DaveTFD

whats the situation with the hut TL-78 is in right now? is there a limit to how long hitachi is going to let the fire department use that land? is there heat in that building yet for the winter? if i knew anything about building a firehouse i would have started building 3 years ago. the fact of the matter is that you are right. with all the construction the village is planning, it could be some time before we are in a building. in a little more than a year, the lease for consolidateds meeting trailor will be up and it will come down the the village making the decision to lease another trailor or finally build. last night i saw the finalized plans for the firehouse. right now we are waiting on the administrator and the chief to sign them and building could start as soon as june hopefully. i am fed up with the whole situation right now

its not really that i dissagree with you and fd7807 about looking toward the future as far as the buildings. but lets be honest about it here, do you think the village and the tax payers are going to pay and understand why they are paying for a 2 bay fire house right now for 1 piece of aparatus? in my opinion, the village board meetings will be 6 hours long with people yelling about wasting taxpayer money (not that i think its a waste of money) the chief of the department has a key role in keeping the 6 companies together as 1 department. last year we did not have that. this year i believe that chief scogna will be the 1 to bring everyone back together. not really sure what is going on with E-78's old building. i heard something about possibly housing utility 61 there. also its been discussed that fireboat 5's new home will be in the hut where E-77 is being housed right now. not sure about where they would put the hut tho. firecapt, 1 of your cousins is a member in my company. Edgar Brennen. it looks like you have more ties to the Tarrytown FD than i do lol.

its my understanding that tarrytown planned to buy an additional ladder for some time now. when hope hose (E-79) was up for a new aparatus it was discussed that they would be the ones to recieve the tower ladder. i am not sure exactly what happend but they got a pumper instead. when it came time around for washington engine to get a new truck the idea again was brought up because of a need for a ladder in the south end of the village. either way somebody was getting a ladder truck in this village to accompany truck 37. not sure if you have seen washington engines quarters on kaldinburg street (spelled it wrong) but it is very old and would not accomidate a bigger aparatus. i dont think anybody in the department is mad that 78 got the tower ladder because they train like animals and if a company had to get a ladder for the south end i am glad it was washington. you dont like the blue? haha. it takes some getting used to but it really is a beautiful truck.

ok, got the information for you for E-77. We have 27 active members, about 17 of them act as interior FF's. As far as updates, we have seen the newly updated plans for the 1 bay fire house where Consolidated Engine is to be, the plans are set on the corner of medow street and sheldon avenue. it is a modest building but still very nice and 10000x better than what we have now. Buster, I hope the conference went well. see you in the forums

sorry it took me so long to answer. i cant answer for TL-78 and ill check on an exact number for E-77's. id hate to give you a number thats not accurate. i have a lot going on right now so just give me a few days and ill get back to you.

firecapt, i dont think the board is excluding members for the vote by fd connections. like u said, there would not be a vote if they did that. the word from the mayor is that the state says trustees hoyt and basher cant vote because they are both members of the fire department and hoyt espeacially being a member of consolidated as well as the vice president of the company. from what i know right now, the vote will be between trustees clarice pallock, tom butler, doug zollo, mary mcgee, and mayor fixell. i guess we will see how it goes. psyicals and cert training are done every year followed by the fit test. every active member eligible for pension made their osha hours last year and we are 3/4 the way done with them this year (still need to do some ground ladder work and turn out gear) chief scogna just brought up the nims to us at the last officers meeting. we all have to have it done by 2007 and i believe it is an online test. also every active driver who is eligible for pension has completed evoc. they did it not too long ago in irvington. every driver did it not because they had to but because the chief driver suggested it. the last time the by laws were updated completly was before i became a department member. but for the last year or so there has been a by-law commitee who has drafted and updated a new set of department by laws. have a good trip, talk to you when you get back

when you say "looking toward the future" what exactly do you mean other than what i have posted before in the forum. trucks will get bigger but really only in the sense that they get longer. fire aparatus have to be DOT complyant (i did not spell that right) and i believe both washington engine's (now TL-78) building and E-77's building will be built with extra space behind the engine or tower ladder to accomidate a longer aparatus in the future. people cant use that as an excuse not to build a fire house when that is only a matter of a few feet behind where the aparatus sits. i happend to see one of these neighbors today and she said something very funny to me "that new tower ladder cant even fit on the streets in this village and that company only has 5 guys in it". this isent the first time i heard something like this about TL-78's membership and the last time i did i went to a village board meeting and told them how wrong they were. FD7807, correct me if i am wrong but TL-78 has 1 of the biggest memberships in the department right? also they have a ton of new guys who they are just training now. this just proves how ignorant people really are and they try to pass off their oppinions and heresay as facts. with this whole issue, we will see what happens. last i heard the board is going to be putting it to a vote with the excusion of bobby hoyt and tom basher because they are department members. hopefully all goes in favor of the fire department and E-77 and TL-78 both have new homes.

the space on medow street where consolidated quarters are planned to be is too small for a 2 bay. if we take anymore room then it will be cutting into the day care centers playground and then the entire department looks like scum for taking away childrens playgrounds. i really dont think the comment about being "a bunch of drunks" came from my company's soda machine whether it only has soda or not. FD7807 is right, it came from 1 specific neighbor with a problem with 2 or 3 of our guys. i wish i could take it with a grain of salt but i cant stand these people when they say "its not personal" and then turn around and tell me we are a bunch of drunks. isent that making it personal?

i dont debate that high ceilings are great to fit both engines and ladder trucks, the point i was making was that it costs more to make the ceiling high while still having a second floor. i respect your opinion about companies sharing. i hate to beat a dead horse here, but 1 of the 2 main factors of 77 being put where it is, is the response time issue for its membership. 77 is placed on that side of 119 for a reason, its a strategical placement for that engine. believe me, 77 does not hate TL-78! thats all propaganda started by the neighbors who protest the fire house. the officers and members of both companies get along very nicely with eachother. its not about that. its about 1. the cheaper cost of building 2 buildings instead of 1 (i dident make that up, research and studies show that the savings is 770,000. check out my last post for the reasons why given to us by the architect) and 2. like i said before, 77 is strategically placed on that side of 119 to get quick access to the thruway, the south end, and the glenville protection district. i dont feel like you are critisizing me or my company or the chiefs in my department or the village of tarrytown, so feel free to ask questions. your opinion is yours and i wont try to bend it till it matches mine. however i will give you the facts you are looking for when you ask questions.

the village already pays for heating, electricity, etc. for all fire houses in the village. thats not even been brought up because i assume people dont mind that a small portion of their tax dollars goes to these things when this is a volunteer department. I dont have numbers for you on how much it costs to heat our temporary fire house and the hut where the truck is, but if u really want i will try to find out. tarrytown ambulance is not part of the village technically, they are a separate agency entirely with no village funding. no answer for you about a police substation. sorry. the old village board looked into how to cut down the 2bay firehouse on 119. it was explained in a board meeting my sean mccarthy who is the architect. 2 bay fire houses need a long hall way close to the middle, this hallway needs to be reinforced with baring walls (which makes it more expensive). also we would have 1 meeting room for E-77, 1 meeting room for TL-78, 2 separate kitchens, 4 bathrooms in total (1 mens on the first floor and second floor, 1 womans on the first and second floor). that is the bare minimum that sean mccarthy said we need to have according to the state. i am not mad at the neighbors when they say they do not want their child to be hit by a fire truck. i am sure it is a legitament concern. the thing i get mad at is when the neighbors tell my company we are "a bunch of drunks" and other personal attacks like that. its just unneccisary membership has expanded. tarrytown now takes members from sleepy hollow, elmsford, and irvington. we will not go door to door on white plains road and ask people to join, but they are all aware this is a volunteer department that needs members because they all get the pamphlet every year. if you think there are "still a lot of unanswered questions" ask them. ime not shy on the subject and i know from posts with you in the past, you arent either. if i dont know the answer to 1 of your questions, i will find some1 who does and have them respond to you.

lfdR1, I have a few answers for firecapt32 and all you guys, "where will they put 77 while the new station is being built?? are they planning for any future expansion for either one of the stations. Tarrytown already has a trailer with no home as well as a converted truck with extra things parked next to riverside hose." 77's aparatus will most likely remain where it is when the building is being constructed, but the trailor for meetings will be moved and we will use riverside hose for meetings (but thats not definate). are we planning for future expansion? yes, 77 will remain an engine company so the truck does not get much wider, and the building is made with extra space in the engine room to make room for a possibly longer truck in the future, as well as extra height. Yes Tarrytown has a trailor and as disgusting as it seems to some people, we still take pride in it and call it home for the time being. also i cant really comment on utility truck 61 because i do not know what the plans for it are. neighbors are actually protesting the site on medow street for consolidated engine. i do not agree with their concern for their children being hit by a fire truck, but i respect it because anything is possible. TL78 had a very nice ground breaking ceremony on 119 and then all men and aparatus went down the hill to medow street for E-77's ground breaking ceremony and were met by protestors screaming in our faces and personally attacking our chief. needless to say, chief scogna is a better man than i am because i would have yelled back at them. why are 2 fire houses cheaper than 1? - the site on 119 where TL-78 is being placed is on a parking lot. under the parking lot is solid rock. The money it would take for crews to dig up all that rock is huge. - TL-78 obviosly needs a higher ceiling for their ladder and bucket to fit in, E-77 does not need this ceiling space and you cant have 2 different ceiling heights. it is more expensive for the higher ceiling - when TL-78 and E-77 were going over living together in the 2 bay house, both companies aggreed that it would be better if we had a dividing wall down the middle. (people saying that is because we do not get along with TL-78 members is completly BS) the wall in the middle would be a baring wall and that costs more money - the property donated to the village in actuality is not that big when you consider the size of a 2 bay fire house and parking for the members. if we were to have the 2 bay house we would have to find more land somewhere. - there is no price on a life. a fire in the south end of the village breaks out right now and it will take me 43 seconds to get into my aparatus (yes i timed it) moving E-77 to 119 it will take me 3 minutes and 46 seconds (again yes i timed it). these times are just for me, not for the driver who operates the pump. by the time 911 is called, the fire has already been moving for about 5 minutes. 911 transfers to county control, county control transfers to tarrytown police, tarrytown police page out for the fire department. it is an educated guess that 15 minutes will pass from the time the fire starts to the time the first engine is on scene. that is a long long time if someone is stuck on the fire floor with no way out except jumping. leaving the engine where it is now, that response time will be under 8 minutes and you can take that to the bank. i hope i answered some questions for you guys, feel free to keep asking more. thanks to everybody who gave some support in the forums

66Alpha1 is right, there is no good study guide you can buy for the test. the best way to go into the test is calm and confident and if you arent already doing it, see if you can get on site scoring because it will make you feel better when you know if you passed or failed right after the test. a good portion of the test is knowing correct stable vital signs for different age groups. make sure you review that and know what normal vital signs there are for adults, children, and infants. also review your obgyn questions because there usually are a good amount of questions on that. cpr is really not on there that much, you might catch 1 or 2 questions on it. burns and care for burns will be on there too so look over notes on that. other than that, READ YOUR QUESTIONS CAREFULLY! the state is known for making wording hard on this test so read the question 2-3 times and then answer. you get a lot of time for the test so take your time good luck to you, really its not that bad of a test so dont let your nerves get to you

Date: 3/25/06 Time:1438 Location: Bayer Labs Frequency: Tarrytown Highway Units Operating: 2462,2463, E-76,E-77,TL-78,E-79,E-80, Elmsford Engine Description Of Incident: Large Brush Fire on hill Writer: DaveTFD 1438- Alarm 1-6 transmitted for E-77 to respond to Bayer Labs on the hill for a minor brush fire 1440- 2462 10-19 requesting a second minor alarm 1-1 be put out for E-80 to respond with man power. E-77 responding 1442- E-77 10-19, E-80 responding. Small brush fire spread due to wind about 1 mile up the steep hill. Fire now covering large area of woods. 2462 requests Tarrytown Fire Comm. to put out a general alarm and to put Sleepy Hollow engine on stand-by in Main Street fire headquarters. 1444- E-80 10-19 hitting hydrant. Incoming units advised to enter Dunnings drive and extend lines through that side. Fire continues to spread and moving fast due to dry leaves and wind. 2463 10-19 Dunnings drive. E-76, TL-78, E-79 responding 1447- E-76, TL-78, E-79 10-19 Dunnings drive. 2462 requests all man power to enter woods with tools and hand lines to be extended. Fire still spreading 1458- Elmsford chief advises 60-control that one of their engines with man power is operating at the near by marriot hotel and requests to know if they are needed. 2462 advises the Elmsford engine to respond to Dunnings drive for man power. 1540- fire spread cut off 1550- fire k/d. 2462 orders all area to be wet down throughly 1615- as per 2462 all units can pick up and return with thanks to Elmsford Fire and Sleepy Hollow near by neighbors say the fire was caused by 3 kids setting off fire crackers in the dry leaves

Date: 03/18/06 Time: 1324 Location: 24 South Washington Street Frequency: Tarrytown Highway Units Operating: 2462, E-76, E-77, TL-78, E-79, E-80, L-37. Irvington Rescue, 2201 Description Of Incident: Fire in house Writer: DaveTFD 1324- Tarrytown units dispatched to a report of a fire in a house located in the basement 1325- 2462, E-79, E-80 responding 1326- E-79 on scene, E-76, L-37, TL78 responding 1327- 2462 on scene with E-80 reporting fire in the basement of the home. 2462 requests 80 to enter building, and for PD to put out alarm 16 for E-77 to respond with man power, and for Irvington Cascade truck to respond. E-76, L-37 on scene 1328- TL-78 on scene, E-77 responding 1333- as per 2462, fire K/D checking for extension. 2462 requests C/O from county to respond 1354- E-77, TL-78, E-76, can pick up and return as per 2462 1413- All remaining units clear of scene

Date: 03/14/06 Time:1006 Location: I-87 Southbound by I-287 split Frequency: Units Operating: 2462, E-77, TL-78, Tarrytown VAC Description Of Incident: MVA w/ pin Writer: DaveTFD 1006: Tarrytown units paged out by Tarrytown Police to respond to I-87 south bound by the I-287 split for a MVA with entrapment and possible fire 1009: 2462 on scene reporting 1 trapped occupant in vehicle, car rolled on its roof and no fire showing 1010: E-77 on scene stabilizing car 1013: TL-78 on scene with Tarrytown VAC on impact of roll over, doors popped open. pt stuck upside down with head pinned between roof and car seat. rear of car not accessible. Tarrytown VAC and Fire slid board through the back door to move pt 1037: pt removed from car and enroute to WCMC 1103: all Tarrytown units clear of the thruway

when you get a call for an emotionally disturbed person do you assume they are violent? what precautions do you take? personally i have had a few bad experiences with EDP's, 3 days after i got my EMT cert i went on a call for an EDP. it was a 17 yr old male. he wasent acting up at all, and we even carried a good conversation. when we got into the ambulance PD asked me if i wanted a ride along and stupidly i said no. enroute to the hospital the kid pulled a knife on me and almost stabbed me. i was able to restrain him but in the process i broke 2 of his fingers by accident. now when i get an edp i always take a cop with me, i have him patted down before we get into the ambulance, at the first sign of violence he is restrained and i put a NRB on his face so he cant bite or spit at me. what do u guys do?

when you take the class you are eligible for 5 credits, but you have to pay for the credits. your instructor will tell you everything you need to know. i hope you get Mcveigh as your instructor, hes the best there is

Date: 2-6-06 Time: 0933 Location: I-87 south bound mm 11.5 (Tarrytown) Frequency: Units Operating: 2461, 2462, E-77, TL-78, E-79, TVAC 81-B1 Description Of Incident: possibly 5-6 car MVA with pin involving tractor trailor Writer: DaveTFD 0933: 60 control requests Tarrytown units to respond to 87 south mile marker 11.5 for possibe 5-6 car MVA with pin involving tractor trailor 0939: Tarrytown units on scene reporting 2 cars involved, 1 tractor trailor, 1 person pinned 0950: occupant extricated from vehicle and in care of by Tarrytown ambulance 81-B1 0957: ambulance enroute to WCMC. Speedy dry put down for vehicle fluids in the road 1018: all units clear of thruway

towels work beautifully espeacially in a "move quick" scenario. 1 or 2 on each side of the head taped in the obvious places and wrapped around the board. towels will stay with a persons head even if there is some movement. try it out and let me know what you think

ime not sure but my best guess is to contact captain mike coffey about it. he would prolly know where to get his hands on some extra shirts for you

heres my question for you: do you really have to notify the hospital you are enroute to that you are coming? or is it just a nice thing to do. when i took my EMT cert i was taught that it was just a nice thing to do, but when you get out into the feild hospital nurses will do everything short of attack you if you dont. so do you or dont you have to?

Date: 12/17/05 Time: 2014hrs Location: county house road and tarrytown lakes Frequency: Tarrytown highway Units Operating: car 2462, E-77, E-78, U-61 Description Of Incident: MVA with Extrication Writer: 2014: E-77 and E-78 dispatched to MVA with extrication 2018: car 2462 requests E-77 to expedite with hurst tool 2019: E-77 and E-78 on scene. Tarrytown Ambulance 81-B1, and Sleepy Hollow Ambulance 73-B1 operating at scene. car with 4 seriously injured occupants from head on collision. 2024: STAT flight requested by captain 81-B1 and additional greenburgh paramedics to respond. Irvington ambulance 64-B1 requested to respond also 2033: all occupants extricated from vehicle and transported to westchester medical center 2042: county AIU to respond 2145: E-78 released by 2462. E-77 and U-61 to stand by 2330: E-77 and U-61 ordered to pick up and return by car 2462

not saying this incident happend, but ime curious you get a call for a mva involving a motorcycle. u get on scene to a 27 yr old male, compound fracture to L-femur, broken L-arm/R-wrist, helmet on and not badly damaged but strap is choking pt slightly. LOCx4 minutes reportedly going in excess of 80 mph in street race with other motor cycle and hit concrete barrior. - lung sounds on left side. spo2 68, pulse 120, bp 86/72, resps 26 labored. we all know wut to do with that so far. ALS was on board... we get to trama center heres where i wanna know wut your would do- unloading the patient from the back there is a newer guy who might have been rushing a little bit and he did not let the legs of the stretcher lock, the pt and the entire stretcher hit the ground. you are the crew chief, how do u write that up?

without turning this into a rant from any1 because it is a ligit question from me, is there really hostility between paid and volunteer departments? i mean, if fairview has a structure fire, would they not call elmsford because they are volunteer? and if they did would there be tension? ive never experienced this because i am surrounded by volunteer departments and we all have mutal respect for eachother. agian no ranting please and keep it friendly between the paid and volunteer guys/girls

i stopped down at the wet down for a few minutes. i couldent stay long but the TL is pretty nice. the captain Mike Coffey and all the members are working and training pretty hard on the truck and it should be a nice addition. id hate to be the one driving that truck tho. 11 feet behind the rear axel is pretty big.