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ESS is the best.... Go with glasses not goggles. Goggles suck, heck I won't even wear them when I ski... Glasses only. These are what I wear... They'll stop a shotgun blast at 30ft. Interchangeable lenses help with weather conditions for extended operations. ESS Safety Glasses

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Union Pacific was also using gas turbine power on land at the same time. They didn't last long (albiet longer than the ALF's) either. Union Pacific Gas Turbine Locomotives

IMO sell the helmet with a pair of approved safety glasses. If the FF doesn't put them on it's on them... Bourks are useless and big goggles and shields are cumbersome at best.

From further down that page on TWD.com "Ambulance 389 (Chapel Oaks). There were two off duty DC cops riding the unit. They took gun fire (which back in the day was not really that unusual) and called communications. While he was talking to them you could hear the gun shots going off in the background. The second time he keyed up with the second signal 13, the gun shots were much louder and he advised " A-389 to communications were are now returning fire". Communications very clearly and calmly said okay A389, shots fired ........... your returning same, PD is enroute."

This is from the PG County, MD forum on thewatchdesk.com They run so much action in the ghetto and on the DC border that funny stuff on the radio happens constantly whether or not its intentional humor or just the situation at hand. PG County, MD Funny Radio Transmissions

Was there ever any discussion of moving the KME to Snowden and putting the tower in town?

Hey... I knew that... But figured at 33 I was too old to answer... What's the verdict on age here?

Yes you're correct, in paragraph 3 it does indicate that appropriatly trained resources along with the equipment necessary be available.... IMO a RIT should be the one to be available..... But as we all know if a 5 or 6 man engine or combination of engine/truck rolls up they are going to work with 2 i/o before RIT is established. Its grey area that I hate. Personally in Westchester, as I've ranted before, there should be automatic dispatch. A possible structure fire should have at least 2 engines, 1 truck, and a dedicated RIT unit dispatched so that the RIT is theoretically arriving when the first units are going to work. A confirmed structure fire should be 3/2 plus RIT plus EMS on the first alarm. Westchester as a whole will never get there though.... Egos egos egos.....

You are absolutely correct that departments need to comply with 2 in/out. However, it doesn't need to be a RIT team. So if the RIT team is put to work, and other non RIT firefighting personnel are onscene then the standard is met. Personally, I believe that the second RIT should be onscene before the first RIT goes to work as a dedicated RIT team is best qualified to effect a rescue. Procedures for interior structural firefighting. In addition to the requirements set forth under paragraph (g)(3), in interior structural fires, the employer shall ensure that: 1910.134(g)(4)(i) At least two employees enter the IDLH atmosphere and remain in visual or voice contact with one another at all times; 1910.134(g)(4)(ii) At least two employees are located outside the IDLH atmosphere; and 1910.134(g)(4)(iii) All employees engaged in interior structural firefighting use SCBAs. Note 1 to paragraph (g): One of the two individuals located outside the IDLH atmosphere may be assigned to an additional role, such as incident commander in charge of the emergency or safety officer, so long as this individual is able to perform assistance or rescue activities without jeopardizing the safety or health of any firefighter working at the incident. Note 2 to paragraph (g): Nothing in this section is meant to preclude firefighters from performing emergency rescue activities before an entire team has assembled.

We read these articles all the time. Can someone please explain to me how a test can discriminate against someone based on race???? What are the actual arguments that are made by the Vulcans and their counsel?

Schwing has been making aerial devices concrete pumping for decades. They have provided booms for fuel storage and refinery fire fighting as well. Chances are if you see a 6 or 8 axle concrete pump on a highrise construction job, the boom is probably a Schwing product. Thus I'm willing to bet that if there are issues with this rig, it's not the boom. 99% of the rigs I've ever seen with Schwing booms on them are Mack MR or MC (I think) chassis with twin or tri steer front axles. I'm willing to bet that the biggest issue with this rig is whomever built it didn't have the skill set necessary to place that aerial device on that chassis with the proper electronics, pump, etc.

I wrote that quick reply on my cell phone... My point is that it isn't much more top heavy than an existing 3000gal tanker. I took the another members quote as implying that it was too top heavy to be worth having in service. I've driven one of these before and have over a decade of experience driving T-15 in Millwood which is arguably the biggest and tallest tanker in Westchester. A 6x6 setup like this one doesn't feel that much different. In fact, they are sprung so stiff, that the front end feels more solid than a RWD varient. Also, if you look at the center of gravity on an Engine-Tanker like Westchester's Tankers 10, 12, 5, 6, 15, etc that all carry a full bed of LDH above the water tank, I'd argue that the added height of a 6x6 with a semi elipictal tank and no hose up top as well as no added weight of upper compartmentalization that the two might be a wash... Who knows I might be wrong.

yes it's AWD. It isn't that top heavy. There are thousands of these style trucks used by road construction crews, forestry, and FD's looks like it's built like a water tender not a tanker hence no dump valve

I'm 20-30 years younger than you, but I recall seeing the Greenburgh Department of Civil Defense as late as the mid 1980's responding with an ex-military 6x6 with a box and cascade on it. Once Millwood and a few other departments put cascades in service on their heavy squads in the late 1980's I stopped seeing this unit around. Same as you described though, blue & white. I'm wondering if the Yonkers units were moved to Greenburgh?

You can think all you want but the definitions have been the same for decades... Open - No doors no roof Semi Open - No roof with doors Canopy - Enclosed chauffer & officer and partially covered jumpseat Enclosed - Everyone's inside.

I'm surprised the torque from the siren motor doesn't pull the scooter over while he's riding it.

I think there were more than six. See youtube clip below

We're way way way way too lax about chimney fires.... A chimney fire is still a fire. It doesn't take long for it to be an attic fire just like an oven fire doesn't take long to be a kitchen fire.... Today most departments don't take a pro-active approach to anything... How many guys get off a rig in SCBA's for a CO alarm????... They learn quickly when they're getting a headache while reading the meter in a house that has a REAL CO situation.

Uncharged lined to the roof.... It gives you the option of working with an educated MPO to place small amounts of water when needed to create a steam situation within the chimney to fight the fire as well as having a suppression option to retreat to the aerial with if the situation progresses. A fully charged line on the roof working at 100+gpm isn't the intended use nor should it be. Again... bring an uncharged line up the stick to the roof to have it if you need it. If you're working in a rural area where the nearest truck is teens or twenties of miles away, do your roof work with the uncharged line at the base of your ground ladder. Have a length of rope to secure it to the chimney if you need to go down and get it. Also.... The usual saw equipment for roof operations should be gathered by the chauffers and ready to go (ie: started and warmed up) because as everyone knows chimney fires turn into structure fires all the time right under our noses.

Well south of the Mason Dixon now so past experience is all I've got.... Best chimney firefighting SOP's I've experienced were in college in Gettysburg, PA. Tried to bring some of it home to Millwood but got the usual Westchester "we know it all attitude" and barely got a set of chimney bombs (plastic baggies with dry chem) on the rigs as a result.... Rumor has it that they've been removed since. HOWEVER I used to run 10+ serious chimney fires a year and the following always worked: 1: Make sure a truck company is there to have competent people on the roof 2: Use sand or dry chem via shovel to extinguish fire in fire box. Extinguishers only add to property damage. Leave exterior door open. 3: Place sheet of plywood over front of fireplace. 4: Have PPV in place (not necessarily running) at exterior door 4: Have crew on roof drop 1lb bags (preferably from the produce section of the grocery store because they melt easy) of dry chem into chimney. 4: Place metal plate over top of chimney, close exterior door. 5: Allow fire to suffocate in chimney. 6: Use PPV, exterior door, and roof crew to mitigate smoke condition via chimney as it is the most efficient way to expel smoke after fire has been extinguished. 7: The following should always be deployed as a backup: Uncharged line at firebox, uncharged line on roof, dry chem at fire box, chains on roof, utility rope on roof, pike pole or haligan on roof to be tied to rope, metal can to remove debris from fire box. Chimfex, AFFF, wet water, and dry chem via pressurized extinguisher only add to property damage. It doesn't take much to put a chimney fire out. It also doesn't take much for a chimney fire to put a house on the ground.

Just curious, why does the page load twice when you open it? It loads the first time and you begin to scroll to the topics, but then it reloads about 4-5 seconds later sending you to the top of the page.

Just the first time you come to the site from another.

There are volunteer companies in The Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, & Staten Island. Some are bigger and more active than others and respond in small isolated areas within their respective boro's.... It would appear that Aviation Hose in the Bronx is all but dead. Look on Martinelli's FDNY Trucks page and you'll see them listed at the bottom of the "Special Units" page.

Thats the frustrating thing about Sutphen's... Great looking cabs... Awesome sticks.... but really tough to get them set up so that they are effecient. The most frustrating thing ever is the stupid rack of ground ladders on the officers side where you need two people to get a 24, 28, or 35 off the rig. Much better when you can slide the ladder out, carry and throw by your self. I'm also not a fan of their turntable layout and controls. Some departments swear by them though... Orlando FD runs them exclusively and has for decades.