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I remember there was a second fire but not where, did you remember the civilian that took gear off your ladder and was walking around the scene and when asked what company he belonged to he said Wassaic, busted, arrested for impersonating a firefighter.

looks well enough to still provide useful service to a FD

June 16, 1990, yeah I remember the choice was made to cut the walkway to save the rest of the building.

To all the Vets, Thank You for your service to this great country of ours, USA

Exactly what I was going to type, what can you add other than another WOW!

According to pojo that was the report but the FD did an aggressive search and that report proved negative, the family did lose a dog however. http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pb...NEWS01/81110025

Great work by all.

Yes he just got his bottle changed, I posted a note of this photo in another thread because I know all the keen eyes here at EMTBRAVO pick everything up.

Yes sir just like our apparatus!!!!!! Go Blue Crew. when I was chief they used to call me Papa Smurf, gotta love it

This paragraph taken from 2007 APA _ The Engineered Wood Association, Form # TT-015C, 11/2007 Firefighters should be aware that while floor sag may be a widely accepted warning of an impending structural failure, floor sag is not always present or visible prior to catastrophic collapse in a fire, regardless of the joist type, due to the fire's intensity, the combination of joist spans and loads present, the location of serious structural fire damage or simply because it is too dark and/or smoky to see a sag in the floor. This is true for all types of structural joists, including combustible such as sawn lumber, wood I-joists, and open web wood trusses and noncombustible members such as lightweight steel joists. When unprotected, any lightweight residential floor/ceiling assembly, either combustible or noncombustible, may fail within just a few minutes of the fire's ignition. When subjected to a standard ASTM E 119 fire test, for instance, unprotected, fully loaded sawn-lumber floor joists typically fail in eight to twelve minutes. When fully loaded and subjected to the same fire-test conditions, unprotected wood I-joist floors typically fail in four to eight minutes, depending on flange size and web thickness. The few minutes of difference in endurance times among the different types of joists is of no practical use to the firefighter for predicting the safety of the floor. It makes sense, therefore, that when there is a serious fire beneath a floor, there is no "safe" amount of time that anyone can remain on that floor.

Correct on the timeline, the burns were open not in a closed floor, I just took the FASNY course on lightweight construction and the instructor had some excellent resources on TJI, well worth attending if it comes to your area.

Fire actually was 12/24/85.

Here is alittle video on TJI. Trus Joist I- joist for engineered floor and roof joists http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdFLuhxGHps

get busy, Signman advised me that the Brandy's fire was 12/24/85, for some reason that thread was closed?

There you go with the CAPS again, you should get some royalities for advertising for them!

Not sure if I should thank you are not? Dan you need to post some of your pictures of past fires!!!!

Happy B/D to all the current and former Marines THANK YOU!!!!!

Signman I also posted you mug in the rehab area under the Lloyd lumber thread too. Now that they all know what you look like you better think twice about using those CAPS again.

We all need to support this site, excellent source of information here, help out Seth and the Admins.

Well a well organized dept. should have thier first second and third alarms already in the CADS. We cannot help ifsome of that equipment is o/o/s, if so then a proper replacement will be made by the dispatch center. If a Chief just has a generic assignment to cover the entire district well then they should not be a fire chief.

First Seth who made the call? was it a 3rd party call, a welfare check? I would say that based on the information you provided and we, the FD was dispatched then I believe that our 911 center would automatically send the PD. Now throw in a call for chest pains and we arrive and we get no answer at the door then we would send a member around to see if they can make a visual contact through a window or another door while checking with dispatch to ensure we are at the right location and request the PD to the scene to secure the scene if forcible entry is required. I would enter through an opening that can be checked to ensure the patient is not present behind it and us the least intrusive entry point as well to minimize property damage. Now as far as breaking and entering I would say that we would not be based on attempting to make patient contact, but some with a legal background will need to answer that one. We had a call that was explained above and there was no one home, the patient had already left in a private vehicle to the hospital.

Me (Asst. Chief days) on the right giving the Chief an update after coming out of the basement after an agressive interior attack Through the vent hole provide by JHK Gearing up to go in. Signman in rehab, who would have thought

Yes it did, Also Joe it was 85 or 86, I only know this because I met Donna in 84 and we were supposed to go there on New Years Eve the following year. and yes i have some shot from the Bogs as well, my new avatar is a picture of the first line going in.

The fire was in December, cold and icey and because of the remote area we had to shuttle water, as you can see by the pictures it was well involved on arrival.

Excellent shots!