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You are correct. I mis-typed 2 FF's....

FYI... For my old brothers north of the Mason-Dixon.... a rescue's primary function down here is as an ambulance... As is the unit pictured. A heavy rescue or squad would be an extrication/confined space/USAR/high angle/etc unit. Because rescues down here are almost exclusively staffed with firefighters, they may also have mini CAFS pumps, basic firefighting and extrication equipment, and full PPE for the two FF's staffing the unit.

There are a good number of TDA Quints in Southern California. Seth has a bunch of pics I believe on his X635 photos site. JBE may have a bunch too from one of his trips. Here are a few from emergencyrigs.net - Credit to the original photographers.

Just curious, if Seagrave is remounting old '75s on new single axle Marauder's, why not build entire new units that way and start marketing them? The 'Scope hasn't changed much outside of hydraulics and controls in 40+ years.... If an old one will go on a new chassis with upgraded hydraulics/controls then why not a new 'Scope on a new chassis for those who don't have one to remount?

Children - So that you don't look like a bunch of whining babies maybe this is how to handle the situation: 1: PM the person who posted the pic and ask him/her to edit their post to include proper credit 2: Person who posted the pics properly credit them or remove them 3: Remember that the public and news sources read this forum and bickering amongst people within the fire service over pictures that were taken during an emergency may cause people to wonder why you weren't actually helping to put the fire out regardless if you are just buffing the call to take pics or not.... Perception is 90% of reality.

Humor... The cornerstone of the non-emergency side of the fire service.... So many great ways to have innocent fun.... Like when I was a newbie and after a drill a bunch of the old-timers told me that I had to become "familiar" with the mechanical aspects of all the rigs. I was instructed to go to the apparatus floor and check the brake fluid on the engine.... Twenty minutes later it dawned on me that the engine had air brakes.... No brake fluid to be found.... As I walked back to the radio room all I could hear was the deep laughing of a few guys who probably had the same thing done to them 30 years earlier. No harm no foul.

I agree... I hate raised roof cabs. You're supposed to be seated anyway. But at the end of the day, apparatus is there to do it's job, no matter how ugly the cab may look.

HA Classic I thought it was McDowells

Several agencies down here have fully sworn auxiliary officers. A member of my extended family is an Florida Highway Patrol Auxiliary officer. Most times he rides with a partner who is on the job, but occasionally will ride without especially during large events (bike week) or following large weather events. He is fully sworn, carries a department issued side arm his uniform and badge are very similar to those on the job. They are put through a rigorous training academy as well. Although he can mirandize a suspect and take them into custody, it is generally accepted that his partner who is on the job do it, OR if he is riding alone await an on the job MOS to mirandize so that the auxiliary officer is not burdened with potential court appearences etc. Link below. FHP Auxiliary Site

Volume, remote control, reach, less manpower, speed of coverage..... If there is enough fire to hook a hydrant anyway, and you've got a pre-piped waterway or deck gun then why not via remote control put give or take 1000gpm on it.

Read earlier posts. They had to wait for the power to be turned off.

In his original post it looked like his concern was that the master stream from the ladder pipe would come in contact with the mains both at the top of the pole and on the ground and create the possibility of electrocution. Mentioned earlier in a different post, the power was cut. Regardless, I'd ask to have the power cut as a precaution when using a master stream in this situation but honestly, the pics show the aerial device directing the flow of water through the lower lines on the pole which typically carry telecommunications and entertainment feeds and thus don't present the electrocution hazard that the mains at the top do. Can never be too careful though... Even with handlines on the ground someone could lose their balance and fall backwards with the hose stream flowing directly into the mains or a transformer (couple that with insulation worn off the wires from bad storms/tree damage) and the rest would be history....

I'm surprised that they couldn't find a buyer for the hospital... Some of the for-profits would have it in shape in no time... HCA, Universal Healthcare, Tenet.... To simply close the doors is leaving major $'s on the table for the Church. They could sell the hospital business, keep the real estate and lease it back to whomever buys the biz.....

I've seen plenty of times where two medics are assigned to a unit with multiple sets of gear. Once they meet up with the local BLS crew, if it is determined that only one medic is required for transport, the second medic continues to staff the ALS car in the first due until the BLS crew returns from the hospital with the other crew member.

Notwithstanding people's opinions on the particular department in the quote from below OR the merits of high speed chases, I'm curious to know if Westchester County has the capability via WCMC or any other medical institution to perform an in field amputation to facilitate a rescue. See quote below from Kentland, MD's webpage regarding a recent incident. From www.kentland33.com Friday, March 26, 2010 - Minutes before midnight shots rang out on Central Avenue in the area of Fire Communications. PG Police saw a car of juveniles shooting and pursued them in a high speed chase reaching 120mph just before the car lost control at Addison Road and James Farmer Way. Units from 8 (Seat Pleasant) arrived on scene to find a vehicle that had splintered a telephone pole into pieces leaving three trapped and 1 ejected. The ejected victim was found to be priority 4 and units started to remove the door and roof to free the driver. The backseat passengers were pinned under the dash and after an extended extrication Battalion 1 requested the "GO TEAM" be flown to the scene for amputation. At this time Rescue Engine 33 was special called to the scene by the Duty Chief. The Rescue Engine responded with 5 to the scene arriving at 12:56 and began working on freeing the trapped occupants. Within 5 minutes the occupants were freed, the "GO TEAM" was cancelled and Kentland Volunteers returned to service at 1:03 AM.

The Heavy Squad from 8 was already on the job. Rescue Engine 33 was added as the second Squad.

That tractor is probably an early '80's KW. It is the same chassis used by E-One to produce E-248 and E-245 (f.k.a. TS-2) for Millwood in 1982. I suspect it was an old fire or garbage truck with low miles that got converted into a tractor. EDIT: Scratch that thought... After a closer look, I believe it to be a Peterbilt that looks a lot like the KW garbage chassis that I referenced above. Edit II: After visiting Peterbilt's webpage, it would appear that it is a Model 320 chassis that is still in production.

Metz aerials have not been popular in the US because they don't fit the "persona" of a typical truck based on the way apparatus has historically been designed in the US. I'm not sure that I would jump at buying one if the decision was left to me. HOWEVER I suspect that if there are performance issues with these units it is because the US based manufacturer who mounted the unit on an American chassis was not as familiar with the unit as many overseas manufacturers are. Metz aerials are phenomenal pieces of equipment and have capacities that far exceed those of bulkier US built ladders. They have a great safety record and the ability to be used as a defacto crane when necessary to effect rescues (like the ability to remove the bucket from the stick and lift a car). On the other hand, their large turntable make ladder storage and high side compartments difficult to fit on the apparatus. I find it hard to believe that most of the Metz apparatus in the US actually fits the requirements to be called a "truck" insofar as ground ladders and equipment go.

Somehow Pierce has designed their chassis to accommodate more weight on a single axle than I've seen anywhere else. Here are two large squad's from mutual aid departments near where I went to college in Gettysburg, PA.... Also on singles. First Littlestown, PA Rescue 20, Second New Oxford, PA Rescue 13 (Now merged with East Berlin FD to make United Hook and Hose Company 33.)

We always found that the best way to ensure a timely response is for a fully staffed engine from another department to be put on standby in our quarters while units are out of town as well as implementing a dual response with neighboring department(s) for that time. In addition we let the local PD know that we had a standby crew in quarters so that they could assist in the event that the location of the job was in an odd, confusing area of town. This means that an immediate response of 6ff's plus a chief officer as well as simultaneously dispatched units from the next jurisdiction will be able to provide adequate staffing. We of course would return the favor to that department at another time.

Illegal is a strong word. They're expensive so FDNY doesn't spec them as a PA300 or an EQ2 can provide sufficient audible warning.... Personally I believe that all full size fire apparatus should have the respect of a real Q-2b. Why there is so much drama about companies fitting them in quarters I've heard several opinions but the one I hear most often is that the shops will remove them if the rig goes in for maintenance because they don't want any unauthorized/aftermarket wiring done on the rigs for fear of voiding warranty or creating undue strain on an electrical system that my not have been spec'd to manage the draw of a real Q.... Any FDNY folks want to opine?

The the rig may have been spec'd without hard tubes.... I've seen it for urban departments that have little to no need for drafting. Their entire district and every district for 20 miles has hydrants throughout.

Do you mean something like an RMP running radar from a driveway?

Mount Kisco uses an ambulance body on a ford E-450 chassis if I recall for their FAST.

Even though I live in Winter Park (Orlando), my family owns a thoroughbred farm in Ocala and I pass the E-One plant several times a month. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance to the Ossining Fire Department between apparatus committee trips to Ocala. Best Regards -Ed-