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You have read about these. Were you there or are you just going off what you saw and heard in a Fire magazine or on the internet? I ask the question, were the write ups objective or were they written up by someone with an anti-PD agenda or anti-PD sentiments? Obviously video doesn't lie but even a video may not catch the whole scene and just pieces of it. I have seen first hand and read the other side of the fence, with FD members doing ridiculous things at rescues to jeopardize their own safety and the safety of others. Difference is PD doesn't run to the media, a Law Enforcement magazine, or EMTBravo to b**** and mock FD about it. I personally have no problem with Firefighters. They're there to do a job just like everyone else in emergency services. My issue lies with the minority of Firefighters who have the biggest mouths and have nothing better to do but troll the internet and b**** and complain every time they perceive someone else is doing their job. The facts have been exhausted here numerous times, so I'm not going to waste my breath, but many local PD's (including NYC and WCPD) were tasked with performing rescue work long before many FD's. Bitching about PD continuing in the rescue field is like EMS bitching about FD's encroaching on their "turf" when all these FD's want to get into the EMS first response business. Is the arguement valid? As an EMS provider, personally I'd rather not have FD show up on my jobs, but I'm not going to knock them for it because in the end it's what's best for public safety. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

Wow, surprised it took that long for a member of the fire service to chime in with a comment....

As far as I know, with all the studies and varying opinions on Taser use and prehospital medical management, the REMAC probably couldn't come to a decision on a formal treatment protocol because I haven't heard anything about it since then. This leaves the decision up to the individual provider. Since everything nowadays is so "litigation conscious", I couldn't see a protocol that didn't require you to work up the patient ALS, even though in most cases it's completely unnecessary.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/close_broken_traps_rescues_family_80AKsFrKholGJ2Cy3YvSKN Based on certain peoples sentiments here, I guess they should have just sat around and waited.... Kudos on a great job well done

The Westchester REMAC did put out a position statement a few years back, but all I honestly recall from it was that prehospital providers were not permitted to remove the barbs because they were considered impaled object (a little ridiculous if you ask me). http://www.wremsco.org/REMAC_Meeting_DOCs/remac-mtg-2007-9-17.pdf

Good luck with that one BNechis. Firefighters would be in an uproar in certain parts of the County if law enforcement tried to keep a "brother firefighter" away from a great buffy photo op. Some liberal crybaby would be wailing that the police were infringing on their rights to photo some poor persons house burning to the ground.

Oh boy I hope they did cause they were oh so close to the fire. Please.... Does that mean we should make every buff who lurks around a fire scene to take pictures throw on turnout gear?

We know now that no one was in danger. Was that outright apparent when the units first arrived on scene and the Troopers were asked to help? Was it known if the house was occupied or unoccupied? You're looking at a photograph that was taken how long into the operation? If a firefighter chooses to make an adult decision to pull over a suspected drunk driver, and potentially prevents an accident or innocent person from being injured/killed, I'll say my thanks, and take over. I won't ridicule them for helping.... But I guess that's the difference between the two professions.

And yet everyone (including myself) applauded members of the FDNY for backing up and assisting NYPD officers in Staten Island who were faced with a large unruly crowd. Who's guarding the hen house? The other Troopers working. Those Troopers most likely would have been assigned to the fire scene anyways. If a Firefighter taking one of my guns to help me in a firefight saves my ass or someone else's, I'm good with it. These Troopers didn't take the hose from anyone's hands, they were asked by the Fire Chief to help. Any cop would have stepped up and did the right thing. The simple fact is web the crap hits the fan, emergency service providers step up and do the right thing for the communities we serve and for our fellow emergency service providers. These Troopers were not tasked with an interior attack, they were tasked with spraying some water on a fire from well outside the structure because the FD didn't have the manpower. If I was a homeowner, I'd be pretty damn grateful.

If you read the medical studies, the majority of tased individuals don't require any medical follow-up unless there are certain compounding circumstances (injury sustained from a fall, individuals who are suspected of being under the influence of narcotics). A routine part of Taser training results in students going for "the ride". How many students are routinely transported for medical evaluation? If you are the fortunate subject of a taser deployment, are you really injured? Hurts like hell for the 5 seconds the taser is cycling, but once the device cycles, the overwhelming majority of subjects are fine, with no adverse effects.

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No problem, you're right on....

NYS VTL states an authorized emergency vehicle (encompasses PD, FD, and EMS) may exceed maximum speed limits so long as he does not endanger life or property. VTL 1104 C (3) There is no defined speed above the speed limit.

From the article sounds like it was a Chief's vehicle that was involved, not a POV.

Goes along with the thread about the Fire Chief who conducts speed measurement of his responding members vehicles. http://www.lohud.com/article/20120417/NEWS/304160123/Jury-awards-woman-825G-crash-firefighter?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Frontpage|s

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You are correct

It's no surprise... It's the "in thing" in society today to hate the police. Just look at the honest, unbiased reporting by our local and national media outlets.

#5- Drill itself should be a realistic scenario. Not a nuclear explosion that occurs while a schoolbus full of handicapped people rolls down an embankment all while aliens disseminate a biological warfare agent. #4 - Familiarization with new equipment or revisiting hardly utilized equipment #3 - Using the drill to adopt written pre-plans and response protocols (either incident specific or location specific) #2 - Fostering working relationships with surrounding agencies #1 - Focusing on and brushing up on the basics

I think we need to be a little patient. It has been said several times that some features will be down or appear different TEMPORARILY. If certain features aren't working or things don't look right, wait until the upgrades are finished. Seth is only one person and there's only so much time in the day for him to perform all of the work he has to do to complete the upgrade.

Yeah pucker factor was definitely in full effect!

Very close call! http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/roof-collapses-under-dearborn-firefighters

Armed Pomona man arrested in parking lot of Spring Hill Ambulance Corps. LOHUD article

No permission is needed to deploy them.

NYPD has them, they're rarely ever deployed though.