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  1. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  2. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  3. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  4. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  5. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  6. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  7. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  8. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  9. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  10. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  11. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  12. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  13. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  14. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  15. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  16. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  17. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  18. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  19. Bnechis liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Chiefs weigh in on paid vs. volunteer fire depts. following Seaside fire   
    Being a former volunteer firefighter and a career firefighter for the last 23 years (an officer for the last 15), here is my take on it:
    Being career does not make you any better than being volunteer. I know some volunteer departments in my old hometown (Dutchess County NY) where everyone is well certified and competent, and they show up very rapidly when the tones go off. Heck, some of those guys are better trained than the people I currently work with.
    It all has to do with the following and applies to both volunteer and career departments:
    Leadership -- if the department's leadership does not make sure that there is a means to get their membership trained and encourages it, the department will never be functional.
    Membership -- if you can't get enough people to adequately staff the vehicles when called, then the department will not be functional.
    Political Support -- if you can't get the support of your commissioners or supervising governmental entity, the department will not be functional.
    Fire Prevention -- if the department or municipality doesn't take fire prevention seriously and does not have a good inspection program in place where property owners are held accountable, there will be fire safety issues.
    I've seen terrible volunteer departments and I've seen terrible career departments. I've also seen great career departments and volunteer departments that would put most career departments to shame. I really don't think it has anything to do with volunteer vs. career as a whole, but the specific area in NJ.
    I've seen many departments here in Florida go from volunteer to career and shut down/disband firehouses completely so they could pay the staff of 2 firefighters on an engine for each of the other stations covering a larger area. Yes, you have 100% assurance a unit will respond immediately, but you have less units and longer response times in those areas where the fire stations were shut down.
    This is just my 2 cents.
  20. firerescuecapt liked a post in a topic by Fl Ron in the Villages, FL. refurbished ALF 9000 pumper   
    The Villages, FL. has refurbed this 1967 ALF 900 formerly an Englewood, NJ pumper. It looks like it was just delivered.
    Ron

  21. FirNaTine liked a post in a topic by firerescuecapt in Culture of FDNY groupies rages out of control as 'badge bunny' obsession turns scary   
    I agree with "FirNaTine's" post. I've been involved in emergency services for about 30 years, 23 of which with the same career fire department, and I am still proud to say I am a "buff" and have been one since I owned my first scanner at 12 years of age. I believe that a "buff" is merely a person who enjoys following the activities of firefighters, even if they themselves are a firefighter. They may listen to them on scanners, and even respond to scenes to watch or take photos. The one thing a true "buff" will NOT do is interfere with what is going on. Being that I am in a "command" position now, I have no problem with someone coming up to the scene to watch or take photos, especially if it is a working fire. However, they need to respect what we are doing. In fact, depending on who they are (e.g., prominent citizens or politicians or local business people), "buffs" can be your best ally when dealing with the local council or commission when times are not going so well.
    We even have some "regulars" that come in to our firehouses to hang out for a little bit and talk with the crews, but we all know them and again they have respect and don't interfere with our daily routines.
    A "whacker", on the other hand, is something completely different. Fortunately, where I work there aren't many of them. I have yet to really come across one in my career here ... but I know they exist in other parts of the country. It is a shame that this reporter lumped the "buffs" with the "whackers".