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From New Orleans Newspaper Times-Picaynne www.nola.com Nagin takes swipe at NYC in defending local recovery efforts From staff and wire reports Apparently annoyed with insinuations that New Orleans’ recovery is lagging, Mayor Ray Nagin takes a swipe at the pace of New York’s redevelopment of the World Trade Center site on a TV news show that will air Sunday. On a tour of wreckage in the devastated Lower 9th Ward, Nagin said much of the debris has been removed from public property. When a “60 Minutes” correspondent pointed out flood-damaged cars on the streets, Nagin shot back, “You guys in New York can’t get a hole in the ground fixed, and it’s five years later. So let’s be fair,” according to CBS. The program is scheduled to air Sunday night. Text and a video clip from the Nagin piece were posted on CBS’ Web site Thursday. Nagin’s comment apparently rankled some New Yorkers. The chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., the agency created to oversee the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site and downtown Manhattan, pointed out that New York sent firefighters, police officers and engineers to New Orleans to help in the days after the hurricane. “We understand how difficult rebuilding a city after such destruction can be,” Chairman Kevin Rampe said. Rampe said “tremendous progress” has been made in lower Manhattan, with the Freedom Tower, a transportation hub and a memorial to the nearly 3,000 attack victims now under construction. The agency is set to go out of business this fall after the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attack because it has completed its mission, Rampe said. A spokesman for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said lower Manhattan is thriving. “Record numbers of people live downtown, and new cultural attractions are making the area a vibrant, 24-hour-a-day community,” Stu Loeser said. “We wish the same bright future for New Orleans and continue to stand ready to provide any help we can, just as we did in the immediate aftermath of Katrina.” Nagin did not respond to an e-mail requesting comment. His spokeswoman, Ceeon Quiett, offered a more nuanced version of what the mayor intended with his remarks. “In this time of recovery and rebuilding, perspective is needed to help increase understanding about the journey — not sprint — involved in rebuilding this city,” she wrote. “New York City and New Orleans have experienced tragic devastation and loss of life in historic proportions and rebuilding and recovering will take time. At this sensitive time in our city, it is critical that we maintain our perspective and focus.” About 22 million tons of construction and demolition debris were created by Katrina. In comparison, Louisiana’s largest landfill handled only 1 million tons of debris in an average year. About 400 other facilities statewide were opened to handle the enormous amount of debris created by the storm and floodwaters. (Staff writer Gordon Russell contributed to this story. He can be reached at grussell@timespicayune.com or (504) 826-3300.) Send your thoughts to the kind mayor to: http://www.cityofno.com/Portals/Portal35/portal.aspx

This problem just keeps coming up again and again, just in different forms. Time to figure out an answer, hire! does that mean that say...bedford can afford to go out an hire a bunch of guys...maybe, but maybe not...that is where the BIG picture comes in. TIME to look outside the box!...consolidate...oh my...I said it...join smaller depts. and hire between them, get rid of the extra 12 rigs that cost 500g's or more a piece, have a combo. dept. with Vol. rig in each town/village and everyone is a member of the bigger dept. and not of a company...but a member of the DEPT. and all are equal. The bill is shared by both town/villages and you get better response, a combo dept. consolidated effort. The answer is to open your eyes and stop sticking your head in the ground and drop the fifedomes. This problem is not going away. Many of the smaller communities have the worst problem. They have no vols. but the call volume is not enough and the tax base is not enough to go paid....but the answer is to make the dept. bigger join the smallers depts. to grow, add call volume to justify, and have a larger tax base now to pay for guys. Insurance is now shared, so is buying power of a larger dept. can sell off duplicated engines, trucks, etc. Simple solution...just someone needs to get the *&(*^ to stand up an do it. And it shouldn't come from a disaster.

That is more of the line i am asking....is there a way or such thing that the IC portable can be on a channel that will transmitt over both fireground and trunking at same time and recieve both fireground and trunking at same time....

ffo26...the system you are speaking of in rockland now is similar to the one i described...first..why are they changing it...it seems to work and work well in rockland...and why can't they just do the same thing with a trunked system....? will need to have a trunked portable for each apparatus in case there is no officer and now the IC (chief or officer) will need 2 radios...I can't see how this is progress. Sorry if sounding a bit negative..just seems to be going backwards..not forward... to get back to tbendick...yes...the firefighter portables do pick up all radio traffic from control..which definiatly is a problem..but if the county just fixed that problem by switching all dispatch tones to 33.96 and then divided up 46.26, 14, 42 and the other freq. we have into battalions than that would limit the depts. on the same channel. This alone should have been done a LONNNGG time ago. Tones on one freq. and dispatch on another....and fireground on another...

they make repeaters that shut down all but the first one on scene...master and slave system so you don't have the problem you describe

no..the system i was refering to. you do not use more than one channel...and you do not speak on both freq. There is a repeater in the truck...I know Hartsdale uses this system so if someone knows this system they can explain it...the have portables on a fireground freq. and if they want to talk to control they can then go thru the repeater and it goes out over 46.26. if all depts. had just switched to this type of system (had each their own fireground) and the county had switched the depts. off 46.26 and broken them down to batt. each on a different freq. (.14, .26, .42, etc or switched to the UHF freq.) then it would have worked and not cost very much. Tones only over 33.96 and 33.06...I hope someone who knows a lot about these systems will enlighten me. Thanks for the reply's

I agree..but the current or old system that I described..the chief has one radio and uses it on one channel...can hear both control and fireground....when transmits...if switch in one position..then it is only fireground..and only fireground radios hear the message...if the switch in other position....then it goes out over a repeater and both fireground portables recieve and control...best of both worlds..and one radio...and simple....how can you hear 2 seperate radios at same time? can someone tell me if they could have done the same thing with the trunking system..instead of the switch turning the radio on to the repeater...couldn't they do the same where it now changed it over to the trunking system.....or why didn't they just utilize the repeater system and if they got more freq. and did the simple thing as it was supposed to have been set up....tones only on 33.96 and another freq. and then dispatch communications on 4 freq. set up by battalion and then the other 6 as the fireground. Sorry...not very knowledgable in the tech. of radios...but just seems this new system is not the best way to go.

can the county supplied radios have the 8 uhf freq. in them also...or is it only for trunked....and if so this is ludicris....how can anyone think this system is good if a chief or IC will carry and listen to 2 radios...they CANT'T and that thought of an aide...this isn't NYC and no paid dept. in westchester (maybe YFD) has the manpower to have someone be an aide and i can't see it happening in a vol. dept. either. Next, what if you go to a call and there is no officer and you are the IC. How do you talk to 60. You would need the ablility to talk on the trunked system. and no one knows who might be the senior FF at the scene at that time..so does everyone get one?...why can't they make it so that all portables have the ablility to talk on the trunked system if the switch (don't know the technical term) that was used to switch between repeater or not repeater use was used and if switched off would use a fireground frequency. correct me if wrong...but if a dept. had a simple system in which all portables had 6 frequencies and a repeater in the trucks. when they talked port. to portable it was on a fireground freq. (switch off) and the IC would then flip the switch on and would then be working through the repeater and could now talk to 60. Each portable could do the same but the FF's left their port. switch off so they only talked on fireground but heard both fireground and 60. this system is great.if they went to another dept. they just changed to the next fireground freq. the only downfall is that 46.26 was used for more than just IC stuff. Why not just fix the system simply...this is retarted. Please tell me how a simple fix has come to this and how is this going to be better...yes there won't be the confusion on 46.26 as now....but you are adding a whole second radio now for fireground...don't use a rube goldberg contraption to catch a mouse...the county seems like they can't do Anything right without screwing it up.....simple NOT COMPLEX

Sounds like some of you may have good knowledge of this system. Now I am asking about the westchester system specifically. Can someone tell me how this system works. I have spoken toa High ranking WCDES employee and as far as I am informed. each dept will recieve a mobil radio for each veh. (though some with like 50 utilities won't) and 3 portables. The system is a trunked system. the tones will still be dispatched over 46.26 and then communications with control will be on this system. Now the question. How does the IC speak with the men? I understand that each portable is like 5g's does each dept. have to go and purchase radios that work on this system. and are how do they talk to firefighters/fireground? what if the chief is not there...how can the IC speak to control? they have to have a trunked radio also? will IC's be walking around with 2 radios..one for control and one for fireground....that is the jist I actually got...that is in a word REDICULOUS...I hope i am misinformed...otherwise it appears the county bought another lemon like the computer system back in the 80's. Also..when the hell is the county going to have an information session on this....to explain the system....after it is implemented?

There are no requirements in NY...as usual !!! no standards...no training....buy a truck and call it a rescue and there you have it!

Engine 87 and R-12 still say NTFD also

The correct answer is...In the mid 90's..aprox. 1996, the village changed its name via a referendum. The village long believed it lacked an identity due to the fact that it was called North Tarrytown and shared its zip code with Tarrytown. Most people just combined the 2 in thought. This even though the 2 are in seperate towns (Mount Pleasant and Greenburgh). They changed the name but even today many people (as well as the fire apparatus) still refer to it as North Tarrytown.

Am I mistaken? Now when loggin in and view posts...it shows tons of them....not just the ones since last log in....is there a setting or way to show just those posts since last log in?