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Scrap the water and pump and this thing can sit lower to the ground. If that happens it will be a compelling option for many departments.

I don't think the guy really is a probie. The article takes their information of the FDNY Rant forum (not unlike this one) and people who have few posts are listed as probies, then FF First Class, etc. as you post more. http://fdnyrant.proboards.com/board/12/kitchen

Photos credit to original photographers who are not me... Rescue Engine 33 (Kentland) Engine 281 (West Lanham Hills)

I rode in PG 20 years ago. The bashing was the same then. It always will be. The vollies there along with the career jakes that give a damn, are very aggressive in every aspect of fire rescue and EMS services. They train hard, drive fast, ladder every window, every side, and truly attack incidents. Not everyone agrees with this and that is fine. The fact of the matter is, that PG county sees more fire and wrecks than most in our country, and at least while I was around the injury rate as tame comparably. I think what most people really don't like is that hey look at me I'm doing this well attitude that is presented.

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Intended to prevent FF leg from falling into step well while door is closed. Large numbers of minor, albeit costly FF injuries happen while riding, entering, and leaving fire apparatus.... Especially during inclement weather.

The best part of this whole discussion is that we're bantering about who got to go sit in someone else's fire house... Not who got to go to the job, but who got to go and sit.... Priceless really....

Bottom of Da Hill, on 03 Feb 2015 - 11:28 PM, said: why stand by fd units from ossining isnt that a little far away?maybe armonk or west harrison white plains ? Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 01:47 AM, said: or maybe just maybe the dispatcher is a member of said FD? thats what it is?you have fairview hartsdale sleepyhollow tarrytown just a few miles away.favoritism with few dispatchers i noticed. Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 02:06 AM, said: i know all about mutual aid very well and i agree with you to a point.but there is favoritism. Bottom of Da Hill, on 04 Feb 2015 - 03:16 AM, said: the grand scheme should get what you need there sooner then later kinda like a fast team? thats my experience tells me its not a parade.get what you need ASAP.i dont think the dispatchers should have that kind of power to show favoritism to the dept they belong to. Well all the departments you listed including Ossining are a 12-15 minute drive to Valhalla's station. It's not about speed and who is closest for relocations, it's how to balance all of the resources in the county. A relocation is not an emergency per se. It is better to skip over several departments so that wide gaps in coverage aren't created in the process. Hawthorne, Valhalla, North White Plains, Elmsford, Thornwood, and Briarcliff had units committed to this job during rush hour. Leaving TFD, SHFD, PHFD, WHFD, AFD, untouched meant that whichever company relocated to VFD would have had a full complement of second due departments nearby available to respond to another major incident. You're hung up on Ossining but the fact of the matter is that they've got a half dozen engines two trucks rescue and support equipment plus a lot of manpower. I'd like you to name a major job North of White Plains from the past 20 years that they haven't been on or relocated for. An 3 man engine or 1 man truck from Hartsdale on a relocate... That's just silly. If I was Greenville, Hartsdale, or Fairview I'd decline the request for a relocate knowing that if have to call back manpower to cover my first due. The box was filled appropriately and just because a few Ossining members work for or have previously worked for 60 control does not indicate favoritism. If it's big and in northern Westchester you can be sure Ossining, Bedford Hills, and/or Yorktown are going to be part of the job.

Cashtown, PA former E4-3. I used to run first due truck and rescue, second due engine into their box territory in college. This thing was a workhorse. Replaced by a pumper tanker 2-3 years ago. Photo from 911Photography..... http://911-photography.smugmug.com/

Ok I'm going to jump in here to try and end this crap just like I did the last time that M'Ave was getting jumped all over for apparent KoolAid consumption..... First.... He and the other FDNY'ers on here have been critical of the Seagrave products that have been produced over the past decade due to poor build quality compared to prior generations from Seagrave as well as the poor maintenance and warranty work coupled extended repair times on the recent orders. I have read little to no Seagrave KoolAid talk from the FDNY Jakes on this board for some time. Second, some of the FDNY members posting here were open to the Ferrara purchases prior to delivery hoping for an improvement to the build quality. Alas, there was no improvement if not a regression in the quality of the rigs that were delivered from Ferrara and their opinion moved from hopeful to disappointed. No KoolAid, just experience (which I'll get to later). Finally, with the most recent order of KME rigs that have been extremely successful on the west coast the attitude was hopeful once again.... And surprise!!!! As of a few weeks ago, the KME order seemed to be getting good reviews. No KoolAid, just rigs that aren't disappointing yet. The crux of the situation is that there are a handful of guys on this board to work for FDNY and have the experience of riding thousands (sometime over ten thousand) calls a year with a particular rig, not to mention driving it to BI, training, and other runs that aren't considered calls. They work in a relatively small geographic area that has nine times the population of the entire Provence of Nova Scotia. Hell Manhattan alone has 1.5 times the population of the Provence of Nova Scotia.... Let alone the daytime population of commuters that comes to the city. So to call these guys out and tell them that they are KoolAid drinkers is just plain silly. They don't give a damn what the brand of truck is that they're riding on as long at it doesn't break, gets to the fire, keeps them warm in the winter and cool in the summer. Ferrara makes a very good fire truck. Its just not up to the job, in its current form, in NYC. Fact, not KoolAid.

In recent days and weeks, multiple fire apparatus equipped with Pierce TAK-4 front suspensions have had wheel failures prompting a recall of this apparatus by Pierce/Oshkosh. Some apparatus was routinely inspected days prior to the accidents with no sign on impending failure. While earlier failures were attributed to faulty control arms, other recent failures have been attributed to ball joints and wheel bearings. Please take note and use caution. Of note are failures in Portland Oregon, Wilmington Delaware, Anne Arundel County Maryland, and a municipality in Oklahoma. While some of you may have known this in the past, the most recent failure was the day before yesterday so they are still occurring.

Several of the EMS/First Aid Squad/Rescue Squad organizations in NJ provide Medium or Heavy Rescue services. Some do and some to not provide fireground operations as well. Below are two quick ones that I happen to find online. http://www.frfars.org http://www.cedargroverescue.org

While I realize that it is important to get the snow off the roof before the temperature warms up, that is a seriously dangerous situation.

Is the SOC support truck the Mack MR chassis on tandem axles that says "Rescue Services" on it. The one about halfway down the page linked below? From Mike Martinelli's page. http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/specialunits/soc.htm

I'm not qualified at high angle rescue so my questions are not a criticism or quarterbacking, they are pure curiosity..... Who would perform this grab? Truck, Rescue, or other SOC unit? Would a separate unit be setting up to go down the exterior from the roof should the plan from the interior not work? Where would the command post be? Lobby or looking out through the windows on the floor where it happened? What was the initial and final response for the box from a unit standpoint?

I've got family in Ocala and drive up I-75 to see them or go to Gator games at least 15-20 times a year. The E-One plant is indeed going strong as SECTMB indicated. There was a time about two years ago that the number of apparatus on the two different lots surrounding the plant looked very empty. Other than that, they have constantly been at capacity. Orange County Fire Rescue (surrounds Orlando) runs E-One's exclusively. They have no issues with them. Funny thing is that none of the other major Central Florida (read: Orlando) municipalities run them. Winter Park and Maitland run Piece, City of Orlando runs Sutphen, Seminole County Fire Rescue runs Pierce, Osceola County runs Pierce.... Strange that with a the manufacturer right up the road that more local departments would't spec them considering the success that OCFR (a huge department) has had. On another note.... Millwood ran two 1982 E-One Kenworth rigs for over 20 years. E-245 (TS-2) and E-248 were strong until the end. I recall that Ossining was very fond of L-42 which was a 100ft rearmount on a single axle.

This is so incredibly sad. Gone way too young considering what he survived. RIP... The Free World is forever in debt to you and your fallen brothers both on the battlefield and off. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/23/decorated-soldier-from-black-hawk-down-battle-in-somalia-dies-at-52/

I have never met M'Ave but have followed his posts on here for some time. He is a pretty straight forward career guy who is on the job with FDNY. He had an open mind when the Ferrara's were purchased and now he gets to ride on one every day that he goes to work. I think he's pretty open minded about the KME purchase as well. Not sure the "Kool Aid" comment is fair here.

This rig is for sale on one of my favorite websites. As a classic car owner and vintage racer I frequent it often. As a fireman I never expected to see this for sale. The NYC EMS rig pictured is not the for sale rig but just a good pic on one of ten built. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/23/1982-jeep-cj-8-horton-all-terrain-medic/

I am very confused. A rescue wagon is a pumper with bigger compartments. The craftsmanship to create the compartments is not worth $250k right? So this thing is going to come fully loaded, leafed, and ready to put in service... Right? No spending a few weeks at the dealer to add more equipment... right? Day one it should be able to respond to a WSF or MVA and work minus a brief training period.

That is plain crazy. Every single tool, accessory, etc better be included.... Literally... Radios, portables, TIC, tough book, ball and a s s tickler...

This is truly a shame. Suburbia moves in on this place and it folds because the landlord has no stones (no pun intended). What's next the Camp Fire Club? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/20/foes-shoot-down-gun-range-in-business-for-73-years/

Just my opinion having served on two.... Chief officer, line officer, experienced firefighter/operator, representative from board of commissioners or whomever is cutting the check.

I'm confused. Is this the same rescue? Great reporting... Same or different, one sentence could have clarified it. http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/westchester/2014/09/09/woman-recounts-rescue-autistic-boy-hudson-river/15342961/

I fly WN at least once per week. The new livery looks good but their service is what keeps me coming back.