers, this instruction .could be done in a modular format regionally around the state. perhaps on week-ends or evening . A person beginning his ascent thru the various ranks in a volunteer outfit could have completed this course by the time he becomes exalted rule. Hope this project can get some " kegs"

Myself and a NYFD Deputy Chief representing the Northeast Fire Consortium traveled to the National Fire Academy and requested that they develop a national chief Officers course, They told us that they needed the funding so we went to Nita Lowey and thru her office we were given $ 250,000 to develop the course, we brought the money back to the NFA and as promised they developed the course, Our goal was for a nation wide course taught thru-out the country regionally, To test it out it was offered at the NYS Fire Academy and there were few takers. ( So mandated seemed the answer) We went to Randalls Island and met with various high ranking FDNY chiefs and they felt it was a good idea and could be taught in NYC using the FLIP school facilities when not in use, However they needed the supporting funding. Our goal has been reduced to make it part of the mandated NYS Standards as is probie training and Flip school. Career chief candidates would be mandated to go,.while it could be made into optional week-end modules for the volunteers and taught regionally around the state. So would this not help a new promotee who would be entering into a job he has little preparation for. Would it not increase firefighter safety by having the guy running the job knowing more of what he is doing and what an opportunity to interface with skilled folks and learning your trade as your responsibilities have dramatically increased Again this concept should be pushed by the various fire organizations and Homeland Security. lots of training around but none dedicated to the guy running the show

A very important part of fire training is being left out and that is Chief's Training, it would stand to reason that after probie training of 229 hours ( at least) , 100 hours in service and 160 hour first line Officers course, the next logical step would have the Standards Commission mandate a Chief Officers Course, NYS law states in order to be a barber you need more than 1000 hours training and none to be a fire chief, that is crazy. This would be a good cause for the various Fire Organization to champion.

Does Rochester still use the Quad system with some sort of a mini=maxi apparatus set up, looks like they have a basic engine and ladder fire department , I remember talking to an outsider brought into be Chief of this Department and he wished he could go back to engines and trucks instead of a majority Quad fire department, does anyone know their operations ?

Did I understand correctly, these fire studies claimed ,introducing outside streams did not push the fire to other areas as much as one time thought ?. I guess they must be taking straight streams as fog streams would seem to make matters worse as far as pushing products of combustion.. Speaking as a guy who got a few facials when a opposing fog streams were introduced .

I remember many moons ago. Westchester units going to the Pine Barrens of Suffolk County for a huge fire, this had all the markings of something we see in California,.the fire had enough gusto to jump wide six lane highways with huge center mediums, no place for folks with zero wildland fire training, this was not your local grass or leave fire, this was down right life threatening. There is no reason something similar couldn't happen again so training in this discipline would not be a bad idea.