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I believe that Sutphen has never suffered a failure of an aluminum aerial either.... Looks like E-One and Sutphen for all the other complaints out there about them have dialed in the aluminum stick market.

There are a bunch of canopy cabs still in service... (roof and doors on the cab with roof over the open jump seat)... Bedford Hills, Bedford Village, and Katonah all come to mind as having pumpers with canopy cabs... I don't think anyone is running a semi open cab (no roof with doors) or an open cab in active service.

Sutphen SP110 E-One HP100 Pierce 100ft Aluminum Platform

There are so many Sutphen haters out there. I've got my issues with them, but there are a few standouts that warrent being mentioned.... They are a family owned company from what I understand which is important in my mind when America is dependant on so many big corporate machines for their products these days. They have never had an aerial failure. Even though their ladders are chunky, I'd say that for departments looking for a tower quint, they offer the most compact design. Most (not all) departments who have owned a Sutphen stick swear by them. That being said, the TRUE truck company will find them frustrating... Most of their designs for trucks have a rack of ladders on the officers side that require two FF's to get off the truck. Personally I can throw anything up to a 28 footer on my own and depending on the builder I can throw some 35's by my self.... There is nothing more frustrating than needing to grab someone else to help you get a ladder off the rig when you can carry it and throw it on your own. Also all their trucks are designed to be quints whether or not they are purchaced for that purpose or not. They were great when Millwood was building E-248 (Spartan Sutphen) but two idiots on the truck committee who didn't work for a living found plenty of time to screw it up...

if I'm wrong then I stand corrected.

Bloomie doesn't say take the man off the engine. He has a budget and hands it to FD brass. They decide what to do with it. Under the current situation, this is what they've come up with.

My father in law is his neighbor..... I'm befuddled on how he could have been hurt so badly in that neighborhood. You simply can't move fast enough on his street. Odd to say the least

They didn't cut him loose. He resigned as per the article.

Dumbest thing I've ever heard that the career guys can't wheel the vollie wagons. Fire protection at its best!

The Secretary of State lives in Chappaqua.... Not a local politician any more but rather one of the top government officials who need to be able to move with speed and safety when needed and may have foreign dignataries with her thus the Denali package. I have no idea what this vehicle is for and neither do you so why make such a pointed statement. For all we know it is personally owned by one of the several surgeons for FDNY who are permitted to outfit their vehicles with such a package. Could also be the POV of a local fire chief. Personally, I don't care what it's used for... It's nasty looking, fast, handles well, and I'm glad that it was shared with us.

If you don't know what the use of the vehicle is, then how can you say the equipment is ridiculous? Is there nowhere in government where a vehicle of this nature wouldn't be necessary? Please tell us in your expert opinion. Think before you speak.

Truck 42 has been an awesome rig.... Big stick on a single axle with a bunch of great guys doing the work... It far surpassed the poor reviews that E-One's of it's era got... As per my previous post regarding who was getting the TL... I wasn't suggesting that Truck 41's KME was tired yet, but rather that given that 41 is located downtown, that maybe they are the best choice for the TL and that the boys at 42 might take the KME from them.

The pics of it that I just posted were taken in September (it takes a while to get anything digital from the shop).... The pics of the truck as is was most recently in service at the beginning of this thread were taken in 1998 during my Junior year of college. As for pics from before it was painted slime lime in the late 1970's, they are all sitting in Gettysburg and I won't have my hands on them until I go back to do a final inspection on the current work in progress.

Yes it's an old FDNY ALF Century. Jere Lady of Lady & Taylor Body Shop / Pennsylvania Fire Apparatus has refurbed several that continue to run today... See below.... Biglerville FD

The General Ike lives again... Ladders, gold leaf, striping, hose reels, and a few other odds and ins need to be added.

Who is getting the TL 41 or 42... Would seem logical for the TL to be downtown and the KME to go out to 42.

Date: 11-06-09 Time: 1215hrs Local Location: Gateway Center Building I/A/O I-4, Ivanhoe Blvd., & North Orange Ave. Units/Agencies: Orlando PD and Orlando Swat, OCSO & OCSO Avaition, Orlando FD, RuralMetro EMS. Description: Shooting on 8th floor of Gateway Center reported to be by former employee. 7 shooting victims (several in trauma arrest) tx to ORMC 1 chestpain tx to Florida Hospital South. I-4 shut down both ways at SR 50 and Princeton St. All local buildings on lockdown. Swat going floor by floor to evacuate, tx, and triage as needed. Writer: MFC2257 Update: Appears that one fatality with at least 5 other shooting victims along with one with chest pain. Suspect caught at his mothers house aprox 5 miles from crime scene. ORMC PIO reports 1 person in surgery 3 others likely to go to surgery as well.

Food on the stove 1425hrs 11/2/09. Pictured E61 and EMS Supervisor 61 (Reserve Truck 61 75ft Sutphen Quint in background). Also on scene E62 (also a Pierce Quantum) and Battalian 61.

A certain 1957 Mack??? If that is what you're referring to, as long as they took an insurance rider out on it, I'd loan it out in a heartbeat for active service so questions asked. It fits three across the bench so the entire career shift could sit.... it still meets Class A pumper spec's and the wipers do indeed work!!!! I'm not sure L&T has finished putting the new canvas on the roof frame, so I can't say that they'd stay dry.... But they would be able to see through the windshield!

Seems to me that the career guys should be able to run one of the volly engines when it is needed. Everyone is there for the same goal to protect Port Chester and the surrounding communities. There are plenty of places in the US where career guys in combo departments operate volly owned apparatus. Also, looking at the front of E58 (the Grumman right?) it has a pair of standard tourbus windshield (pantographic) wipers on it.... MCI, Prevost, etc. all operate with these wipers and I can't imagine that replacements cant be found. Bus Parts Site

Yet to be determined... It would be nice, but I can't say yet.

Somewhere inbetween.... Turbo diesel power, auto tranny, 1000gal tank are staying. During one of this rig's many modifications over the decades, twin hose reels were removed from above pump area and replaced with cross lays. As of today, L&T has one reel for me and might have another shortly. If that is the case, then cross lays will go. It was originally red and is red again. Original lettering and leaf will return. As you can see in the pics, it has early style "west coast" mirrors on it. They are staying for now as well, but I will most likely replace with original mirrors at a later date. Scott pak brackets on the running boards have been removed. I'm having a hard time finding the spot where I'd like this piece to exist in its restoration. The fact of the matter is that all the modifications that were done to this truck are part of it's 41 years of active service. Some of those mods though were either not very useful, or done to test out a new concept. As of the way it stands now, I'd like the truck to exist in the form it was in when it was running as 1st & 2nd due prior to the purchase of the new 1977 Seagrave and the 1980 Mack from Yardley. Some purists will have issue with that, but the way I feel about it is that GFD bought this truck in 1957 and over time modified it to the point where it was able to put in 41 years of service... bringing it all the way back to 1957 spec would be eliminating a lot of what made this engine so reliable. Heck... If I really restored it to 1957 spec I'd have to weld a roof back on it... When GFD did one of the build inspections in 1957 they told the plant in Allentown to cut the roof off and make it a semi open cab....

Oh yeah... Kinda funny, the Federal Q2A (not a B with a brake) is so well broken in, that when you drive down the road above 40mph or so, it spins in the wind and growls just loud enough to hear when you let off the accelerator!

Changing of the Guard. A sad day... but the 1998 Quint served the department very well for 10 years until both the 1977 Seagrave 100ft RM and the Quint were replaced by a 2008 Seagrave Marauder 100ft RM.

General Ike's last day of active service before the new Quint arrives. Left to right... E1-3 (1979 or 1980 CF Mack ex-Yardley, PA Engine Zero) E1-2 (1977 Seagrave twin to the Truck refurbished by Pierce with Arrow cab mounted on Seagrave chassis) T-1 (1977 Seagrave 100ft RM on single axle) "The General Ike" and R-1 (198? Saulsbury/International Heavy Rescue)....