Avon Rob

Old Tarrytown firehouse was originally a Masonic Lodge building. House Hope Hose on left as you faced the building. To the right was Conqueror Hook & Ladder. The police were located in the rear of the building. Detectives got a lot of drives! Lodge was located on 2nd floor.
 

Old Tarrytown firehouse was originally a Masonic Lodge building. House Hope Hose on left as you faced the building. To the right was Conqueror Hook & Ladder. The police were located in the rear of the building. Detectives got a lot of drives! Lodge was located on 2nd floor.
 

Old Tarrytown firehouse was originally a Masonic Lodge building. House Hope Hose on left as you faced the building. To the right was Conqueror Hook & Ladder. The police were located in the rear of the building. Detectives got a lot of drives! Lodge was located on 2nd floor.
 

60 Control has recently begun adding an Alpha/Bravo/Charlie/Delta Response codes to their EMS dispatches. We were informed by 60 that an e-mail was sent to all Captains explaining it all. My Captain has not seen fit to share that info yet. Can anyone explain it for me?

Should name it after John Kelly RIP!

Three years, since Rob's passing. Still in our thoughts and prayer's. RIP Rob!!

Why is this always a surprise... The PA answers to NO ONE...never has and never will.....

personalities over principles ?
 

If that is all that happened, suspension was not warranted.
 
 

If that is all that happened, suspension was not warranted.
 
 

If that is all that happened, suspension was not warranted.
 
 

If that is all that happened, suspension was not warranted.
 
 

If that is all that happened, suspension was not warranted.
 
 

About a month ago, Detroit was being pounded by heavy rains. I put them on Broadcastify to listen in. They were running trees down, wires down and cars stuck in the flooding underpasses. I looked on the Internet for Detroit Fire to get an idea of what they run. What I found is astounding. Detroit is the arson capital of the world! It's almost like "The Bronx is Burning" back in the '70's & 80's. In a nutshell they have about 5,000 Working Fires or greater each year (that's about 13 a day). That's more than FDNY!! I couldn't believe it. Granted many of their fires are already burned buildings, but I've been listening the last month and they get their share of occupied structure fires & commercial fires. I am not exaggerating when I say that if turn on Broadcastify and listen in, there is either a Working Fire in progress, just ending, or one being dispatched. It's continuous. If this interests you, then read on.
 
The city has 28 Engines, 13 Ladders, 6 Squads, and 8 Battalion Chiefs. Within the city limits the cities of Hamtramck & Highland Park reside. These are two very small cities, both surrounded by Detroit and each is only about 2 square miles. Each city runs an engine and a ladder. They work in conjunction with Detroit and are even dispatched by Detroit. So adding in those two cities, Detroit is covered by 30 Engines, 15 Ladders, 6 Squads & 8 Battalions. I have NO idea how they have so many fires with such a relatively small department. In addition to the structure fires they have daily car fires, dumpster fires and also run first responder on medical calls. I am not sure what their mutual aid agreement is with surrounding cities. The firefighters in Detroit must go to work and expect to be working their whole shift on a daily basis. I'm just guessing but I assume they must rotate people from the quieter companies to the busier companies to keep them fresh. It sounds like everyday would be the equivalent of playing a football game. Again, only a guess, but the average Detroit firefighter probably lasts 20 years and then is completely broken-down and has to retire.
 
I like what they have for radio communications. They have fire dispatch on one frequency and then 8 fireground channels. They assign them by which chief is assigned first due to the box. If Battalion 4 is assigned, they assign Fireground 4. If there is another fire in Battalion 4's area, they just assign a fireground channel to whichever chief is coming in. "Companies responding to Main & Elm switch to Fireground 8 for Battalion 8."  In just a month I've heard numerous Working Fires going on at the same time.
 
There response, from what I can figure out is as follows:
Box Alarm 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad, 1 Battalion
Commercial Box Alarm: 4 Engines, 2 Ladders, 2 Squads, 2 Battalions
2nd Alarm: 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad, 1 Battalion (If it came is as a Box Alarm and they go to a 2nd it sounds like they round out the Commercial Box assignment along with the 2nd Alarm assignment.)
 
Their manning appears to be 4 on an Engine, Ladder, and Squad; however, all those units will drop to 3. So on any given shift Squad 1 may have 4 and Squad 2 may have 3. When they sign on location they'll declared their PAR. "Engine 9 on location, PAR 4." Here's what I don't understand, about 50 percent of the time a unit will sign off and say PAR 3 plus 1 or PAR 2 plus 1 or it may just be PAR 3 or PAR 4. So I don't think it's the number of firefighters plus the officer. All I can think of is that it must be Probies on the rig, which means about 20% of the department must be probies. The whole thing is just mind-boggling and I really can't wrap my brain around it. At busy times they must have 3 or 4 Workers at a time!
 
I'm sure many have heard about Devil's Night in Detroit (Oct. 30th). At one point they were averaging 80 structure fires on that night. I believe last year it was cut down to about 40. Well, Devil's Night is fast approaching and I will be sure to listen in. God Bless the Detroit firefighters and stay safe!

 
Absolutely not true.  They may have far more latitude than with tax dollars but they are accountable to the taxpayer on their expenditures.
 

I gave you a like, Jim, because it's definitely something that's gone to the wayside. A lot of members won't reply to posts, and then they get to the point where they read and just move on. It's like looking at Facebook all day....eventually you just see a few posts and move on. But sometimes there's a great topic and some awesome information that comes across the threads, and no one acknowledges that they were there, that they read anything! I'm just as guilty of this, as sometimes I'm just catching up on things or just reading a few threads before I have to run out the door.
But, you're right. We should be acknowledging each other a little more with that tiny blue button in the lower left corner.

It's the nice thing to do, easy and same as liking something on Facebook. Give people some credit for posts you like.

I think there are some paid staff in Ocean County. Not sure exactly which departments though.
 

Can not wait to see Paul Feiner riding in the sidecar!!

Can not wait to see Paul Feiner riding in the sidecar!!

Three years, since Rob's passing. Still in our thoughts and prayer's. RIP Rob!!

Three years, since Rob's passing. Still in our thoughts and prayer's. RIP Rob!!

Here is an interesting video that I thought might explain the kind of person Rye might be looking for as the next fire chief. Although this chief does seem to be quite educated.
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCFKMjiTme0

Many years ago there was a committee from the Fire Advisory Board that started such a survey, Anyone know what happened? This was around 2003-2004 for a time reference. Thanks!

From the EMTBravo.com archives. Photos originally posted to Protection From The Past-Cutty630 Archives 3-27-05.
 
Mount Kisco-Business District
Major Emergency Structure Fire
South Moger Ave 11-25-1996
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