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Date: 1-10-2012 Time: 04:50 Location: 6800 Torresdale Avenue Frequency: Philly Fire Dispatch Units Operating: Philadelphia FD/EMS, PD Weather Conditions: Chilly Description Of Incident: Working fire in 2-story taxpayer O/M/D with a barbershop on the #1 floor. Firefighters arrived on scene to fine heavy fire in the rear of the #1 floor and on the #2 floor. Firefighter were initially notified that no one was in the fire building but it was later discovered that three people were trapped in an upstairs bedroom. Two young people were found in a bedroom and were pronounced at the scene. An older woman was pulled from the fire and resuscitated at the scene and is listed as very critical at Rhode Island Hospital. Link: Firefighternation.com Writer: PFDRes47cue

The "SAFETY" fuel cans seem to be the best bet, my company has a gasoline in one. Derp de derp...brain fart Compartment lights can definitely be an ignition source. The locking mechanism on the doors making contact, slide trays, tools rubbing together can all be ignition sources. I guess one of the best choices, since it is impossible to eliminate all sources of ignition, is to have the cabinet be well ventilated. Perhaps installing a small exhaust fan that vents out the top or bottom of the truck isn't the worst option...other than it also being an ignition source.

I know that there has been a lot of talk today about the South Salem fire that is still going on... Thought a thread should be opened so people on scene can give some insight about challenges faced, specifics, etc and where others can ask questions and hopefully get answers in return. Can anyone provide insight to the water supply issues that seemed to exist throughout the entire incident?

I too agree with other posters about getting yourself and the victim as close to the exit as possible then leaving to get fresh help. You can also once you find the victim and realize you might run out of air, radio to get crews coming in and to meet you half way. This way there is no gap in time between you leaving the victim and fresh help getting back to he victim allowing you to focus on getting out quickly with limited air while the fresh help can focus on the victim and themselves.

I also prefer non painted for maintenance reasons, but painted can often look better. They do take a beating when rolled up, but this could be fixed by having them roll up into an enclosed unit that protects the roll. Would not take up much extra space either.

Absolutely, storage space is an issue. However, if you have one 2.5 gallon gasoline jug on your rig, and this is what most of us have, then you only need a small storage box a little bigger than the gas jug. This can be top loading, instead of front loading like the larger ones in house. If you go along these lines, you wont need more space then is already allotted for the gas jug.

I heard that one too. Heard one this morning...went something like this. "XXX PD to XXXX Ambulance, your previous call has been cancelled, return to quarters.....or home."

There have been several incidents. Some of which you can read about here. (FEMA) A collapse in Yonkers, NY in 1994 is mentioned in the article, I pasted the snippet below. The recent one from PA that BFD mentioned can be read about here.

How limited would in/out access be to commuters who needed to get out of the NYC? wouldn't most exit points be blocked off?

How bout dem Cowboys!!!

Date: 1-7-2012 Time: 20:05 Location: 2 East End Avenue Frequency: Manhattan Dispatch Units Operating: (See rundown below) Weather Conditions: Chilly, dry Description Of Incident: Engine 44 arrived on scene and had a 10-77 transmitted for a fire on the top floor of a 9-story 150x100 O/M/D. Companies located the fire in a triplex penthouse on the #9 floor. 2 L/S/O, one (1) to the #9 floor and one (1) to the #8 floor. Writer: PFDRes47cue Box Alarm Assignment: Engine 44, 39, 53, 22 Ladder 16, 43, 13 10-77 Assignment: Engine 8, 23, 3 Ladder 2, 25 (FAST) Squad 18 Rescue 1 Battalion 9 (Safety), 8, 11 division 3 2nd Alarm Assignment: Engine 91, 40, 21, 65, 9 w/ Sat Ladder 35, 25 Battalion 12, 45 (RUL) S/C Two (2) Additional Trucks for Relief: Ladder 22, 14

Date: 1-3-2012 Time: 03:00 Location: 40 Westwind Road (Harbor Point Apartments) Frequency: Boston Dispatch Units Operating: (See rundown below) Weather Conditions: Chilly, dry Description Of Incident: Working fire in a 7-story brick apartment building. Fire located in an apartment on the #5 floor. 80 year old male D.O.A. in the fire unit. Fire contained to the apartment unit of origin. Fire found to have been started by an electrical wire that shorted when pinched by a bed. 3 civilians transported to the hospital with minor injuries. 1 firefighter transported to the hospital with a shoulder injury. Writer: PFDRes47cue Operating Unit Rundown: Engines: 21, 39, 17, 3, 2, 14, 24, 18, 22, 7 Ladders: 18, 7, 4, 19, 26 Tower Ladders: 3 Rescue: 1 Car: 6 Division 6 (Ops), 7 (Rit), 4, 3, 8

Pretty impressive job. Great pictures as well. ironsandladders.com

Ohh God...this is terrible. If this is true, I hope the dirtbag is punished to the fullest extent.

Date: 1-6-2012 Time: 13:30 Location: Route 312 (IAO Nancy Lane) Frequency: Putnam County 911 Units Operating: Brewster Fire/EMS; PC Sheriff Investigators, Transcare ALS, NYSP Weather Conditions: Chilly, dry, clear Description Of Incident: One car MVA, car off the road into a tree with two patients trapped. Patients removed from the vehicle by Brewster FD. Patients transported in traumatic arrest to Putnam Hospital Center by Brewster EMS and Transcare ALS. Both victims were pronounced dead en-route to the hospital. (Further detail can be found in article linked below.) Writer: PFDRes47cue LoHud Article

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Date: 1-5-2012 Time: 21:05 Location: Eastern Parkway & Nostrand Avenue Frequency: Bronx Dispatch; NYPD Units Operating: (See rundown below) Weather Conditions: Cold Description Of Incident: NYPD arrived on scene to find a serious 3 car motor vehicle accident. One car was fully involved with a person pinned inside. NYPD requested FDNY, FDNY EMS and ESU. 1 victim D.O.A. Writer: PFDRes47cue Pictures Box Assignment: Engine 280 Ladder 132 Rescue 2 Battalion 38 Additional Units: NYPD Patrols NYPD ESU NYDP Accident Investigation

Date: 1-4-2012 Time: 01:14 Location: 495 Franklin Avenue Frequency: Brooklyn Dispatch Units Operating: (See rundown below) Weather Conditions: Cold, dry Description Of Incident: Working fire in a 3-story 20x40 Brownstone O/M/D. 2nd alarm transmitted for heavy fire on the #3 floor and cockloft with fire out the front and rear. 4 L/S with 3 operating. Primary and secondary searches complete and negative throughout. (2) 10-45's, (1) Code 2 and (1) Code 3. Fire PWH by Division 11 @ 02:24. Writer: PFDRes47cue Exposures: #1 - Street #2 - Similar attached #3 - Yard #4 - Similar attached Box Alarm Assignment: Engine 235, 280, 214 Ladder 132 Tower Ladder 111 Battalion 57 10-75 Assignment: Engine 219 Tower Ladder 105 (FAST) Rescue 2 Squad 1 Battalion 38 Division 11 S/C Additional Engine & Truck: Engine 210 Ladder 102 2nd Alarm Assignment: Engine 217, 230, 234, 207 w/ Sat 6 Battalion 37 (Safety Officer) Battalion 35 (RUL) Safety Battalion Fieldcom 1 Tactical Support Unit 2 S/C 2 Additional Trucks: Ladder 123 Tower Ladder 119

Date: 1-3-2012 Time: 23:10 Location: 4945 Broadway Frequency: Manhattan Dispatch Units Operating: (See rundown below) Weather Conditions: Chilly Description Of Incident: Engine 95 arrived on scene and transmitted a 10-75 fore a working fire in a 2-story 200x100 taxpayer. Fire on the #1 floor, 2 L/S/O. Fire extended to the #2 floor and cockloft with fire through the roof. Second alarm transmitted. Companies removed from the building and the roof, switched over to exterior operations. 4 Tower Ladders placed into operation along with 3 hand-lines in operation from the rooftop of exposure #3. 3rd alarm transmitted for relief, engines only. Hot spots still being extinguished as of 10:39 the following morning. Writer: PFDRes47cue Photos Exposures: #1 - Street #2 - Street #3 - 5-story O/M/D #4 - 1-story taxpayer Box Alarm Assignment: Engine 95, 43, 81 Ladder 36 Tower Ladder 46 Battalion 19 10-75 Assignment: Engine 75 Ladder 59 (FAST) Battalion 27 Division 7 2nd Alarm Assignment: Engine 48, 42, 79, 68, 71 w/ Sat 2 Tower Ladder 33 Ladder 56 Rescue 3 Squad 61 Battalion 18 (Safety) Battalion 17 (RUL) Rescue Battalion Safety Battalion Fieldcom 1 Tactical Support Unit 1 Car 11 S/C Additional Tower Ladder: Tower Ladder 14 S/C Additional Tower Ladder: Tower LAdder 22 S/C Truck to Relieve FAST: Ladder 40 S/C 2 Engine & 2 Trucks for Relief: Engine 47, 46 Tower Ladder 44, 54 S/C 2 Battalion Chiefs for Relief: Battalion 13, 12 3rd Alarm Assignment: Engine 67, 88

Great points BFD. I had the same reaction as you did with the low percentage of runs being workers and how many each FF actually operated at. I understand the concept of consolidation and despite being a vollie, I still see consolidation being inevitable in the future for both FD's and EMS. However, I do have one area that I need clarification of if someone can fill me in. Lets focus on the department that did 14 runs. If you consolidate this department and the ones around it, you will simply be operating under one name with different houses...correct? Or are we assuming consolidation will mean all companies are in one central house? Going with the idea that these will be different houses under the same department name, then how will consolidation increase the experience for the house that only has 14 calls in its area? Will this station respond to a large amount of other calls away from its first due area?

Article Terrible tragedy. Thoughts and prayers.

Ha. Thats good.

Heard a Chief directing a TL to back up to a scene, he then said, "TLXX stop there, God has spoken." Heard an EMS run go out for a "possible sprained ankle or gunshot wound."

Nice work. I too never understood the fleeing your own home part. Glad to see the lady stood her ground and protected her child the best she could.

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