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Isn't most of the weight of the SCBA supposed to sit on your hips instead? I doubt there is a weight or ergonomic difference between Scott and MSA>

Rumors abound about this major shift from Scott. There are few if any other brands on this job that I have a deep a loyalty to. I'v e switched helmets, boots, bunkers, hose, nozzle, apparatus and always felt fine, but a switch from Scott to anything else would be a hard pill to swallow. I'm not sure of any piece of equipment we invest so much time in being intimate with and rely on for so much. I can honestly say I've never had an issue that took air away from my mask with Scott, something I cannot say about previous uses with two other major brands. I hope this works out for BFD and isn't due to a foolish backlash.

Elmsford PD Car 37, a 2018 Tahoe sporting their new graphics package.
 
Graphics designed, printed, and installed in house by M Power Window Tint & Wrap of Elmsford.

Nick... The first three numbers are the department number as you said.  Usually the last number denotes a decreasing level of command authority.  My old department (Millwood) is Westchester County Department 225.
 
2251 - Chief
2252 - 1st Assistant Chief
2253 - 2nd Assistant Chief
2254 - Captain
2255 - 1st Lieutenant
2256 - 2nd Lieutenant
2257 - 3rd Lieutenant
2258 - Safety Office (when I was there this may have changed)
2259 - Ex Chief that took acting chief role if one of the 3 active chiefs was out of town (this may have changed since then as well)
 
This is how it is set up for Millwood.  Other departments have more than one captain or they have deputy chiefs or more than 3 chiefs so the last number may designate one of those positions and the lieutenants may never have a county command number.
 
Hope this helps.

I can see this new law being 100% acceptable if it solely targeted the the issue of the re-purposed ambulance still having emergency markings on it.  It should be the responsibility of the new owner to remove all emergency decals and striping prior to the reuse of the ambulance for other ventures.  This would make more sense as old ambulances have been re-purposed for many things around the country, including contractor vans, ice cream trucks, and DPW vehicles.
 
With that said, could this ban on "slambulances" eventually include other former emergency or governmental vehicles from becoming party venues on wheels?  How long until school buses make the list?  Or walk-in rescues?  Or garbage trucks?  Yes, I'm being a bit satirical, but the long arm of the law seems to be reaching a little too far.

Instead of questioning an exterior attack vs an aggressive interior attack.  They should be getting back to basics and work on that.   Like someone mentioned above not really an "A" effort.  The way the video was edited you can't really create a true time line of how long it took to get things going.  In the video it shows an engine pulling up and to me it looks like it took a long time to get the line in place and water in it.  They had a chance to make a good push on this but their lack of assertiveness and aggressiveness they let this get away from them. I'd be embarrassed if I was the chief after seeing this.  

Every fire is a challenge.  And every fire is going to be Monday morning quarterbacked.  But I'd rather focus on those scene lights on the bucket...Those things lit up that front yard like daylight!
 
 

A bunch of us from the airport went up to Boston for our annual FAA certifications.  Here's a few pics for you guys!
 
 

This is just one of the risks when beaching your ladder.  I've never seen it as a big deal.  We used to beach our quint upstate A LOT.  Usually to get it out we would jack it up with the outriggers and place plywood underneath the wheels.

Too early in the Season to consider leaving any hard surface, it happens. Hope they got it out without any damage to the undercarriage.

This guys strength is incredible. And it's legit strength. This is Braun Strowman from WWE Monday Night RAW at Nassau Coliseum last night. Watch the video. CRAZY! And this is 100% real.
 
 
 
   

Congrats and great job Chief! (and the article was very well written)
 
 
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/westchester/2017/04/08/tarrytown-firefighter-leads-tzb-rescue-becomes-chief-same-day/100224570/

 
If designed right, considering the plot of land described in the article, a 4 bay station would definitely fit.  You could probably go up to 6 bays if you make the building taller to accommodate the lost room on the ground.  Meh, that's a pipe dream, though.  A 4 bay station, like the old HQ, makes more sense.
 
 
100% AGREED!!!  Ridge Hill has become a small city itself.  Putting a single engine company up there would be a world of help.  Though, it would probably easier to have a couple of those golf kart-like engines like the MTA has in GCT to get around all of the traffic!!!

Funny thing,
I don't remember hearing that the Chappaqua Fire Department or VAC had units at Bill and Hill's while he was president. Ditto on Crawford.  
 
Also the law was changed. Bill Clinton is the last ex president to receive protection for life. Now it only for 10 years after leaving office. 
 
 

The deparment in warwick mass that had mother and 4 children die in fire yesterday would love to have a truck like this, they only have 12 volunteers, what a shame to scrap that truck

I drove that engine for 10 years and it was great. Still can't believe the village couldn't get more for it, it's a shame and I think they got it for even under 4200. The thing was still in very good shape, too bad it couldn't go to somewhere that could use it. REST EASY ENG42INE! Sad to see it go to scrap metal.

 Done gone good by , Can of soup soon to bad  could have used it in upstate New York
 

I came across this article in the New York Times archive a while back. It gives an interesting history of mutual aid in Westchester in its early days, and about the dispatch center that became 60-Control. Some things never seem to change...
May 24, 1953
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PLAN FOR FIRE AID NOW 25 YEARS OLD

Westchester System Has 750 Paid and 9,000 Volunteer Firemen for Emergencies

Special to THE NEW YORK TIMES

MAMARONECK, N. Y., May 23

No longer do Westchester County firemen of one district sit stolidly by while a house burns fifty feet away- in an adjoining district.

In 1921, a man died in an apartment house fire because Scarsdale and Yonkers fire officials, after a jurisdictional dispute, responded belatedly to a boundary-line blaze. A year later came the organization of the Westchester Fire Chiefs Emergency Plan, under which the 750 paid firemen and 9,000 volunteers of sixty-one districts are organized for mutual aid in the event of an emergency-a conflagration, flood, hurricane, train wreck, building collapse, explosion or war.

The plan celebrated its silver anniversary this week with a dinner and installation of officers at Lawrence Inn on Boston Post Road here. Chief Edward J. MacDonald of White Plains succeeded Chief Joseph Carroll of Montrose as president. Roi B. Woolley of Larchmont, is coordinator of the plan which has served as a model for similar cooperatives throughout the United States.

Also Aids Routing Calls

Although a major purpose of the plan is to give aid in major disasters, it has become equally important in assuring that no fire district- rural or urban- is without adequate protection while dealing with routine calls for assistance. A summons from any one of Westchester's six cities, twenty-one villages or eighteen towns is recorded in the plan's control center at White Plains Fire Headquarters and, within minutes. the manpower and equipment of all other units can be dispatched or held ready on a stand-by basis.

If, for instance, a building should collapse in' Mount Vernon, the control center dispatcher at White Plains could determine immediately from' his "major disaster operations manual" where to obtain additional men and firefighting equipment, ambulances, bulldozers, floodlights, gas masks, doctors and nurses--or emergency housing. In wartime, if roads were blocked. he could arrange by previous agreement for the transportation of heavy equipment on flatcars of the New York Central or New Haven Railroads.

Cooperation Is Illustrated

In the event of fire at a children's boarding school in rural Hawthorne, file cards at the control center would indicate that additional fire engines should first be dispatched from Valhalla, secondly from Thornwood and thirdly from Pleasantville. Special rescue equipment would be obtained from Ossining, an electric generator from Thornwood and masks or an acetylene torch from White Plains.

Under a reciprocal agreement, Westchester and New York City are prepared to send as many as forty-five engine companies to the other's territory if needed.

Available in Westchester are 177 engine companies, fifty-one hook and ladder companies, seventeen rescue companies, eight fire patrols, four high-pressure fog units, nine fire department ambulances, ten hose companies and two foam companies. The county's equipment includes adapters so that hose lines from any district can be 'connected-with either "National Standard" or '''Metropolitan" threads.

To protect Westchester's 625,000 residents and property with an assessed valuation of $2,000,000,000 in an area of 448 square miles, the control center is manned twenty-four hours a day by paid firemen of White Plains and by members of volunteer companies throughout the county.

Acceptable, NO.  Unfortunate reality for many, YES.
 
Yes, but I bet that a 2 man crew arriving quickly, followed by an additional 2 man crew (or more) a couple of minutes after also outperformed a single 2 man crew and probably did at least as well as that 4 man crew arriving together minutes later.

While certainly not ideal, a competent and experienced crew of two arriving quickly can have a positive effect on many incidents rather than a unit with more staffing arriving a few or several minutes later.
 
I've spent the majority of my career (the paid part) working on an engine staffed with only 2.  We've been able to have 3 at times over the last few years.  Several years ago now, we had a 2 man crew arrive first at a working fire and execute a ladder rescue of a trapped victim prior to arrival of other units.  That gentleman knows what the point would be.  You'd be surprised at what we've accomplished at some incidents. 

If I am not mistaken the Consolidation Plan submitted several years ago consisting of around   10 willing Departments and District would have put as many as 26 men and on the scene in 6 minutes on three engines, two ladders , a heavy rescue and Incident Commander , the location of this fire was a perfect example.
The craziest part of the whole plan would have been the closest firehouse to the call responded, despite municipal boundaries could you imagine that ?????

 
Assuming that another rig with more staffing was on its way, a rig with two is still better than none.  Establishing continuous water supply, throwing ladders to a known point of entrapment, extended walk around and size-up to the remaining incoming units, among many other activities can be completed by a crew of two and if nothing else, they're geared up and immediately fill out the "two in two out" requirement when the next arriving apparatus marks up. 

 
That's sad if it's true. Then what good are they on EMS calls?  And doesn't the State reimburse the tuition fee for EMS exams?
 
I know some departments, in the past, their Probies came in with a CFR cert from the academy. It's been several years since that point and the cert has expired, and the department has not invested in training and continuing education required to keep the cert up, yet still go on EMS calls. Firefighters wouldn't be allowed to go to a call without firefighting training. EMS training should be as respected and have parity with firefighter training especially if that's the majority of our call volume nowadays. I think removing the CFR curriculum for the academy is dangerous for the citizens they serve. Also, going with the antiquated CFR title, is useless nowadays. EMT is the standard from small rural departments to the largest cities. And again, EMT training can be fit into an academy class in a variety of ways.
 
Also, I never thought about it. Do departments pay tuition for the Career Fire Academy?

I think you're a young enthusiast that doesn't understand some of the respectful tones that should be carried in a conversation with a known member and frequent contributor to this forum who happens to be an FDNY Jake (look up the term if it's escaping you). Take a deep breath. Re-read the posts and you'll see the conclusion that everyone else has come to.  

Bro you realize that M'Ave is an FDNY jake that turns out of a busy station in The Bronx right?  Sounds like your're trying to argue with someone who has made multiple posts in this thread about experiencing the benefit of the pilot program first hand.
 
What's your end game here?