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 Rescue 40 Port Chester Fire 2019 Pierce  Arrow XT   leaving  factory for New York . 

That is where our issue is. We didn't do enough testing prior to the purchase. We do use KEY hose but we bought the Eco-10 looking for a hose that was lightweight and folded well for attack line  and supply line as well. We run 3 man engines and we were trying to keep the weight down. The hose has been great with the exception of the kinking issues.  

We did with our first one and had no issues with it. We changed to FireAde 2000 due to a vendor change and significant price increase. We have 5 Husky 3's, a 2013 and (4) 2016s. We also have a Husky 12 that is a 2009. The 12 had some issues over the years so we tried the 3. The only negative I have about the 3 is it won't flow a large gpm of foam product. We have busy interstates 95 & 16 and are just outside the port of Savannah so we have a tremendous amount of truck traffic. We flow "foam" on any fire, our engines have 50 gallon tanks. The FireAde has been great and does wonders with reducing the amount of overhaul required and assists with fire suppression. Our 2 crosslays are 200' of 1.75" that is really 2 1/16". We will be swapping to the true 1.75" hose. We run a 15/16" smoothbore and a low psi combination nozzle on them and we have issues with kinking. 
 

You should not have kinking issues using a low pressure nozzle if: you are using a good, high quality, kink resistant hose as well as incorporating a stream shaper between the nozzle and the hose. This is the best attack line available:  
http://www.keyhose.com/images/pdf/combatready.pdf
 

We did with our first one and had no issues with it. We changed to FireAde 2000 due to a vendor change and significant price increase. We have 5 Husky 3's, a 2013 and (4) 2016s. We also have a Husky 12 that is a 2009. The 12 had some issues over the years so we tried the 3. The only negative I have about the 3 is it won't flow a large gpm of foam product. We have busy interstates 95 & 16 and are just outside the port of Savannah so we have a tremendous amount of truck traffic. We flow "foam" on any fire, our engines have 50 gallon tanks. The FireAde has been great and does wonders with reducing the amount of overhaul required and assists with fire suppression. Our 2 crosslays are 200' of 1.75" that is really 2 1/16". We will be swapping to the true 1.75" hose. We run a 15/16" smoothbore and a low psi combination nozzle on them and we have issues with kinking. 
 

That Tiller from LaPlata has seen more work in its short time in Passaic than it did in its whole career! It seems like as soon as they got it, all h*ll broke loose!

That Tiller from LaPlata has seen more work in its short time in Passaic than it did in its whole career! It seems like as soon as they got it, all h*ll broke loose!

Provided the fire has extended from the garage.
 
Hyperbole aside, you are correct that that there can be more than one way to handle a situation.  However, it's incumbent that we do our best to choose the best option rather than just any option.  As such, departments and their leaders have an obligation to be adequately trained and prepared for the situations that they will likely see based on those things you mention in order to not limit their available options for mitigation.  This particular department didn't seem to be adequately prepared for the task at hand shown in the videos.

I wouldn't say there are too few. The issue seems to be everyone trying to cut corners to make profit. It seems that the quality of materials is a huge issue. Whether it is overflow tanks on radiators, radiators not made completely of metal. wiring harnesses that have a lower gauge of wire, window regulators that are inferior and don't even start me with the Cummins motor issues. In a recent purchase lack of quality control and employees doing what they were supposed to do. The last purchase involved a multiple truck order and wiring runs were different, grommets not placed holes, some siliconed, some left open. It was a lot of little issues due to volume of trucks being produced and new employees not up to par. The manufacturers have let the older employees retire or leave and when business started to turn around they have been slow to bring on employees and their is no apprenticeship to teach the right way it should be done. ALL OF THE MANUFACTURERS have issues. We had more little issues on our pumpers than or aerial, the aerial guys have been there much longer and were a great group of guys, aerials are a promotion from the engine work it seems, they still have the right attitude and work ethic. Sorry, off my soapbox now.

I have to say, they are some of the best taken care of apparatus I have ever seen, even their extremely busy companies take care of their trucks. It is impressive.

Instead of questioning an exterior attack vs an aggressive interior attack.  They should be getting back to basics and work on that.   Like someone mentioned above not really an "A" effort.  The way the video was edited you can't really create a true time line of how long it took to get things going.  In the video it shows an engine pulling up and to me it looks like it took a long time to get the line in place and water in it.  They had a chance to make a good push on this but their lack of assertiveness and aggressiveness they let this get away from them. I'd be embarrassed if I was the chief after seeing this.  

The biggest issue appears to be the amount of time it took to get any water on the fire. The videos is edited so we can't get an actual time line of what occurred.

The biggest issue appears to be the amount of time it took to get any water on the fire. The videos is edited so we can't get an actual time line of what occurred.

The biggest issue appears to be the amount of time it took to get any water on the fire. The videos is edited so we can't get an actual time line of what occurred.

The biggest issue appears to be the amount of time it took to get any water on the fire. The videos is edited so we can't get an actual time line of what occurred.

 

I have to say, they are some of the best taken care of apparatus I have ever seen, even their extremely busy companies take care of their trucks. It is impressive.

I have to say, they are some of the best taken care of apparatus I have ever seen, even their extremely busy companies take care of their trucks. It is impressive.

I have to say, they are some of the best taken care of apparatus I have ever seen, even their extremely busy companies take care of their trucks. It is impressive.

I wouldn't say there are too few. The issue seems to be everyone trying to cut corners to make profit. It seems that the quality of materials is a huge issue. Whether it is overflow tanks on radiators, radiators not made completely of metal. wiring harnesses that have a lower gauge of wire, window regulators that are inferior and don't even start me with the Cummins motor issues. In a recent purchase lack of quality control and employees doing what they were supposed to do. The last purchase involved a multiple truck order and wiring runs were different, grommets not placed holes, some siliconed, some left open. It was a lot of little issues due to volume of trucks being produced and new employees not up to par. The manufacturers have let the older employees retire or leave and when business started to turn around they have been slow to bring on employees and their is no apprenticeship to teach the right way it should be done. ALL OF THE MANUFACTURERS have issues. We had more little issues on our pumpers than or aerial, the aerial guys have been there much longer and were a great group of guys, aerials are a promotion from the engine work it seems, they still have the right attitude and work ethic. Sorry, off my soapbox now.

I wouldn't say there are too few. The issue seems to be everyone trying to cut corners to make profit. It seems that the quality of materials is a huge issue. Whether it is overflow tanks on radiators, radiators not made completely of metal. wiring harnesses that have a lower gauge of wire, window regulators that are inferior and don't even start me with the Cummins motor issues. In a recent purchase lack of quality control and employees doing what they were supposed to do. The last purchase involved a multiple truck order and wiring runs were different, grommets not placed holes, some siliconed, some left open. It was a lot of little issues due to volume of trucks being produced and new employees not up to par. The manufacturers have let the older employees retire or leave and when business started to turn around they have been slow to bring on employees and their is no apprenticeship to teach the right way it should be done. ALL OF THE MANUFACTURERS have issues. We had more little issues on our pumpers than or aerial, the aerial guys have been there much longer and were a great group of guys, aerials are a promotion from the engine work it seems, they still have the right attitude and work ethic. Sorry, off my soapbox now.

And this is why I moved South!

What is the reason for the change to a rescue engine? We are considering a similar project when our rescue is due for replacement. I was looking for some of their reasoning. Our biggest issue is will it have enough space.