Sailr322

From a previous forum topic. This seems to outline a lot of what was in the Fitch study, and while there is a link to the actual study from WREMSCO they have removed the study. Maybe someone out there has more of it to add.

http://www.nysheriffs.org/yellowdot "Yellow Dot is a free program designed to help first responders provide life-saving medical attention during that first “golden hour” after a crash or other emergency." A free, and potentially lifesaving, program that the New York State Sheriffs Association offers. How many people where you work do you think will take advantage of this?

You don't think that even with the drills that private companies such as Empress have and some of the fire departments such as Yonkers, Mount Vernon, or White Plains, we would be able to handle something like this? The ability to call upon outside resources such as FDNY as well?

I think it is something to look into. A few more thoughts that have come to me over the past few days sort of branching from what I first thought of. I know that with health insurance lately it has become common practice for providers to give breaks and incentives to those they cover when they belong to a gym or in some cases covering their gym fees since in theory it reduces health risks induced from a sedentary or unhealthy life style. Auto companies as I pointed out gave breaks to drivers that have a safe driving record or go for defensive driving classes. I know that a lot of insurance agencies give price breaks to MOS that have taken classes in CEVO or EVOC (something that I believe is mandatory in most departments for drivers). Maybe the cost of sprinklers could be covered in some way by the insurance company, similar to health insurance companies paying for gym memberships? A break if homeowners attend classes on fire safety or learn about the benefits of home sprinkler systems. I have heard, but am not sure if it is true, that people who live with a hydrant in front of their property or on it they get a reduction on their insurance, if this is true what about people living in areas such as Armonk that had dry hydrants on their property if possible, may a reduction for them too? Just some ideas that came to me.

http://www.jems.com/article/major-incidents/navy-jet-crash-teaches-providers-many-le Interesting article on the review of how responders and dispatchers handled the Navy Jet Crash in Virginia Beach on April 6th this year. I was wondering what people think might happen if this happened where they worked, even with a central dispatch how would your region that may have a heavy mix of career, combo, and volunteer agencies. Would they be able to handle something like this?

http://www.lohud.com/article/20120708/NEWS02/307080038/UPDATE-Drowned-boy-taken-off-life-support-afternoon-after-organ-donation-postponed?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage Very sad, but nice to see some good come of this tragedy through organ donation. Thoughts and prayers with the Amory family.

Date: 7/8/12 Time: 12:19 Location: Saw Mill Parkway Southbound IAO exit 4 (Cross County Parkway) Frequency: 46.50 (Yonkers Fire Dispatch), 484.7125 (Yonkers Fire Operations), 46.26, Fire 18, EMS 18 Units Operating: WCPD: Baker 1, Baker 2, David 1, Harry 2, Lieutenant 1, Truck 1 (ESU), Park 1, Aviation; NYPD; Empress: 33A1, 33A2, 41A1; YFD: E304, E306, E312, L74, R1, Bat. 1 (IC) Bat. 2 (Safety); YPD: ESU; Accident Investigation; StatFlight; NYSDOT Weather Conditions: Hot Description Of Incident: Speeding car collided with another vehicle in the southbound lanes. Three people were ejected from the speeding car, one of whom was transported in cardiac arrest, with two more in the speeding vehicle. Two others in the other vehicle were treated for injuries on location and released. Four patients were taken to Jacobi and one to St. Joe's, all ALS. Original calls stated a motorcycle was involved in the accident, none was found on scene. One male who was ejected and found in traumatic arrest was pronounced dead at St. Joe's. One female who was also ejected from the vehicle and transported to Jacobi has died. Reporters: Sailr322, Texastorm791, peterose 313 12:18 Westchester County Police reporting an MVA with two people on the roadway, possible ejections 12:18 YFD Dispatch: E304, 306, L74, R1, Bat. 1 respond to the Saw Mill Parkway for MVA 12:19 County Police advising that Fire and EMS are en route 12:19 Update from State Police that a motorcycle is possibly involved 12:20 Lieutenant One from WCPD responding 12:20 All YFD units responding 12:21 WCPD advising all responding units: possible one entrapped, two on the pavement, one possible DOA 12:21 Truck One (WCPD ESU) en route 12:23 WCPD units on location 12:23 R1 on location 12:24 Shutting down the parkway at Rumsey 12:24 Baker 2 start out AI 12:25 Units on scene have the roadway shutoff 12:25 Bat. 1, E304, E306, L74 on location, R1 is advising that everyone is out of the vehicle 12:26 WCPD dispatch is advising any units on scene that Yonkers PD is asking that Yonkers Ave. Southbound shut 12:26 Harry 2 asking that StatFlight be started out, WCDP will advise 60 Control and is asking Harry 2 to notify when and where a LZ can be set up 12:29 Baker 2 is asking to get contact with NYPD for road closures and FDNY for two ambulances 12:32 1 Adam is advising they can open up a field in Tibbits Park for the LZ 12:32 Bat. 1 requesting one more engine to the scene, advising to have them come in off of Rumsey Road 12:33 E312 dispatched to the scene 12:33 YFD dispatch is advising L74 that Empress has requested a helicopter 12:33 L74 moving the LZ to the Southbound side of the Parkway 12:34 Bat. 2 is responding as safety, 4-6 minutes until the helicopter is in the air 12:34 Parks 1 will be assisting with the LZ in Baker 2's car 12:38 WCPD advising Parks 1 that IC has moved the LZ onto the Saw Mill by the Cross County Parkway 12:38 Bat. 2 on location 12:39 Medivac is approximately 13 minutes out 12:40 YFD dispatch is requesting the location of E312 12:48 Dispatch is advising IC that medivac is still about 8 minutes out, coming from New Jersey 12:52 IC is canceling the helicopter and advising all patients will be going by ground 12:52 Dispatch is telling IC that the helicopter is 4 minutes out, IC now telling dispatch to standby before canceling 12:54 IC canceling helicopter and all patients are now going by ground 12:55 Yonkers dispatch advising IC that 60 Control has been notified that the helicopter has been canceled and all patients are going by ground 12:55 Empress transporting 4 ALS to Jacobi and one in traumatic arrest ALS to St. Joe's Anyone with info PM me LoHud article: http://www.LoHud.com...s|img|Frontpage News 12 article and video: http://www.news12.co...&news_type=news Fox 5 article and videos: http://www.myfoxny.c...l-parkway-crash NBC 4 article: http://www.nbcnewyor...-161732025.html CBS 2 article: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/08/one-dead-after-crash-on-saw-mill-river-parkway-in-yonkers/

Interesting idea, how would you go about it? A lot of programs I know are incorporated into schools and cub/girl scout programs. Not by any means bashing this idea, just wondering how you or others might go about continued fire education for adults. Maybe as part of a homeowners insurance program or agreement? Or maybe like some auto insurance companies do with defensive driving classes etc., a reduced home insurance rate for taking classes in fire safety or such?

Thanks for sharing! Awesome video and example of the dedication of these firefighters to their community and this man that continues from generation to generation in the firefighting community!!

You're welcome. I found this a while ago and use it as a rough reference when I am looking for something. I can't seem to find anything that has a date of the last time it was updated to be able to give me or anyone else a beter idea what is still active. If anyone out there has something newer or more accurate please share it!

PCFD ENG58, great photos. Thanks for sharing!

http://www.ctsara.org/WestchesterNy.htm I am not sure how up to date this is, but take a look through here, I believe a good portion are still active.

Date: 7/4/12 Time: 22:51 Location: 12 Hallock Place Frequency: 46.26 dispatch, Fire 16, EMS 16, OPS 1 Units Operating: Armonk FD/EMS: 2021 (IC), 2022, 2023 (Water Supply), E286, E287, T9, 51B1, 51B3, U52, U82; Banksville FD: 2581, 2582, E157, T7; North White Plains FD: L47, 2321, 2325; Mt. Kisco FD: 2281, 2282, U13 (FAST) E106 (draft engine); Bedford Hills FD: 2033, E198, T5; Pound Ridge FD: 2401, T3, E112 (LDH Hose Ramp); Katonah FD: T6; Chappaqua FD: 2062, 2061, E146; Pleasantville FD: 2372, T57, E260; Valhalla FD: 2481, R9 (FAST); Round Hill FD: E2 (Standing by in Banksville FD HQ); Bedford FD: 52B1; Purchase FD: 2412, E240 (Standing by in Armonk FD HQ); Yorktown FD: 2532, E272 (Standing by in Bedford Hills FD HQ); Mt. Kisco VAC: 70B1 (Standing by in Armonk FD HQ); Pleasantville VAC: 76-06, 76-05, 76B2 (Rehab); Ossining FD: 2332, E97; Westchester DES: Bat 13, Cause and Origin Zone 5, County Car 24; North Castle PD; NYSP Weather Conditions: Hot, Humid, Thunder Storms Description Of Incident: Working fire. Original size up fire in the basement with heavy smoke. Reporters: Sailr322, firedude Contributors: PFDRes47cue 22:51 60 Control to Armonk to respond to 12 Hallock Place for a residential alarm 22:53 2021 responding 22:58 2021 on location, advising that there is a gate at the base of the driveway, can 60 call the homeowner back and have them open it 22:59 2021 advising that a neighbor is attempting to get them in, the homeowner does not appear to be home as this time 23:04 2021 advising 60 that a caretaker has come down and stated there is a fire in the basement, have gained access to the property by taking the gate with the apparatus 23:04 2021 advising of a heavy smoke condition, fire in the basement, requesting a 10-75 and to start with 3 tankers 23:05 2021 requesting T9 to come up to the scene in order to lay-in and then go back down the driveway to establish a shuttle 23:07 60 Control paging: Armonk on a 10-75, Banksville one tanker and one engine, Mt. Kisco FAST and one engine, North White Plains one ladder, Bedford Hills one tanker, Plesantville one tanker, Battalion 13; all units switch to Fire 16 23:07 2281 and 2282 responding 23:08 2581 responding 23:09 2021 on scene with a 125'x75' 3 story wood-frame structure with fire coming through the roof on the C/D corner 23:09 Chappaqua one engine relocate to Armonk FD HQ 23:10 2252 enroute to his firehouse 23:11 2031 responding 23:11 2061 responding 23:11 2021 requesting two additional tankers to the scene, dry hydrant 23:12 Units enroute to the scene per 2021 do not block driveway, leave it open for the truck 23:12 T5 responding 23:12 E157 responding 23:14 55B1 responding 23:13 Katonah Tanker requested to the scene 23:14 E157 requested to the hydrant per 2021 23:15 2021 requesting additional two engines to the scene 23:15 60 Control to 2031 can you have an engine respond, 2031 advises his engine is now en route to the scene 23:16 Chappaqua and Bedford Hills one engine to the scene 23:18 Tanker 6 enroute to the scene 23:19 E198 enroute to the scene 23:19 2021 advising a tanker shuttle will be needed to be established 23:19 Tanker 7 responding 23:19 Purchase one engine relocate to Armonk FD, remain on Fire 19 23:20 2033 on location 23:20 55B1 on location 23: 20 E157 to lay in from a dry hydrant 23:21 E146, 2061, and 2062 responding 23:21 U13 on location 23:22 Pound Ridge on a re-tone to respond to Armonk 23:22 E157 on location at the dry hydrant 23:23 Tanker 3 responding 23:24 Tanker 5 on location 23:25 Tanker 7 on location 23:25 2581 requesting 1 MA engine to backfill Banksville Fire HQ 23:26 2321 on location 23:27 Additional incoming tankers standby at the intersection due to a bottleneck as per 2581 23:29 Round Hill FD dispatched to relocate one engine to Banksville, dispatched by Greenwich 23:29 L47 on scene 23:30 All tankers switch to OPS 1 23:30 Going to exterior, master stream ops as soon as ladder is in place, heavy fire throughout 2021 23:31 2021 negative on evacuation tones all personnel are out 23:33 E240 out at Armonk HQ 23:34 State Police requested to the scene 23:36 E146 to complete layin from E157 per 2581 23:36 T6 on location 23:38 Second FAST and C&O per 2021 23:39 Valhalla FAST requested to the scene C&O landline 60 Control 23:40 Battalion 13 on location 23:44 Second ambulance requested to the scene per 2021 23:45 Bedford EMS requested to respond to the scene 23:50 52B1 responding 23:52 E146 still stretching, E198 standing by to make sure E146 completes lay to T9 per 2581 23:52 52B1 to respond to the staging area halfway up the driveway 23:52 Battalion 13 advising that IC is requesting the closest rehab unit 23:55 Bat 13 requesting Bedford FD to standby for Bedford Hills FD, CAD shows 1 Bedford engine OOS, Bedford unable to fill request. Bat. 13 requesting any engine to relocate to Bedford Hills 23:56 T3 on location 23:57 52B1 to stage on street and bring rehab up driveway per 2021 23:58 2581 telling E157 to charge the 5in line 23:59 R9 (Valhalla FAST) on location 00:01 E273 (Yorktown) assembling to relocate to Bedford Hills 00:02 Progress report from 2021, Signifact fire from 3rd floor throguh roof, master stream set up, waiting for water 00:04 Duration of the incident is 1 hour at this time 00:04 Mt. Kisco EMS dispatched to relocate to Armonk FD HQ per Bat. 13 00:06 Pleasentville VAC Rehab unit dispatched to scene 00:07 7605, 7606, 76B2 will be responding along with P'Ville Rehab, still assembling 00:09 76B2 responding 00:11 2021 requesting rehab units on Fire 16, not EMS 00:11 7606, 7605 responding 00:13 70B1 is relocating to Armonk HQ 00:17 IC requesting a status on the supply line, 2023 advising 5in needs to be shut off will advise when it is back on 00:20 E146 requested to reduce their pressure 00:22 Duration of the incident is now 1 hour 30 minutes 00:26 2021 Roof collapse, to C and D sides, all hands still operating, exterior operations 00:26 E146 requested to raise their pressure again and re-charge the line 00:31 2023 requesting a portable pump from E157 00:35 1405 (C&O) on scene 00:38 Bat 13 trying to boost pressure, will use portable pump from E157 00:47 Plesantville Rehab on scene 00:48 2021 reports more fire in rear of building, no pressure 00:53 2581 reports 5in will have to be shut down for 5 minutes to allow T7 in 00:56 E146 shutting down the 5in 00:57 E146 reporting the 5in has been shutdown 00:59 Hose ramps from Pound Ridge on location on the way to the staging area per 2581 01:04 E146 re-charging the 5in line 01:04 Duration of the incident is now 2 hours per 60 Control 01:08 100psi output per E146 01:09 2023 requesting an additional tanker, will most likely come from Round Hill 01:10 2023 two fill sites, one on 128 and one on School Street 01:22 As per 2021 no additional mutual aide expected, road can be shut at this time 01:34 Duration of the incident is now 2 hours 30 minutes per 60 Control 01:49 2021 advising 60 Control that fire is darkening down, sending crews to check for hot spots 01:52 E198 requested to drop their pressure a little bit as per 2021 01:53 60 Control requesting 2321 to landline 60 01:54 2321 advising 60 Control that is not possible at this time 01:54 60 Control to 2321 asking to landline when possible than 01:56 2023 to 2581 requesting to cut the pump pressure by about half 01:57 2581 cutting pump pressure by half 02:04 60 Control advising that the duration of this incident is 3 hours at this time 02:12 T5 advising IC of a crew change due to a personnel emergency 02:34 Plesantville and Purchase to the scene for relief and hot spots 02:36 2581 advising an engine is not needed up the driveway, just the manpower, have them come up in any chiefs car 02:37 Ossining toned out for one engine to standby in Armonk HQ 02:38 2332 advising 60 Control and 2021 that E97 is assembling in quarters to respond to Armonk FD 02:39 2021 requesting 60 Control to tone out for Armonk's Gator (U52) and U82 to respond to the scene 02:41 60 Control toning out manpower for U52 and U82 02:42 Ossining additional personnel still needed to fill E97 02:44 2581 to 2421 advising when E240 is on location to position north of the intersection as far right as possible, have crew ready to go to work and shuttle them up in the chief's car since the engine will not be able to make it 02:46 52B1 is available to transport personnel up to the scene 02:47 52B1 making their way down to bring personnel up to the scene 02:49 2581 inquiring if a fuel truck is needed will it fit 02:49 2322 and E97 on the road to Armonk FD 02:51 2581 requesting only personnel to the up to the scene, no engine 02:51 2581 requesting a fuel truck to the scene 02:53 2021 requesting an update on the manpower at quarters for utilities, 60 Control advising nothing at this time 02:54 Bat. 13 requested to landline 60 Control 02:54 E260 on location, per 60 Control contact 2581, have personnel with packs and gear, shuttle to the scene in a chiefs car or apparatus on location 02:55 60 Control tone out for additional personnel still needed for U52 and U82 03:02 2581 asking if Plesantville has portable lighting to bring it up with their crew 03:04 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now at 4 hours 03:08 Bat. 13 to 2581 requesting the fuel status on all the tankers and the relay, advising of one issue on the scene already 03:13 70B1 requesting additional tones for manpower 03:14 60 Control tone for EMT and driver 03:16 70B1 advising 60 full crew is now assembled 03:17 All tankers are at approximately 1/2 a tank of fuel, 2581 working on fuel truck 03:18 2062 to E146 relief to one FF on the way, he can make his way to the intersection 03:19 2581 if Plesantville wishes to bring lighting in they can, Plesantville advising they don't have enough manpower at this time 03:21 2581 advising fuel truck is on location, beginning the process of refueling 03:27 2581 to E146 can shut down at this time, do not break down at this time, wants to make sure tanker operations are still ok 03:28 2581 to E146 and E157 can start breaking their lines down 03:29 2581 have the fuel truck come up to the scene for E286 03:31 2021 to 60 Control on a progress update, main body of the fire k/d in overhaul stages 03:32 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now at 4 hours and 30 minutes 03:38 U82 responding 03:41 2581 running two hand lines at this time 03:43 2581 advising water and fuel levels are ok at this time, should be able to handle 03:53 2021 requesting U52 up to scene 04:02 60 Control advising the duration of this incident is now 5 hours 04:07 2581 advising that in approximately 10 minutes all hand lines will be pulled out and going to master stream operations 04:18 2021 advising 60 Control Valhalla FAST in clearing, will advise when they are clear of the scene 04:20 2481 and Valhalla FAST clear of the scene, switching back to Fire 11 04:29 60 Control to Bat. 13 progress report per 2021: pulling hand lines and going to ladder operations, all hands still working, duration of this incident now at 5 hours 30 minutes 04:31 2581 advising going to ladder operations now 04:32 2023 asking if manpower is available to come down to pack hose 04:33 2581 advising Bat. 13 they are keeping master stream ops in place for the next 20 minutes then beginning the process of clearing 04:40 T6 filling 04:43 Bat. 13 advising 60 Control that 52B1 has been released and placed back in service per 2021 04:50 2581 per 2021 to 2023 and tankers shut it down 04:50 E198 shutting down, E106 shutting down 05:02 Bat. 13 all units in the process of shutting down 05:03 2581 to Bat. 13 IC is releasing all tankers with the exception of one Armonk and One Banksville 05:04 Tankers in the process of picking up, one Armonk and one Banksville remaining on scene as per 60 Control 05:05 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now 6 hours 05:08 T3 returning to quarters 05:09 52B2 back in service, returning to quarters 05:16 2372, T57, E260 released 05:19 T6 back in service, returning to quarters 05:19 All Plesantville units returning to quarters 05:22 2325 advising all North White Plains units are back in, returning to quarters 05:23 All Katonah back in service, returning to quarters 05:24 Mt. Kisco FAST picked up and back in service 05:32 E106 back in service 05:48 T7 returning to quarters 05:49 2372 advising 60 all Plesantville units back in service back in district 05:50 2412 advising 60 all Purchase units back in service from Armonk 05:54 2031 advising all Bedford Hills units in service from Armonk 05:55 2532 and E272 returning to quarters 06:04 60 Control advising units have now been operating at this incident for 6 hours 06:15 2581 all Banksville units clear and in service from Armonk 06:17 2021 to 60 Control heading back to HQ to pickup hose line, E286 and Chappaqua remaining on scene 06:21 70B1 released from Armonk FD HQ, back in service 06:22 Ossining units released back in service 06:22 2021 request tones for manpower to report to HQ for cleanup 06:23 Armonk toned out for manpower to HQ for cleanup 06:38 All Ossining units back in district, back in service 06:42 E146 and 2062 clear of Armonk, E146 out of service at this time per 2062 will advise when it is back in 10:00 2021, C&O on scene with hot spots, requesting Armonk and Banksville to respond back out 10:02 2021 requesting BHFD TL57 to scene 10:09 Armonk and Bedford Hills Re-toned 10:13 E286 OOS until further notice per 2021 10:13 Bat 13 responding to Armonk 10:17 E288, TL57 responding 10:23 2021 requesting TL57 to back up driveway 10:24 Armonk Tanker retoned 10:25 E288 on scene 10:29 T9 responding 10:31 TL57 on scene 10:40 U82 responding 10:41 Bat. 13 on scene 11:44 Bat. 13 back in service 11:45 T9 clear of the scene, going to re-fill 11:45 Bedford Hills & E288 clear of scene, back in service 11:58 County Car 24 back in service from Armonk 11:58 All FD units clear, turned over to homeowner per 2021 17:54 All members to report to HQ for special cleanup 20:07 Armonk units toned back for hot spots LoHud article: http://www.lohud.com...|text|Frontpage WABC 7 article: http://abclocal.go.c...urbs&id=8725418 News 12 article: http://www.news12.co...&news_type=news Newsday article: http://newyork.newsd...-hurt-1.3822029 LoHud photos from the fire: http://www.lohud.com...&nclick_check=1 (these photos are not mine, they are taken by Frank Becerra Jr.) Armonk FD article with photos: http://www.armonkfd.com/2012/07/july-4th-structure-fire/

Date: 7/4/12 Time: 22:04 Location: 11 Scenic Drive x Amber Drive (Amberlands Complex: Building 11, Apartment O) Frequency: 46.26 dispatch, Fire 10, EMS 10 Units Operating: Montrose FD: 2271, 2272, 2274, 2276, E121, E122, LT8; Buchanan FD: 2551, 2552, 2553, E161 (relocate to Montrose FD HQ), U12 (Cascade); Croton FD: 2083, E119 (FAST); Cortland VAC: 88B3, 8811; Verplank FD: 2491, 2492, E128; WCDES: Battalion 17, Cause and Origin Zone 4; Con Ed; NYSP Weather Conditions: Hot, humid, storms Description Of Incident: Fire in the walls of a house from a lightning strike. Call originally came as in inside electrical problem. Upon arrival at the scene residents were reporting heavy smoke in a basement apartment. Crews found heavy smoke throughout the basement and used the thermal imaging camera to locate fire in the basement roof and in the walls with extension to two neighboring apartments. Once the fire was located, the 10-75 was requested by Engine 122 and Ladder Tower 8 hit the hydrant and laid-in. The fire was knocked down roughly 30 minutes after that. Reporters: Sailr322, firedude, FF398 Contributors: Spartan052, Larchmont_Boy 22:04 60 Control Montrose to Respond to 11 Scenic Drive Apartment O for an inside electrical problem 22:07 E122 responding, requesting the address and apartment number again 22:13 E122 on location, investigating, residents reporting heavy smoke from the basement 22:15 10-75 as per E122, fire in the walls 22:16 Montrose on a re-dispatch, Croton FAST, Battalion 10, Buchanan Cascade, Cortland VAC to the scene, Verplank standby, on a structure fire 22:17 Croton FAST mutual aide to Montrose, Battalion 10 for a 10-75 22:18 2271 responding 22:18 E122 requesting tones additional manpower to the scene 22:18 2271 requesting Croton FAST to be on the road, 60 advising the 10-75 has been called and they are on the way 22:19 Verplank one engine to the scene per 2271 22:19 2493 responding to the scene 22:20 Verplank engine en route 22:20 2272 enroute, requesting what other chiefs are going, advised by 60 2271 has signed on 22:21 2551 has two full crew in quarters if 2271 wishes 22:21 60 advising 2271 that Buchanan has two full crews standing by in quarters if need be, 2271 requesting them to not respond to the scene at this time 22:22 60 Control to 2251 have U12 respond to the scene and E161 relocate to Montrose FD HQ per the 10-75 22:22 E128 responding to 11 Scenic Drive 22:22 E122 advising smoke condition, fire in the walls, one line stretched and crews opening up 22:22 2271 on location, received the sized from E122 22:22 2251 U12 responding shortly, one engine relocating to Montrose FD HQ 22:23 E119 (Croton FAST) responding 22:26 E121 on location at the hydrant 22:26 E119 (Croton FAST) on location 22:26 2083 on location 22:27 2271 requesting status on FAST, 60 advising they have just arrived on scene 22:27 Battalion 17 enroute (Battalion 10 is unable to respond) 22:29 E161 is relocated to Montrose FD HQ 22:30 2271 requesting Con Ed to the scene 22:30 2271 advising 2251 and U12 to come all the way in 22:30 2251, 2252, 2253, and U12 on location 22:34 C&O 4 requested to the scene per 2271 22:35 C&O 4 requested to landline 60 Control 23:01 C&O 4 on location with Montrose 23:41 All occupants are out of the building with no injuries, per fire investigators it appears to have been an accidental electrical fire 0020: all units clear of Montrose per Bat.17 Cortlandt Daily Voice Article: http://cortlandt.dai...-croton-complex LoHud article: http://www.lohud.com...fire-chief-says

Yes, I am sorry I should have made it a little bit clearer lol. The grater than 30 is when the tag changes, and I accidentally put it as less than 30. I should have explained a bit more. Less than 30, but greater than 8 thanks for pointing this out so I can make it a bit more clear what I meant. Thank you helicopper. I think today also is a very clear example of the effectiveness of the management system we have in place. Several different agencies were able to work together, along with commercial agencies as well as FDNY. Case and point, the existing one is NOT a waste of time. Units were on location, deemed what they needed, were able to call in additional support, and prioritized the patients quickly and effectively as well as determining the appropriate facilities to transport them to in a very timely manner. If the existing MCI management we have in place was not effective and indeed a waste of time why was today so successful?

The major difference between EMS agencies in Westchester and NYC, and it may be the same in northern counties, but I cannot speak for sure since I don't know how they works, is that NYC uses an orange tag. Everything else is pretty much the same. Black: Dead or injuries that are not survivable, no airway Red: Life threatening injuries requiring immediate transportation, need to reposition an airway, respiration rate is less than 30, no radial pulse, fails to follow commands, and is non-ambulatory Yellow: Non-life threatening injuries, have an airway, respiration rate is greater than 30, has a radial pulse, follows commands, and is non-ambulatory Green: Minor injuries, ambulatory Orange (NYC only): Chest pain, respiratory distress, stridor, increased work of breathing, head/chest trauma This is just what I have come to understand. Again I am not sure if this applies to areas outside of NYC. Anyone that has more information about the Westchester system or any corrections to what I know feel free to add.

Nice photos! By far one of my favorite and more represented parades in the region.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/261272/81/Using-Social-Media-To-Contact-9-1-1 Came across this article today off of JEMS. Wondering what others thoughts on this might be. Especially in light of hoax 911 calls and instances of such as the one today in Rye, http://www.lohud.com/article/20120627/NEWS/306270104/Police-decry-false-report-Rye-home-invasion?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFrontpage

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304441404577478603178669654.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_editorsPicks_2 This is more of the article. They offer some more information in here, including the firefighting equipment they keep on hand.

http://live.wsj.com/video/the-airport-where-trouble-lands/3E42C033-A171-4CA1-BE8E-E3DB90D7411E.html?mod=wsj_hpp_tboright#!3E42C033-A171-4CA1-BE8E-E3DB90D7411E Interesting piece by The Wall Street Journal about Bangor, Maine's "International Airport". Is there something that other airports around the nation are able to learn from then level of preparedness that this "local" airport has?

Thanks for providing an insiders input to my question!

http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/provider/licensing/occupational/emt/initial-training/overview/public-health-oems-training-basic.html I found this off the Massachusetts Health and Human Services website. It would appear to be 100 hours of classroom and field training and 10 hours of in-hospital observation, so a total of 110 hours.

From the article I believe it said, "EMTs are subject to 26 days of training". I would think that these are full days and not working days, but I am not sure. Maybe somebody that holds a MA card could answer this for us.

http://www.jems.com/article/news/study-finds-emt-certification-easy-obtai Interesting article. Any thoughts?

I agree. Especially in the instance of a fire like this one. You have multiple floors and apartments to check and if the first arriving units are tied up assessing patients and not able to make entry to look for trapped people. If you are able to have both respond on the alarm assignment this allows the initial fire units to enter and search for trapped individuals while EMS is able to asses those that are out of the building. At a big scene I think it is best to keep everyone operating in the area they responded with, fire with fire, EMS with EMS, and then once the situation has been sized up begin to fill in where necessary. I am not saying that EMT-B EMT-P FFs are not capable of delivering care, but at a working fire such as this one I think it is more important for them to be able to make initial entry upon arrival rather than spend valuable time that they could be looking for trapped people caring for those already out that responding EMS could handle.