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Bottom line no matter the time no matter the place, wether paid or vollie if your Department and Mutual aid units cant handle what is dispatched then you have no Buisness operating as a FD. I see what your doing here Bnecchis trying to open our eyes and start some table top talk which is good. Sometimes the situation is beyond our means to control as quick as one would want or vision, that can happen to anyone. In a situtation like this the first due or IC must consider how many people need to be removed from the building and relocated withinn and we all know that task will be tough with residents who always cooperate lol. We could go on forever about this. Good topic to open up some minds etc. One thhing they had to thier advantage that alot of us dont have here in Westchester is NO OVERHEAD WIRES so trucks can prove to be majorly effecttive.

Bottom line no matter the time no matter the place, wether paid or vollie if your Department and Mutual aid units cant handle what is dispatched then you have no Buisness operating as a FD. I see what your doing here Bnecchis trying to open our eyes and start some table top talk which is good. Sometimes the situation is beyond our means to control as quick as one would want or vision, that can happen to anyone. In a situtation like this the first due or IC must consider how many people need to be removed from the building and relocated withinn and we all know that task will be tough with residents who always cooperate lol. We could go on forever about this. Good topic to open up some minds etc. One thhing they had to thier advantage that alot of us dont have here in Westchester is NO OVERHEAD WIRES so trucks can prove to be majorly effecttive.

Bottom line no matter the time no matter the place, wether paid or vollie if your Department and Mutual aid units cant handle what is dispatched then you have no Buisness operating as a FD. I see what your doing here Bnecchis trying to open our eyes and start some table top talk which is good. Sometimes the situation is beyond our means to control as quick as one would want or vision, that can happen to anyone. In a situtation like this the first due or IC must consider how many people need to be removed from the building and relocated withinn and we all know that task will be tough with residents who always cooperate lol. We could go on forever about this. Good topic to open up some minds etc. One thhing they had to thier advantage that alot of us dont have here in Westchester is NO OVERHEAD WIRES so trucks can prove to be majorly effecttive.

Bottom line no matter the time no matter the place, wether paid or vollie if your Department and Mutual aid units cant handle what is dispatched then you have no Buisness operating as a FD. I see what your doing here Bnecchis trying to open our eyes and start some table top talk which is good. Sometimes the situation is beyond our means to control as quick as one would want or vision, that can happen to anyone. In a situtation like this the first due or IC must consider how many people need to be removed from the building and relocated withinn and we all know that task will be tough with residents who always cooperate lol. We could go on forever about this. Good topic to open up some minds etc. One thhing they had to thier advantage that alot of us dont have here in Westchester is NO OVERHEAD WIRES so trucks can prove to be majorly effecttive.

Bottom line no matter the time no matter the place, wether paid or vollie if your Department and Mutual aid units cant handle what is dispatched then you have no Buisness operating as a FD. I see what your doing here Bnecchis trying to open our eyes and start some table top talk which is good. Sometimes the situation is beyond our means to control as quick as one would want or vision, that can happen to anyone. In a situtation like this the first due or IC must consider how many people need to be removed from the building and relocated withinn and we all know that task will be tough with residents who always cooperate lol. We could go on forever about this. Good topic to open up some minds etc. One thhing they had to thier advantage that alot of us dont have here in Westchester is NO OVERHEAD WIRES so trucks can prove to be majorly effecttive.

I was with you right until the dig on unions. The system you mentioned has substantial upfront costs. Figure the free market would find the cheapest and most cost efficient way of garbage hauling, right? Then why do all of the commercial haulers still do it this way? While some municipalities sacrifice speed in exchange for forbidding employees from riding on the back, I don't see any commercial haulers that ban the practice.

Tough day for so many today. Rest in peace John heard many good things about you. Condolences to the family.
The BFD brothers and sisters showed great heart and strength in not only attending thier own fallen brothers wake but also Lt.Tyler Rush of Elmsford. That spoke tremendously of the Briarcliff FD and their resolve and support.

Tough day for so many today. Rest in peace John heard many good things about you. Condolences to the family.
The BFD brothers and sisters showed great heart and strength in not only attending thier own fallen brothers wake but also Lt.Tyler Rush of Elmsford. That spoke tremendously of the Briarcliff FD and their resolve and support.

Tough day for so many today. Rest in peace John heard many good things about you. Condolences to the family.
The BFD brothers and sisters showed great heart and strength in not only attending thier own fallen brothers wake but also Lt.Tyler Rush of Elmsford. That spoke tremendously of the Briarcliff FD and their resolve and support.

I don't think they attacked this one as "vigorously" as they do when structures or other property is threatened. From my perspective, they had limited crews on the mountain and pulled them back when it got dark so nobody would get hurt. They didn't want the fire to get into Camp Smith or beyond the ridgeline it was burning toward so they worked on containing from that direction. Seemed like they definitely did a risk vs. reward assessment.

Those with the ability to take action, have the responsibility to take action...
Lets pray the actions that are needed are those of words....

I am one for Consolidation. I think if done right it could save taxpayers in Westchester money and possibly be more beneficial to the FD for service and operations. IF DONE RIGHT!
With that said why does it matter so much to everyone who does not live in Yorktown. Wether it will turn to be a mistake in the future or a added benefit why do we as memebers of this forum demand to seek answers.....if in a educational way than I could see it.
Questions like does this help your response time,will it benefit the district and the people living in it better. I would assume without asking...... that answer would be yes. Ive had the pleasure of working with Yorktown as a Mutual aid department over the years and they are a Proactive aggressive knowlegdible department. Thats why Yorktown has a Mayor, board of trustees, fire commisioners, fire cheifs etc.......Let them and thier taxpayers worry ......
And if one day we consolidate as districts and a county to provide fire protection etc then thats when we can worry how many Firehouses and trucks we have and where thier located.....And we should stop using the word consolidation including myself, WE CANT EVEN COME TO HAVE THE SAME GEAR AND ACCOUNTABILITY TAGS, Some say its cause of the small tight knit commutnitys that are impeeding progress and the politicians....wrong....its the fire service as a whole and greed. The fire service is 100 years of progress impeeded by tradition......We are all to blame. So for now why not just worry about your District unless its for a educational purpose.....cause no matter what we think , Yorktown is going to do what Yorktown feels is best for them. Just as a big city like Yonkers would.
By the way looks like a nice Firehouse.

Everyone has opinions about everything. Heck, I have my own opinions about this. But one has to ask the question...
WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT A FIRE DISTRICT / DEPARTMENT DOES WITH IT'S MONEY IF IT ISN'T BEING USED ILLEGALLY?!
I don't live in Yorktown, nor am I in their fire district. My money says that they've done some kind of homework to decide that adding a third station will be of some benefit in some way, shape or form.
Sure there may not be a fire down this way for many years. And perhaps guys don't live close to this station. But if there is a fire one day, and the Engine in that fire station gets there first, puts out the fire quickly and possible saves someone's life - I'd bet dollars to donuts that everyone will sing it's praises.
I don't understand the hypocricies that go on here sometimes. Everyone wants to be "brothers" when they need something, but so many people are so quick to start criticizing others.

ONE WORD SOLVES THIS AND MANY OTHER ISSUES Consolidation.....you can do it many different ways....start with the departments in the same Battalion.
FirNaTine i agree management can be done better concerning our resources. But if you ask me I think in most of Westchester there are to many ladders and so called heavy rescues. Also what my Department does when we take a piece of equipment out of our district that is vital to our community/ district we thrn backfill.
You may ask then where does it stop hmmm thats the million $ question....
I agree if you cant fullfill your district with proper fire protection and dont have a plan to back it up when you leave you should then manage the mutual aid plan before the call.
But it did seem in the IA that there was alot of mutual aid on this job for a PD but thr I C knows best at that time and bottom.line everyone went home.

ONE WORD SOLVES THIS AND MANY OTHER ISSUES Consolidation.....you can do it many different ways....start with the departments in the same Battalion.
FirNaTine i agree management can be done better concerning our resources. But if you ask me I think in most of Westchester there are to many ladders and so called heavy rescues. Also what my Department does when we take a piece of equipment out of our district that is vital to our community/ district we thrn backfill.
You may ask then where does it stop hmmm thats the million $ question....
I agree if you cant fullfill your district with proper fire protection and dont have a plan to back it up when you leave you should then manage the mutual aid plan before the call.
But it did seem in the IA that there was alot of mutual aid on this job for a PD but thr I C knows best at that time and bottom.line everyone went home.

Kudos to Fairview FD for getting out there and helping to educate the local community which seems to house alot of college students. At that age im sure fire safety and smoke/ co detectors are the last thing on thier mind.
Hopefully this outreach by them will prevent another tragedy like this.