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She was still down on the ground when I left and yes the medic help start IV fluids, she is two weeks from giving birth.

sorry the pictures got out of order, they posted by # not by how I downloaded them

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It's looks to me Barry that it is a light rescue/equipment truck, not sure why they have it named in with the BRAT vehicles

thanks Dan, there are things on there that I had no idea were there as well.

Awesome find Dan!!!!!!

Hope to take both the Fire Safety Rep and the Specialist Trainee tests

CAFS reduces the surface tension of the water by means of the foam concentrate used. Less water is needed to put out the fire. CAFS systems can vary the consistency of the bubbles created, it can be used in different ways. A foam with less water (dry foam) can have the consistency of shaving cream and be used as an insulating blanket, to stop fire spreading to adjoining structures. A foam with more water will penetrate combustibles better (I.e. soaking into thick layers of grass or brush, garbage or silage). A Compressed Air Foam System can generate a foam blanket that will isolate fire or potential fuel from oxygen, thus putting the fire out. here is an excellent article worth reading http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4760/is_200910/ai_n42039877/

here are some shots of the Seagraves shortly after it returned home, scroll down, they are after the tanker pictures http://www.emtbravo.net/index.php/topic/35888-millbrook-49-31-delivered-2192010/page__p__204842__hl__millbrook+__fromsearch__1#entry204842

Excellent post Chief, anyone that doesn't open areas up during overhaul are just kidding themselves and will most likely we back for a rekindle, whatever is used to extinguish the fire, it doesn't eliminate the overhaul stage of the incident.

Great response Ryan and I not for a moment did I think you were bashing it. You are one of more proactive younger firefighters I know and I never said you were against it, we have had that conversation many times, agreed on the concepts and the training aspects of the CAFS, unless we have used anything first hand , it's human nature to have doubts about something new, you are like me, SHOW ME! As far as water, yes it is the uniform extinguishment agent we use and it's free, again how many times have you been to a fire and seen it applied incorrectly and the tactics used with it be totally wrong. I am totally with you TRAIN TRAIN and TRAIN some more, whether we use water, foam, the Fit5 or whatever the choice may be. On a side note: it's great to see some of the Dutchess posters back here!!!!

Thanks Chief, excellent post and well said.

Our BRAT using it's on board Class A system and the portaCAFS unit from firematic with myself the operator, yes 129k I still got a sad excuse for a stash!

Seth we started using Class A since 1989 when the Dash came equipped with a dual agent system, to go along with the what ATV300 said in an earlier post because of a turn over of members and the loss of several others, the lack of training of the newer members the foam system sat unused for several years. We again a few years ago started using Class A foam for grass and brush and deep seated type woods fires. Here are a few examples, the first four are of a deep seated large pile of garbage, wood and debris and 69-12 using the on board system along with a Pro-pak foam unit.

here are a few of a house fire which was dispatched with occupants trapped in Amenia at a really remote part of their district at I believe was around 3am where they used a CAFS line to knock down the fire in only a few minutes, the images are kind of blurry, sorry, this is one of my own experiences of being on a CAFS line. First one is shortly after arrival, second is with the CAFS line in operation., third one is upon arrival at the rear.

Dan and Ryan have you been to any calls other then the one in Amenia where CAFS was used? I know Millerton has had several calls where they used CAFS, the one that comes to mind was the Smith fire just off Route 22 where they used the CAFS and it made a huge difference, I drove by the house the next day and could not even tell the place had a fire. I have personally been at two structure fire where I have been on the CAFS line and it made a significant difference on the knock down with alot less water and alot more flexibilty in operating the line and less fatigue on the line guys. As with anything, it isn't full proof, training and using it will only make it's use that much more effective. Let's be honest here Ryan and Dan you guys will probably never use it (unless on a mutual aide call) nor purchase it and no matter how many times it is shown that it is can make a difference there are some departments because of tradition that won't even consider it and the one time (Amenia's fire which by the way had a void left open during renovations that allowed the fire to travel to the attic) where it isn't effective the nah sayers will rise up and say I told you so. We can argue back and forth on the merits of it to the cows come home, fire will go out without water and without any training or tactics. Ryan how many times can we talk about the tools in the box, how many guys can't or don't even don their issued turnout gear (which is as basic tool as a flat screw driver) or an SCBA at a structure fire, let alone be pro-active enough to use and train with a new tool. Heck how many times have you been at a call where a ground ladder can't even be raised or placed properly, another basic tool. So let's be careful and not look through rose colored glasses when we are talking about the good ole tool box when even the basic tools aren't even taken out of the box routinely, you have seen and so haven't I, call after call. Dan I said our zone not area, several departments North of Dover love it, train with it and use it so it is proven to them, maybe not you, Ryan or I but to those departments that use it, it has been proven to them and that's all that matters to them. As I said in the thread about our engine, I wasn't sold on it totally either and still have some limited doubts (because of my lack of using it) but after many discussions with our officers, putting my hands on a CAFS line and talking with the Battalion 4 Chiefs we added to our specifications and it was because we wanted to be proactive and add another feature that will aid us and our neighbors for many years to come. Ryan the PPV training is a sore subject with me, remind me when I see you next time about a PPV on attack story. Hey Fiftyone Pride where are you on this discussion, I know you chimed in earlier but please add some real world experience you have had using CAFS and why you now have two CAFS engines!!!!

Love this shot of Beacon's Ladder

Protection Engine Company and Dan (129x) loves "Trucks"!!!!!!

That you did about CAFS working in the rural setting, I was just reinforcing the point about whether you have manpower or not, CAFS is the way to go for us departments without a municpal water supply.

Agreed but the begging here in the rural area without hydrants and paid personnel just isn't working so it's time to try and find something else that works and the other departments in our zone have proven that CAFS does work!

I have never been a big fan of having anything that says I am a Past Chief, whether it's a vehicle plate, helmet front or whatever, those in the fire service that I work with know what titles I have held and the knowledge I have to offer at a scene.

Here is what I started wearing after getting out as a Chief officer in January.