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Very good point. I think we should all take a long look in the mirror every now and then. There is always room for improvement in the fire service and those who say they are perfect are usually the worst offender. To answer seths question, I really don't think they know what they expect. There have been plenty of times I have gone on an ems run and the patient and family didn't even know their taxes pay for the medic. Do they deserve more? No. All the people we serve should be getting the same top notch professional service no matter who serves them, where they are or how much they pay. I am a firm believer that if you show the public what their money pays for they complain less about spending it. For arguement sake, lets say your local department just spent $5000.00 on a new saw blade. Seems to be a bit much? Now lets say this blade is a long life, self sharpening blade that can get through the metal of a car in a 1/4 of the time shortening the amount of time needed for an extrication. Seems like it was worth it right? Maybe a poor example but I think you guys can see where I am going here.

I run with a 1044 issued by my dept, and have a personal 1010. Both are good, I just like the finished look of the 1010 better. Not a fan of the defender eye shields, don't fit over my specs. If you are looking for light weight, both are fine, but as ugly as they are the old 660 is the lightest.

Secret public fire dist elections? As another member pointed out already, they are announced with a legal notice in the news paper as required by law. I'm sorry if you feel you are getting screwed by your dist. but I fail to see where this has any relevance to the topic. Now for the topic at hand, This was the way that Mahopac FD and I'm sure the family wanted to honor a respected member who was murdered. If you would have done so differently than so be it. Instead of tearing them apart, why don't we practice some of this "brotherhood" that so many of you claim to beleive in and show our support to the Mahopac FD as they mourn the loss of a beloved member. Or did we all forget that during this battle of egos? To the Mahopac FD members, My deepest condolences. If anything is needed feel free to PM me.

Looks like most of this is covered by OSHA training no? Good info though. If you wouldn;t mind can you PM me a link where I can find this info?

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After speaking briefly with one of the moderators I have decided to go ahead and start this thread. This was a thought I have been contemplating for quite some time. I travel the TSP everyday to work and often ask myself as I pass a trooper on a traffic stop, "Why don't these guys wear the safety vests?" DOT requires that emergency personnel operating on roadways wear an ANSI approved traffic safety vest. My thought is, If we wear them with FD and EMS, than why dont LEO's wear them? I understand the tactical aspect of the job may be inhibited by the vest but as far as a traffic stop or detail, why not have it on? Thanks for the input folks and as always, Stay Safe out there!

How do they even discover these things???????????????????

GENIUS! That may have been one of the worst decisions I have seen someone make in quite some time.

Thanks for the input guys. I want to try and reach out to members that are LEO's here and get their input. I will stress the point that this thread is in no way ment to criticize or offend in any way how law enforcement operates or their practices. This is just an honest thought i have been mulling over for quite some time.

Thats more or less what I am asking here. Do they have them and why dont they use them??? Not only Troopers, but local LEO's as well.

Yeah... Origional post was supposed to show a 2-1-1 assaginment... Brain fart, sorry.

We have the immersion chairs on our rehab rig so for now if PCVAC need them they are only a phone call away. Good job on the set up guys. Lets hope we don't need it!

You should try and understand him in person... Almost impossible! Fortunately, I speak Tominese. What he was suggesting is setting the tri-village departments up to operate on alarm assaginments as though each department were simply a station rather than an independant agency. For example: activated alarm at 123 fake street in montrose, montrose would roll an engine, verplanck a truck and buchanan a rescue. Alittle overkill for an AFA i know, just trying to explain the confusion that was a tommy thought.

I see where you are going Seth and think that you chose a great topic to spark some discussion, even though it may have ruffeled some feathers. I agree with your thoughts and have also thought for a long time that the tri-village would benefit from some type of merger. On a side note, Verplancks Bronto sky lift (not a fan by the way...just saying) was donated by Entergy, but is maintained on the tax payers dime.

Nice shots! Love the demo of throwing water on the greese fire.

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Like I said... Lets not have an arguement. Instead lets understand the points others are making and try to agree or make reasonable debates. I feel that BBBMF made a good point here and it is something worth talking about.

My prayers go out to the officer and the PMPD. I also pray for this young lady and her family. This cannot be an easy thing to deal with.

You make a good point here. I could see this working with proper SOG's in place. As was said, yes there is a pride issue in each department but I have felt for many years that a merger would best benefit all tax payers in the dist. I do see that some people are getting alittle upset by the conversation and would just like to quickly remind them that the origional poster stated he was just looking to start a conversation, so lets have one of those instead of trying to argue.

Sounds like a good concept so far... Curious about the opinion of the LEOs here...

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Hey, congrats brother! Keep living the dream and never give up! BTW... getting married next year and need a ride to FL for the honeymoon... You available? lol

You are in my prayers capt. Get well soon and god bless!

The best thing to do would be to ask the chief of the department what you would be allowed to do.

Well Said! I too enjoy the educational value found in these forums and have grown mighty tired of the constant banter and bashing. I commend you for saying what needed to be said long ago! For that sir, a rep...