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Are you saying that you have personally witnessed F.D. personnel who responded to the scene of an EMS incident and did not provide the level of care that they are certified by the state to provide?

Never Forget Our Fallen * 23 N.Y.P.D. * 37 P.A.P.D. * 343 F.D.N.Y. * Never Forgive Those Who Attacked America Never Forget 9/11/2001 God Bless Our Troops ...

Funny satire by Jon Stewart but a sad commentary about H.R.847 - James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010 http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/tue-april-26-2011-elizabeth-warren

I agree 'Grumpyff'. I've been a member of the GOP for 35 years. Over that period of time, the GOP has more & more become the party of wealthy CEO's. Early on I wondered why these rich draft dodgers would want a job that paid less than $200,000; then the reason became obvious: the goal of the GOP is to elect a sufficient number of rich corporate types so as to be able to crush the middle class by ridding the country of unions, privatizing government services, ending defined benefit pensions, reducing or eliminating employer support for medical benefits and cutting taxes for wealthy Americans and wealthy corporations on the backs of the middle class. These are the same politicians who sought out every chance for a photo op with their arm around the shoulder of a cop or firefighter post 9/11. They all suck.

It's good to hear that this was corrected as it was a common practice back then. As a matter of fact, it was also being done by N.Y.C. (H.H.C.) E.M.S. back then (I worked for them as a Corpsman from 1978 -1981). I also found it necessary while working for H.H.C. - E.M.S. to make friends with the ER nurses in order to stock my kit with 'luxury items' such as B.V.M.'s, non-re-breathers, kling and combine dressings. And then it was off to save lives driving my 'Bread Box' Ambulance Truck ... Ha-ha-ha ...

All personnel assigned to the company (in this case 17 Truck) are trained to wear CPC. If required at an incident, the Ladder Company responds with their regularly assigned rig as well as the CPC vehicle.

Back in 1977 -1978 I worked for a private ambulance company in Brooklyn. They maintained one complete set of equipment that met the N.Y.S. requirement for certification. When an ambulance was due to be inspected, they would equip it. As soon as it passed, the equipment was removed and placed into storage. Many of their units carried no B.V.M., no medical kit, just a stretcher, an 'E' tank with a regulator, a medium concentration O2 mask & cannula, 'chuck pads', emesis basin, urinal and a few gauze pads. I carried my own kit which was stocked with supplies provided by friendly ER nurses. Back then it didn't appear that being N.Y.S. Certified meant anything at all.

It's been nearly ten years and the actions of the terrorists on that horrible day are still killing good, patriotic, middle class Americans ... My link

You are so right Gonz. Today's elected officials are mostly millionaires (many are CEO's) who have no contact with the middle class and look down upon all of us as mere 'serf's'. I will never forget last December when congressional and senate Republicans held the 'Zadroga - 9/11 Health Bill' hostage and refused to vote for it until Democrats agreed to support the Republican demand to continue tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. Once the Republicans got what they wanted for their wealthy campaign contributors they then cut the funding in half for the 9/11 Bill and finally passed it with some Republicans still not in support.

It's sickening to see how 9/11 responders have been basically ignored by 'our' elected officials. It's been said time and again that we are being treated the same way that our Vietnam veterans were when they became aware that they had been exposed to agent orange. The government dragged its feet until a sufficient number of these American war heroes had died before they began to take any action at all.

The money behind the union busting by Metro-Broward Professional Firefighters Local 3080 on Friday, April 1, 2011 at 5:50am The Koch brothers inherited their company, "Koch Industries" from their father and are worth over 20 billion dollars each. They own a "small business" that has over 80,000 employees and grosses over 100 billion dollars per year, and they are fighting to keep their taxes down by financing the TEA Party, Republicans and many projects which support the most right-wing groups in the country. They can't afford to pay taxes, but they can afford to give millions to Republican and TEA Party candidates and elected officials, and to groups which make and distribute the most vicious attacks on the working class people of America. You may have heard that the richest 400 Americans own as much as 150,000,000 Americans. These are two of that 400. How much is enough? Here is a list of Koch Brothers products. The money behind the union busting and the war on the middle-class in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, New Jersey, Florida and many other states! Angel Soft toilet paper Brawny paper towels Dixie plates, bowls, napkins & cups Mardi Gras napkins and towels Quilted Northern toilet paper Soft 'n Gentle toilet paper Sparkle napkins Vanity fair napkins Zee napkins Georgia-Pacific paper products & envelopes All Georgia-Pacific lumber & building products (INVISTA Products) Lycra Stainmaster Carpet

Kerik is right where he belongs. And to think Giulliani got G.W. Bush to nominate this felon to lead The Department of Homeland Security ... What a pathetic group. My link

Anyway ... As I said, I'm truly pleased that N.Y.P.D.'s Commissioner Kerik has been ordered to serve his entire term in prison. Karma is a beautiful thing.

You really have to wonder what makes some people who choose this field of endeavor tick? I feel for the young lady's family but the blame lies squarely upon the retired P.O. / EMT rather than on Facebook. When citizens read articles such as the ones written about the actions of this guy, it puts a black mark on lot's of good folks who do the right thing. My link

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March 25th is the 100th Anniversary of this horrendous tragedy. The deaths of these innocent workers resulted in strengthening collective bargaining, as well as Building Codes. This act of mass murder allowed the labor movement to kick into gear. Business owners who looked upon their hard working employees as nothing more than petty servants now were going to be forced to do what they would never do voluntarily: create and maintain clean / safe workplaces and compensate the people (who made their great wealth possible) with a living wage, fair benefits and the chance to retire with a pension at the end of their productive careers. Now it's 100 years later and the rich corporate thugs and greedy (corporate supported) politicians of our country are trying to undue all of the good that grew from this terrible tragedy. Republican elected officials across our country who were elected on the backs of expensive (corporate financed) campaigns are now following through with their payoffs to their wealthy campaign contributors in the form of: -Attacks on unions, pitting the middle class against one another ... non-union vs. union, private sector vs. public sector in an effort to 'divide and conquer' the middle class. -Taking away pensions or making the employees contribute more than what they contractually had agreed to. -Taking away health benefits or charging the employees more than what they contractually had agreed to. -Raising the retirement age to force employees to work way later in life then they should have to. AND ... They are attacking fire departments by closing down firehouses, eliminating units, laying off firefighters, cutting staffing on units, etc. NEVER FORGET ... -The fire department was the first line of defense for those terrified, trapped, dying workers 100 years ago on March 25th. -The fire department was the first line of defense for those terrified, trapped, dying people killed 21 years ago on March 25th (87 dead: Happyland Social Club, Bronx, N.Y.) -The fire department was the first line of defense for those terrified, trapped, dying people in the World Trade Center both in 1993 and 2001. -The fire department was the first line of defense for those terrified, trapped, dying victims in the plane and on the ground on November 12, 2001 (266 killed) in the crash of American Airlines Flight 587 Rockaway Queens, N.Y. -The fire department was the first line of defense at nuclear disasters in Russia on April 26, 1986 and currently in Japan. The middle class needs to wake up and not allow the far too wealthy of our country to destroy the health, safety, financial future and the way of life of America's backbone ... The Middle Class

No firefighter should get off the rig at a run without reliable portable lighting for personal safety as well as operational efficiency. I too always had a Streamlight Survivor on my coat, and a Power Plus handlight on a seatbelt. In addition, I kept a small halogen (2 AA battery) streamlight in my coat pocket (useful at lengthy operations in subway tunnels as well as long walks up in high rise buildings) You never know when you will operate at an incident that outlasts the charge on your primary light.

Apparently these kids are 'wanna be's' who either can't pass the test for P.D., F.D. or E.M.S. - OR - who don't want to be on the job at all ... maybe they just want to dress the part, run around in an official looking vehicle with flashing lights and a siren and hang out inside police & fire lines 'looking important'.

I agree ... I feel for all of the law enforcement folks who responded to the incident. This is a traumatic event that will never leave them. As far as what (if any) part the retired N.Y.P.D. sergeant played in the events that led to the officer being shot ... I certainly don't know. From the statement of the Nassau PBA president it sounds like this guy is a buff who follows the officers around with a scanner and sticks his nose where it doesn't belong. I assume that he hadn't been charged with interfering in the past as a 'professional courtesy'.

WOW ... if this is true, I wonder what if any action will be taken against the N.Y.P.D. Emergency Services Officer (retired) who allegedly 'buffed' the call and then interfered with the police officers who were handling a dangerous scene... Condolences to the family and friends of the deceased officer, may he rest in peace. What a terrible and possibly avoidable tragedy.

They appear to be a small group of buffs who have taken their hobby to a ridiculous level. I am not aware of them having any official affiliation with any N.Y.C. agency. It seems like these (Police - Fire - E.M.S. - Search & Rescue - Command Post - Scene Lighting, etc. "Fans", Sparks", "Buffs", "Impostors" ...) have found themselves with too much time on their hands and spare cash in their pockets and decided to purchase a large quantity of official looking stuff (radios, lights, vehicles, etc.). They have creatively lettered their somewhat official looking vehicle to look like an F.D.N.Y. SUV and put together a Facebook page and a website full of photos of the same couple of young looking kids standing in the background at various emergency scenes. How long it will take for the N.Y.P.D. or the Fire Marshall's to look below the surface and figure out that they are not on scene in an official capacity and should not be inside Police or Fire Lines ... They seem to be similar to this 'group': My link

May the Police Officer rest in peace ... The paper says he was killed by a 'career criminal' ... Why are swine like that continually put back on the streets where they can hurt or kill innocent people?

July 4th back in the 1980's would generally find F.D.N.Y. strapped for resources due to a tremendous amount of fireworks related structural fires. Even with additional reserve companies in service, the workload was ridiculous. That being said, barring very unusual circumstances the F.D.N.Y. is a tremendous resource that can arrive at an incident within minutes with trained, experienced personnel and the equipment that goes along with it.

In the event of major fires, technical rescues and MCI's, Westchester County Departments that border the Bronx can rely upon mutual aid resources from F.D.N.Y.. But, there are probably more areas in N.Y.S. than not that would be hard pressed to deal with a major transportation incident (bus, train, commercial airliner) in a timely ('Golden Hour' ... if they still call it that ...) manner. As pointed out in this thread, such incidents require the immediate response of large numbers of Fire and EMS personnel for scene safety / hazard control, FAST, fire protection, patient care, gaining access, disentanglement, extrication, treatment and transportation of the injured. There are lot's of other issues that also need to be addressed (traffic & crowd control, coroner / temporary morgue, utility company, heavy tow, DOT and the list goes on). As has already been pointed out, this is not a shot at the individual knowledge, skills and dedication of Fire and EMS personnel in such locations ... it's just acknowledging the reality that many areas are not staffed and equipped to do what needs to be done when a 'nightmare' occurs in their response area.