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Definitely an interesting read, and very, very good and well written, informative article.
By Barrett Dorner, Toledo (OH) Fire & Rescue Department
PDF Document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2d_Use5WcrQMWNiN1B4QU5Db0E/view

If only more people would write honest, open, first hand, real life pieces like this.....this is the best kind of supplement to "theoretical firefighting".

Wow! Definitely makes you want to sharpen your skills and be on your toes!

Thanks for posting this Seth.
As I sit here reading this post there is a lot going through my head, but there is one point that stands out in the forefront. Here we have a firefighter who gave us a life lesson or a "it happened to me" lesson. A firsthand account of what happened to him and there are only two comments and 272 views of this thread. Yet we have a three minute video clip posted to the forums less than a day prior that has 20 comments and 1,069 views that may look bad, but is full of "power-hour", "save-the-fire service" Monday morning quarterbacking.
I'm disheartened to see that the fire service hasn't changed in numerous aspects. We hate it when the media, press and the public grab a hold of a short clip of a larger incident and lambaste us, but yet we still do it to ourselves day in and day out. Whether it's at our coffee table or through the keyboard warrior society, we continue to do it. That 3 minute clip may very well paint the whole picture, but unless your boots were on the ground you don't know that. Here, firefighter Dorner told us his story, from his boots. Learn from him and his crew, leave the criticism to the media. If that video really does portray the entire incident, save your time on the forums. Go find a member of the department, ask them what happened and why they did what they did. Then give them a story like this and ask them if they're okay with their Chief knocking on their wife's door.
Be the change you want, if it falls on deaf ears then you can go to bed at night knowing that you did what you could to teach a lesson.

I had a similar thought when I read the story the other day.
I want to say that I read somewhere that Toledo had a large retirement a few years ago that depleted a lot of their senior members and resulted in a large influx of new members and promotion of some others without significant time on the job.
If I recall correctly, there was mention of something regarding crew make up in the NIOSH report from the double LODD he referred to. I don't think it was listed as a specific contributing factor in what occurred though. I think it was more of a making note of it and the obvious issues that can come with a less experienced crew.

Interesting read, glad FF Dorner was able to walk away. Is it me or does it seem that a FD the size of Toledo could figure out a better shift assignment plan then have four FFers with less than 4 years on the job assigned to the same company? As I recall, one popular writer from Toledo a few years back published some ideas on search that basically had the searching crew doing search without any hand tools, as it sounds like was the case here? On re-read, it appears he had the irons, so? To that end Dorner notes he wished he'd brought a 4' hook to sound the floor. Unless their hooks are different than ours, I'd hope for a heavier tool to sound a floor, I wouldn't trust the weight of a hook, nevermind a 4 footer. He noted he had the irons, why not use the halligan to probe and sound ahead?