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E-40-10 Make: KME Year Built: 2009 Pump Size: 1250 GPM Tank Size: 1000 Gallons Primary Purpose: Attack Engine T-40-20 Make: Freightliner/American LaFrance Year Built: 2003 Pump Size: 1250 GPM Tank Size: 2500 Gallons Primary Purpose: Tanker/Secondary Attack Specialized Equipment: 4 SCBA 3000 Gallon Fold-a-tank 3 - 10" Quick Dumps E-40-30 Make: International/Tibotrac Year Built: 1998 Pump Size: 1250 GPM Tank Size: 750 Gallons Primary Purpose: Supply/MVA/Brush Fire Specialized Equipment: 2000' of 5" Hose Brush Firefighting Equipment 500 GPM Portable Pump R-40-50 Make: Ford/Amthor Year Built: 1995 Pump Size: N/A Tank Size: N/A Primary Purpose: Light Rescue/Medical Specialized Equipment: Extrication Equipment 4 Bottle Cascade System 5kw Generator and 640 Make: Ford/Medtec Year Built: 2006 Pump Size: N/A Tank Size: N/A Primary Purpose: BLS Ambulance Specialized Equipment: AED 2 Bottle Oxygen System Retired E-40-10 (Currently in action at the Mohonk Mountain House Fire Brigaide) Make: Spartan/Quality Year Built: 1993 Pump Size: 1250 GPM Tank Size: 1000 Gallons Primary Purpose: Attack Retired: 2009 Retired E-40-10 #2 Make: Sanford Year Built: 1968 Pump Size: 750 GPM Tank Size: 750 Gallons Primary Purpose: Attack Retired: 1993 Retired E-40-20 (Cuurently active in Grape Creek Fire Department, SC.) Make: International/Quality Year Built: 1988 Pump Size: 1250 GPM Tank Size: 1000 Gallons Primary Purpose: Supply Retired: 2003 Retired M-40-30 Make: Chevrolet Year Built: 1969 Pump Size: 250 GPM Tank Size: 200 Gallons Primary Purpose: Brush Fires Retired: 1998 Retired E-40-40 Make: FMC Year Built: 1979 Pump Size: 750 GPM Tank Size: 750 Gallons Primary Purpose: Supply Retired: 1998

Mr condolences to the family of Matty O. It was a priveledge and an honor to work with you and call you a friend. We have lost a true hero with a big heart. Lets keep your dedication alive with your "food dude" charities and service to the community. We will never forget you.

61MACKBR1 - you are correct. I belive Ferrera got the bid for all FDNY Apparatus. This particular Rescue: Serial # H-4544 New York, NY (RESCUE #3) Type: Walk-In Heavy Rescue Chassis: Ferrara heavy duty custom fire chassis; 206" wheelbase; Stainless steel 2-door tilt cab; Extreme Duty cab interior; Seating for 2; Power windows; Custom map and record book consoles; Rosco stainless steel mirrors; Extreme Duty painted steel front bumper; Ramsey Patriot 15,000# winch; Federal EQ2B siren; Rosco backing camera; Cummins ISM-500; Allison 4000EVS; Telma driveline retarder; 400 amp Niehoff alternato Body: Heavy duty stainless steel; Walk-In heavy rescue body; Transverse compartment front of body; 27" deep side compartments; 16" deep rear facing compartments; Stainless steel compartment and walk-in doors; Heavy duty air conditioning and heating; Wheel well storage compartments; Underbody compartments; 7 interior compartments with roll up doors; Rope tie downs on roof and rear body; Stainless steel roof roller; Air bag storage; Extrication tool mounting; Extrication tool hydraulic hose reel; Interior SCBA storage cabinet; Interior bench seat; Lumber & ladder compartment; Custom shelves and trays Special Features: Vannair 200 CFM PTO air compressor; DP Manufacturing 25,000 pound hydraulic driven winch at rear; Ramsey 5,000 pound portable winch with left/right side anchor points; Refrigerator/freezer inside body; Federal Signal LED upper level warning lights; Whelen LED lower level warning lights; Federal Signal LED traffic directional bar; ROM LED compartment lights with stainless steel guards; Onan 25kW hydraulic generator on 1000# capacity roll out tray; 6 Fire Research Optimum 1000W scene lights (2 left, 2 right, 2 rear; 2 Fire Research Optimum 150W 12V brow lights; Hannay electric rewind cord reels, one 120V and one 240V

Date: 1/28/2012 Time: 12:54 Location: W Saugerties Rd @ Harry Wells Rd Frequency: 36.48 Units Operating: Co. 19, 19-22(Rescue 1), 19-14(Rescue 2), Diaz EMS, Central Hudson Weather Conditions: Cloudy and Cool Description Of Incident: One car MVA involving a utility pole, minor damage to pole, unk extent of injurie at this time Reporters/Writer: Smokeeatter40 Getting intermittent on the scanner. Please PM me if you hear anything I missed.

Regarding the 3 or 5 year recert plan, with all the recent changes and changes coming down the pike I believe sticking with the 3 year plan is the way to go. Keep up on the updates more readily, if your agency does not provide protocol updates. And a lot less on your plate when recerting. Also, I have been both in the generic recertification and the pilot program. I agree with both teams here. The generic class recert is prbably the way to go, to make sure you are up to date and compitent with the most up to date training. Yet, at the same time, taking the pilot program allows more free range training in emergency service certification. Catching a lot more modern training knowledge and techniques in new technology. In my opinion I would more side towards with general recert class for the best and most direct EMS traning.

I have only been a member for the last 15 years, which compared to some of the people here is not long. Yet, over those years I have tried probably 90% of the gloves listed above. The last two years I have been using the Pro-tech, and have keep with ever since. I only carry two pairs since I usually drench one and I have a back up. Otherwise I have had them both since I purchased them. They are durable, the liner does not slip out, very manuverable, and warm. I have yet to find a flaw yet. Unless you could the wrist strap flipping over when your pulling them from your pocket. Otherwise a definite A+ glove.

Notification is key. Much to often distpatches are drastically affected by not making a call to 911. And what about facilities which refuse to notify dispatch centers of an activation. I know of a few locally whom "will not" call 911.

JM15, you are absolutely right. Every time I hear an alarm (generally when someone standing next to the CP) I give them a little slap and yell to make sure they are paying attention. Same goes for mentoring the newbies. We want to know if we go down someone will have enough sence to some to our help.

I agree with Robert. There is unlimited unlimted possibilitie out there for various PASS systems. The biggest problem I see is the I hate to say it but practical "ignorance" of some people. These systems are in place to get help to you. If you do not want help when you need it most, perhaps you should not be in a pack in a situation where you can get hurt. You are just putting more people at risk. The packs should be checked before/after every use. Don't get me wrong I do not mean do a full inspection prior to putting a pack on. But if it has been a few weeks/months since the last incident or drill here should be an inspection. And this should be weekly if not monthly. On another note it was commented before that responders are geting mute to the sound of the accidental activations. Perhaps a differant sound or trigger? You walk to the mall and hear atleast one car alarm going off. Do you stop and see if a car is getting broken in to? Probably not. But if you are on a scene and a PASS is going off, how long before you start looking, activate a FAST Team, or await a MAYDAY.

I agree that it can be tough with taking the powers way from the departments, yet at the same time it could be a good financial and strategic gain to consolidate. Take for example a township with Three Fire Departments running seperately. All three run as Fire/EMS (BLS) The budgets vary, as well as the apparatus (age/size/rating) I would assume that any tax payer would be more than happy to hear their taxes are being reduced. Could this town (town A) consolidate services? A. Cut down the fleet 1. Retire outdated rigs 2. have a reserve fleet in case of repairs/damages 3. better position apparatus throughout the protection district B. More manpower spreadout throughout the territory I guess the biggest complaint I have heard is having the Town Board as the governing body, rather than a Board of Commissioners. Some people like having a little bit of power. Just my two cents Be safe

Well, lots of information and feelings on both the FD and EMS theories for covering such the territory. 1 - A new EMS coverage. a. Apparaently the current business is not able to mantain the demand of the area. 1. It would be no good for a name change (i.e. same lack of dependability just a new paint job.) 2. And what city/town/etc would approve a new band-aid b. FD coverage - The city currently is not even meeting the regulaory requirements? 1. only making 50-90% of the responses? 2. below minimal staffing? 1 new employee when you really pracically need a new shift? a. where are you pulling the current staff from to staff the rigs? b. you are going to deplete fire coverage even more for EMS response? 3. new apparatus for the FD? a. I agree get a new rig for the FD 1. even if this is a temporary result having the FD cover EMS, the FD will now have a reserve/replacement for the existing rig. 2. or even a back up for FD coverage on scenes c. Get a new company i there who has the staff and equiment to make the responses. a. There is no way any company is going to walk in the door and making the financal goals the current agency is. b. Apparently there is an agency which always has their Cert to work in the city limits? And one which doesnt? 1. How much profit can an agency make when they need to set-up: a. Certifications b. Rigs c. Manpower/Overtime Whatever the outcome I wish the FD and the city luck with covering the calls.

Yea, I saw the old Mack by the rear loading dock by the creek. Good thing they pulled them out of there, or they may have lost the rig and who knows how many responders.

Thanks AndyC3J, Its getting cold all right. How are they keeping our guys warm? Rehab?

Anyone still up and monitoring the scanners? Is this contained yet? And now I hear there is a water main break at the scene.

Plattekill has not been moved up to CVFD or Orange Lake?

Also, newest update, rumor of 7th Alarm? can this be confirmed?

To ALL THE RESPONDERS OUT THERE BE SAFE AND BE CAREFULL. EXTREME FIRE WITH THESE COLD TEMPERATURES COMING IN. WATCH YOUR BACK.

So many great points in this forum, and as it ws said earlier (being hAZMAT is the redheaded step child of emergency services) we may "pre-plan" for a situation, but we still end up fumbling the ball when the incident happens. But, where to start when it come to credentials, mutual aid, back filling, fire, ems, hazmat, DOT, police, mass transit, ...... pre-planning and mutual aid are a good start. Get your staging laid out. this way you are not sending mutual aid in to unecessary locations or monkeyed around throughout a hot zone. did we not just go through cunty wide inventory listing over the last few years? And just just Engine Class, specialty teams, man power, etc. And whatever you do do not move all your pawns ahead on the board and deplete your manpower behind it. "Mandatory".....what a big word. Who is really mandated to what? I was under the assumption that Emergency Services were working together? Firefighter 1 has applied HAZMAT Ops into the class agenda. and last I knew all responders had to be at the Operations level? Why is this not the same for EMS and Police? And the NIMS/ICS.... the process is not that difficult, yet to many department are not on the same page? Finally, with how fast he "rats abandon the ship" we need to keep the upstate resourses here to catch the overflow. set up decon on the main highways, mass transit stops, etc. Be safe, and lets hope we do not need these plans any time soon.

Date: 12/26/11 Time: 1024 Location: 2 Oakwood Ct c/s John St Frequency: 33.48 Units Operating: New Paltz FD, New Paltz Rescue, Highland FD(FAST), Central Hudson Gas & Electric, unknown additional M/A requested Weather Conditions: Sunny, Cold, Windy Description Of Incident: Reported Structure Fire Reporters/Writer: SmokeEatter40 New Paltz FD dispatched for a reported Structure Fire "43" Command on scene reporting working fire Requesting M/A to Work and Standby coverage Request Central Hudson to "Cut Taps", need an ETA Just walked in to the incident. Will update info as it is received. Please PM if anyone caught the original dispatch.

Our deepest heartfelt condolences go out to the Family and Responders who were at this dreadful fire this Christmas morning.

cman473 - We commend you on your last decade of knowledge and committment to the community. PFD has always been a great asset to us all. See you at the big one. Be safe. And firedude.... No hard feelings. We are all here to learn something new.