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What was the very specific application being tested?

Amazing. Congratulations Lt. Col./Sgt. Baaden and thank you for your service

I don't know how far you want to take this, or what your willing to risk; but if this has been going on for 10+ years, maybe an anonymous call to the media might be in order.

I agree. Go to HR, the chief's office, the mayor's office, the union and whoever else you need to This kind of behavior CAN NOT be tolerated in the emergency services. This "firefighter" needs a one way ticket to the unemployment line

Also, I thought there was research out their that said CISD, or at least mandatory CISD ended up doing more harm than good? I know several people wrote into JEMS after they did a pro-CISD article bringing this fact up EDIT: As far as the ADHD comment was concerned, I know of at least one specific case where someone was on medication for ADHD, didn't disclose it, and went on to serve honorably in the US Army ABN during Operation Iraqi Freedom/Operation Enduring Freedom. Had they disclosed the fact they were on medication as an elementary school child, they would have been kept out of the Army. I just don't think it is right, that one has a better chance of being hired with criminal arrests (that were plea-bargained to violations) as a teenager or young adult, then with having seen a psych doctor as a small child

Unfortunately it seems we have a long way to go with ending the stigma of mental illness in emergency services. I have seen people fail psych tests to become police/firefighters etc because they took ADHD medication or saw a counselor for a parent's divorce etc at age 7. Also, what happens what happens when someone who is a good police officer/firefighter/EMT has CIS stress issues and can't work the road anymore, espeically in volunteer agencies without retirement? Will the department be willing to find an inside position for them? or are they just dismissed?

Anyone know anything about any of the other counties? I took mine in Orange on the same date

I believe Helicopper said that WCPD is not equipped for Hoist and Air/Sea rescue operations. Rockland's helicopter is listed as "Long Term Out of Service" on the Rockland County Online CAD System The only other agency around here that has air rescue capability is the New York State Police, and I'm not sure if they are 24/7 or what

I think they can fine you BECAUSE it is a private lot. A business owner or property owner can have any rules they like, provided they aren't illegal or discriminatory. Now, how they would collect those fines is another matter

I'm guessing that this was bought after Hurricane Sandy with all of the nursing home and hospital evacuations.

Orange County BOCES offers this program: www.ouboces.org/CTE/CareerAcademies/firescience.cfm Upon successful completion of the program, students are eligible to sit for the New York State Firefighter 1 Certification Exam. Program follows the New York State Office of Fire Prevention and Control Curriculum: • Firefighter I • Scene Support Operations • Hazardous Materials Operations • Confined Space Safety • Defense Against Weapons of Mass Destruction Awareness Certification Opportunities: • Firefighter I • American Heart Association CPR, First Aid and AED • New York State Emergency Management Office Certification: Incident Command System (ICS-100)

Dispatch can not give orders to people, unless they are sworn officers. Even if they are sworn officers, they would have to identify themselves as such and make it clear that they are giving the order as a police/peace officer

Nothing is wrong with the response. But should it have required 3 departments? or should each department be able to handle at least an initial attack self-sufficently?

I really don't think any of this has to do with I/CAD. I worked in a system that used I/CAD and it worked flawlessly for us, mind you our call volume was much less then NYC's. If anything it is a UCT problem.

Yes, it makes sense to us, but I don't think the average civilian (who is voting people into and out of office understand that) Also, these are the prerequisites for AVET: Prerequisites: Firefighter I; Basic Firefighter; or Firefighting Essentials, or Scene Support Operations, or basic level EMS training

But doesn't it only matter that you are qualified in what task you are doing that came into question. For example, in an extrication, if the people operating are AVET + Rescue Tech certified. Does it matter if they are FF1, FF2, or any other suppression cert?

There was an automatic alarm in Orange County today. Responding were 3 different fire departments The district the call was in; an automatic mutual aid district; another district with their ladder standing by in quarters; and a county coordinator. For a residential alarm. You don't have the manpower to handle an AFA, without excessive mutual aid?

This is the real reason I don't think there will be a standardized training course in NYS for a very long time: It has nothing to do with home rule, consolidation (or lack thereof) or anything else. The reason is simple, I don't think the general public cares that much about it. If John Q. Public's house is on fire, does he really care if the firefighters all have Bloodborne Pathogens and Workplace Violence training? If Suzie Q. Public's car is wrapped around a tree, does she care if the people cutting her out have FF1+AVET or Scene Support+AVET? Does she even know what those classes are? If their autistic child runs off in to the woods, do you think they give one iota of concern to what kind of firefighting training the searchers have? All the public really cares about is they call 911, and a red truck with flashing lights shows up and fixes the problem. Without them (public) caring, I unfortunately don't see anything changing, especially in this day of 2% tax caps and words like "austerity" and "sequestration" becoming part of our daily language

Because individual agencies can add to training. They can not take away from it

In my department OSHA and Interior status are two different things. OSHA means you have completed BBP/HAZMAT, Fit Test, SCBA qualification and a certain number of drills. These members are qualified to wear an SCBA (i.e. HAZMAT, Car Fires, other calls where you need to be on air) Interior means you have completed both the above OSHA training and Firefighter I, and are qualified to enter a structure on fire

I would guess the arguments against would be either: 1. Exterior Scene Support Members who feel that they will be coerced into going interior (i.e. "We are getting rid of exteriors, either full firefighter or good luck and good riddance") 2. Members who didn't see the (this does NOT mean one single way of completing the training) and think that they will be sent away to a full-time academy which would be incompatable with their jobs. 3. Members who think they are in general too busy to train. 4. Certain veteran members "I've been fighting fires since your parents were toddlers, I don't need some fancy training class to tell me what to do" 5. Fools. "That stuff only happens in big cities, why should I train for something that might possibly happen once in 100 years"

Yes Anyone with the title of firefighter should have like training. I am fire police with my department and I will not identify myself as a firefighter because I have no training as such. I think the same should go for others who don't engage in firefighting activities.

Yes, there are definitely a few of those. I've known of people who were on the other side of the county sign in for calls, because they were "available" to respond for second calls.

Yes, exterior "firefighters" get the same LOSAP as interior firefighters. Now, there are certain cases where I am not opposed to that. For example, interior firefighters who were injured LOD and can now only perform exterior functions, fire police (because they have a hazardous job as well), and similar type positions. I do not think that exterior only "social members" (i.e. the ones you never see at a fire scene but are always signing in at the station, should get the points)

That whole WTC command is another issue... 600 cops for a building they don't have primary jurisdiction in anyway.