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there are a few companys in upper Bergen County that have separate Rescue Squads....Ramsey, Upper Saddle Rive and Saddle River....the have both Amb and Rescue Vehicles.In NJ, eastern PA, and some other regions of the nation, the EMS providers stepped up to the plate and began providing rescue services as well. The evolution of this was that eventually their consentration on training for rescue and emergency medical jobs lent them to providing full rescue services while the FD's consentrated more on suppression and other services.
Many of the rigs in northern NJ are true heavy squad's that provide everything that a FD sponsored heavy rescue would. A typical station might have two ambulances and a heavy squad.
It's mearly a seperation of services. For example Bedford Police used to do all the extrication in the Hills and the Village up until the mid 1990's. The tool was carried in the Chevy Suburban. I could be wrong , but I don't believe that Rescue 10 when it was originally purchased, didn't carry extrication equipment.
In some areas Squads are also the local rescue company assignment to structure fires. When the initial alarm is struck, the local FD might be first due with 2 engines and a truck, but the Squad is alerted to cover the rescue company assignment as well as ems to the scene. Upon arrival they will establish rehab, establish a staging area for quick treatment/transport of MOS, and the Heavy Squad will perform initial & secondary searches, as well as help with truck company functions, and other as needed.
Here is an example of Princeton, NJ's Rescue Squad.
Pierce Heavy Squad
3 Ambulances
Zodiac
Special Services Unit (like Mt. Kisco's FAST unit)
Utility
First Responder Suburban
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I agree... It's personal preference. If a department indicates that water is welcome, they know what they're going to get, and what can go wrong.
I was at a wetdown a few years ago for a mutual aid department of Millwood's where there was a little bit of water nonsense that went on. No one got hurt, no apparatus was damaged, and the public really didn't see anything more than the local fire department having fun (ie; there wasn't tons of drunken idiots or flowing beer).
I've also seen it go terribly wrong where a deck gun gets aimed toward the ground by accident and gravel from the parking lot sprays the side of the brand new rig like a sand blaster.... Not cool.
Personally I like a little water action (but make a point that everyone knows that no deck guns, master streams, smooth bores are permitted)... I also like the transfer of water from one rig to another and pushing it back into the station too.
Any way you shake it, there have been enough good AND bad wetdowns over the years, that based on experience, you should be able to plan one (wet or dry) that works out properly.
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I also remember too that Sutphen made a pumper with a Mack motor and tranny and it had all Mack embelems on it but mack told them to take it off. I think this was done because they were trying to start a partnership and bring back Mack. Mack told them to remove all the badges off of it sinceit wasn;t built by them. Some department in PA I think bought the pumper.
It's very funny that you bring that up.... I know exactly where that pumper is in PA. It's with Heidlersburg VFD in Adams County (Company #25)... The ex-chief of that department is restoring my 1957 B-Model Mack that I bought from the department I was in during college (Gettysburg... Adams County Company #1)... He also did some cleanup work (mini resto) on Millwood's 1924 ALF Brockway Torpedo during my sophomore year... The current Millwood Car 2253 and myself rented a Penske 24 foot box truck and brought it down in a snow storm...
ANYWAY yes the Mack issue is true, it went to court, all the badges were removed and it's either recently been put in service at Company 25 or will be soon. Company 25 also has an R model tanker (Tanker 25) and a CF600 Mack (Engine 25-1)
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I'll try to find some photos....http://www.thewatchdesk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=160093
As promised... I found this on a similar board to EMTBravo.
It takes a second for the pic to load, and it's about 1/2 way down the page.
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Is there such a thing as a Tillered Tower Ladder? Maybe some kind of mid-mount with the bucket resting right infront of the tiller man...There was a point in time when I believe that the Sutphen Corporation was offering a tillered tower. Essentially, the bucket would turn 90 degrees forward and become the tillermans protective compartment while he was operating the rear axle while traveling to and from jobs.
I'll try to find some photos....
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Its easy for everyone to say that its too big or impractical....
BUT
Without hearing the reasoning behind it from those who designed it and ordered I would venture to say we don't know whether or not it's impractical OR VERY practical.
As for "getting around" if you've never ridden on a tiller or followed one through traffic you wouldn't know, but a tiller can go just about anywhere a standard length pumper can.
Why to you think NYC has tillers in Lower Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn. A tiller will go places that a tandem axle rescue or rear mount ladder wont.
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Whether a given fire department is career, combination or volunteer has no bearing in how the operational expenses are acquired. Its how the department or district is governed under state law. The two most common types of fire agencies are fire districts and fire protection districts..........This is mostly true in the NY metropolitan area.... However if you go to PA, MD, VA, KY, NC, SC, and a lot of other states, fire protection isn't necessarily funded by taxes, or municipal budgets... Many states do not allow fire departments to gather funding because if the municipality isn't a "City"....If it's a boro, borough, township, town, hamlet, village, etc... it may not be legal to levee a fire tax.
Here is a real life example that I lived while in college.... Gettysburg Fire Department, Gettysburg, PA.... (gettysburgfd.com) On the MD border a short distance from the National Fire Academy in Emmitsburg, MD... The Borough of Gettysburg does not have a fire tax. The fire department raises money through it's annual carnival which it holds each year during the week of July 4th. It also raises money for billing insurance companies for EMS calls that it runs with its two ambulances. It has a mail fund raiser that goes to all the people that live within the FD's first due. It also gets donations from local businesses who realize the value of fire protection. Finally, they have 50/50 raffles, dinners, auctions, etc.
They just had a big ceremony for the paying off of the mortgage on their 9 bay station. All thier apparatus is paid for by the blood sweat and tears of the membership and the kindness of the community.... If they have to they borrow money from the borough or a bank and pay it off. With the exception of Rescue 1 (a new Sutphen Engine/Rescue) all of their apparatus is paid for and titled in thier name, as is the building and fairgrounds. I'm sure the Rescue will be paid for soon as will the new Engine 1-1 which is the soon to be delivered replacement for Engines 1-1 "The General Ike", and 1-4 which essentially were combined when they bought Quint 1 to add to the fleet along with 1-2, 1-3, Truck 1, the two ambulances, and service (utility).
I chipped in by buying thier old B model Mack, "The General Ike" from them for a tad more than what it was worth
But it's priceless to me.They are lucky to have the support of the town. There are other fire departments that have had to watch their apparatus get repossesed by the bank as the families of the FF's watched in tears.
Not cool.
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My wife's family has a mountain house in Banner Elk. It is a wonderful town with wonderful people. I can only imagine that these Members Of The Service were as wonderful as the town that they protected.
A terrible loss for one department to endure.
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YES on Kokomos as well....its a tight race between them and Candlelight for the best I've ever had. Hooters wings are overrated, however who goes there for the food...I haven't been to Wing House since moving to Orlando, but my wife who's a native says that they're good. I'll have to check it out.
I'm not a huge fan of Hooters food, but I was in Daytona for Bike Week Thursday, Friday, Saturday of last week.... My buds and I had our motorhome in the park behind Hooters and were there 5 times in 3 days.... Closing the place each night.... For some reason the wings were great this time around. Might have been the beer talking though.
Three Mile Island OR 911 is the only way to go. Anything less just doesn't get the nose running like wings are supposed to.
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why the statflight calls?? Is millwood that far away from valhalla?No its not that far away, probably about 10 miles. If it was on the parkway at 3:00am, the chopper probably wouldn't have been called.
But depending on where the call is in the district, traffic conditions, and other factors, the OIC may choose to fly from a nearby location especially if an extended extrication is taking place and the patient won't be waiting on the bird.
I personally have a conservative outlook on calling for a chopper, but others don't necessarily feel the same way and will be quicker to call. The OIC needs to feel comfortable that the best decision is being made on behalf of the patient given all the factors presented upon arrival.
Finally, being that Millwood Fire Company is not a primary EMS provider, often times the call for STAT flight has been made by the medic or other emergency personnel who are at the scene with or before the OIC's arrival.
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Hey Cas, unfortunately a Snozzle is not a TeleSquirt, two different companies. Same concept but the Snozzle was mainly made for the ARFF. Really cool concept, Snozzle took it one step further.Snozzle is essentially an articulating boom that is mounted on an engine (as opposed to a ladder chassis) chassis. Is does not have a ladder attached to it. It typically has a piercing device at the tip which allows the apparatus to deliver a master stream through small openings such as an aircraft window.
TeleSquirt is typically a rear mounted boom with an escape ladder mounted on it like an Aerialscope. They are mounted on engine chassis and are compact and great for departments that need minimal aerial capacity but require the ability to establish an elevated master stream or effect a rescue / access a roof.
The most common telesquirt sizes are 50 and 55ft. They should not be confused with a dedicated ladder truck. They typically are equiped like an engine, and fill the box assignment as such. They typically do not carry enough ground ladders to qualify as a quint for those municipalities who have a quint designation.
This is why TS2 was rebadged as E-245 and TS3 was rebadged as E-250 in Westchester.
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Somerstown Road is Route 133 between Route 100 at the TSP interchange and Ossining. Millwood's box runs from Rt100 to Edgewood Road, and all the side streets inbetween (Vails, Sarles, Barnes, etc). You will occasionally see MFC apparatus operating as far west as Brookside Lane (Road?) on Rt133 in Ossining's box while en-route to the remainder of Millwood's first due which can be reached via Brookside to Pinesbridge Road.
This incident was most likely not CVAC's territory.
MFC's box is shared by CVAC, BMFD EMS, and OVAC depending on where the job is.
In addition, because CVAC is dispatched by NCPD, there have been a handful of times when they weren't properly dispatched to the job and given the elapsed time, they had to be replaced on the box by BMFD or OVAC who are closer. (Not blaming CVAC, the problem lies in the breakdown of communications when multiple agencies are first due to a call but each agency is dispatched via a different service).
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I believe the PAPD Volvo rig is still in service and based out of the big PAPD station in "no-mans-land" between Hoboken & Jersey city.
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To my knowledge NHRFR is a career department. They are surrounded by career, combo, and vollie departments.
For example, to the south, Hoboken is a career department
To the west, Secaucus is a vollie department
There are a few vollie stations along the water between Fort Lee and Weehawkin.
Fort Lee is at least a combo department if not all vollie, but I'm not sure if they border NHRFR's box or if there are other juristictions in the middle.
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Old Ford unit still in service in Denver Colorado with their water rescue team
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Are you looking for pictures because you are looking to spec a vehicle and are shopping for ideas OR are you looking for them for other reasons.
If you are looking to spec, let us know a little more about your preferences so that some of us can forward more specific items.
From prior experience I'm pretty familiar with a good deal of "smaller fire apparatus" be it brush truck on pickup chassis, commercial chassis, military chassis, as well as quick attacks, mini-attack/mini pumper, and short wheel base commercial and custom cab pumpers.
There are probably folks from Dutchess and Putnam who can help as well...
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Does anyone have any pictures of newer model mini-attacks? Also, what are the specs?http://www.millwoodfire.org/apparatus.php#pic
I realize that the chassis is 16 years old, but Millwood MA-10 is one of the most robust Mini Pumpers that I've seen in my 14 years as a member of the service.
It's 2 drawbacks are that it was built right before the 7.4L International diesel was fitted with a turbocharger, so It's a pig.... AND it only has 150 gallons of water...
However, it's is designed to be a mini fire truck... It's NOT a brush truck, it's NOT a quick attack. It is designed to operate either off road as a pumper at a fire (once again not as a dedicated brush truck, but a pumper) OR at fires where traditional fire apparatus cannot fit. It's designed to lay into and be supplied, or suppress fire with it's pre piped class B foam system.
As mentioned before, it's specs are below, and could easially be reproduced on a modern F-550 chassis.
Ford F-350
Hale 750gpm single stage with pre piped class B foam system
150gal water
25 gal foam
1000 (one thousand) feet of 4 inch supply hose
150 1.75in crosslay
200ft 2in crosslay
100ft 1.75in foam line
forestry hose with supply 3inch supply line with manifold
chain saw
2 Scott paks with spares
Mulit purpose ladder
Attachments for Zodiac transport
water rescue gear
winch
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Rescue 47 Light PackageI love the fact that they have bells on the front bumper.
I miss the old E-247 (1976 ALF Century)... I used the bell on it all the time on Sundays when we'd approach the small church in Millwood... NCPD will usually have the intersection locked up for you so traffic wasn't a factor and a few good raps on the bell would usually be enough to keep folks from crossing the street until we passed... Just a little friendlier than leaning on the siren and dumping the air horns.
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I was referring to advancing and maneuvering the 2.5, the actual operation does not require the additional men.Don't get me wrong there is no substitute for 2.5 attack line.
It's been a while since I've had wings in Westchester, but Foley's in P-Ville was my favorite.
In NYC, Brother Jimmy's was my choice
Check out Black Bear on Washington Street in Hoboken too...
Best wings I've ever had were at a place named Kokomos in Camp Hill, PA (Harrisburg). They were often awarded best wings in PA. Wednesday nights used to drive the 20 miles up from Gettysburg in college for nickle wing night.
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I think its dangerous to put a maximum age on participants in the fire services (career or otherwise). Many great leaders and peers of mine would be excluded if that was the case.
One of the chiefs that I had the pleasure of serving under, in the next few years, will fall into an age bracket where some folks would say that he should no longer be responding. I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE.... I'd take him as my partner on the hairest job any day of the week. He's fit, stong, knowledgable, and able to do the work of someone decades younger than he is.
BUT
There there does need to be a check and balance to make sure that we're not putting people at undue risk. I personally believe that on a case by case basis, all Members Of The Service above the age of 65 should have an annual health review to ensure that their level of response is appropriate. This should not simply be limited to a doctor's yea or nea on the individual's health, but it should also include an an interview and discussion with the senior member by a commanding officer who is responsible for their health and safety both on and off the fireground.
Finally, we also need to keep in mind what these folks want for themselves. If a 78 year old grandfather who could potentially have 60+ years in the fire service is physically and mentally capable of directing traffic at the scene of an incident to the standards required by his department, then who are we to say that he should die at home in bed vs. while directing traffic (a tragic ending to anyone's life regardless of age).
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I didn't mean to hijack the thread, but my comments are based on a concern over actual handline training.... The traditional engine company operations drill doesn't cover most of this stuff.
As far as training on larger attack lines, I don't feel like nearly enough of it is done. This may seem obvious to many, but dragging a fully charged duece through a building isn't easy. Many FF's who are used to working with an 1.75in line are not prepared for the work involved to put a duece in service and actually make an aggressive attack with it....
I know many departments that have "charge at the door" policies which require the crew to march through the building with a charged line to reach the seat of the fire. Precious time and energy is lost doing this. Many of the best stops I've been on have been as a result of stretching an uncharged line as far as safely possible into the building before relaying the order to charge.... Attic fires in brownstones are a great example.... You can have a fully involved attic that will require a duece, but 4 stories of narrow, winding staircase to climb. With a "charge at the door" policy, the duece will take several minutes to climb the stairs, and the vent team might very well be waiting on you to crack the building thus putting them in hazzards way. With an uncharged line the top floor can be reached in minimal time, with the crew still having enough air air and energy to make an effective initial attack.
Other items that I feel aren't covered often enough include discussions of when straight vs fog streams are to be used, water application techniques (literally how and where to put the water at a job), hydraulic ventalation, etc.
One final training point regarding handlines that I have brought up many times since Millwood purchased the current E-247 in the late '90s is the extreme difference in conditions when comparing fires suppressed with water and CAFS. Many departments are purchasing CAFS equipment given it's awesome capabilities to suppress fires in short periods of time with minimial water AND water damage. Many departments are so excited about the abilities of CAFS that they overlook the major differences and dangers that come with it as well. Quick examples include the fact that CAFS does very little to suppress heat in the room and thus, the fire might be out, but the room is still every bit as hot as it was when it was glowing a minute prior. I've heard accounts of several firefighters that have been burned by standing up in a room shortly after using CAFS to suppress a fire. This brings another point, that CAFS doesn't allow you to vent the room with the hose stream out of a window. CAFS also doesn't offer the penetration and dispersion that a water straight stream does.
Just examples of how the logistics of using larger attack lines is overlooked during training and thus could lead to fireground complications.
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Tracy Towers ?
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I completed the 1st part of the combination exept I cant figure out how to do the next part which was the keypad part.If you're looking at the whole pretend bomb and the key pad is to the left, just above it, there is a box. Click on it, and the extra numbers will appear click on them as your inventory and a close up of the pad will appear. You have to figure out where to put the numbers and then type in the code to see if you've done it right.
I won't tell you what it is, but there is a pattern to get it done. The other numbers on the key pad were placed in thier location for a reason.
Good luck.
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You have 15 minutes to finish disarming a bomb before the whole thing goes up in a bang.Pretty cool game.
Just did it.... Not easy.
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You are correct... Chassis are the same and options differ (obvioussly Denali's and Escalades are more expensive than a straight 1500 series pickup or Tahoe)
Silverado 1500 = Avalanche = Sierra 1500 = Escalade EXT = Hummer H2 SUT
Silverado 2500, 3500 = Sierra 2500, 3500 = Avalanche 2500 (no 3500 option)
Tahoe = Yukon = Denali = Escalade
Suburban (1/2 ton) = Yukon XL (1/2 ton) = Denali XL = Escalade ESV = Hummer H2 SUV
Suburban 3/4 ton = Yukon XL 3/4 ton