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I think government "justifies" having more men on garbage trucks then fire trucks because the way they think is: Everyone has garbage, not everyone has fires/emergencies It's absolute B.S., but it is how they think

So what should happen in a boro that gets about 200 calls a year. If you put paid EMS in there, or paid fire, the taxpayers will soon be screaming about them "doing nothing" or "sitting around"

Date: 10/27/2013 Time: 0800 - 1800 Incident Type: 3rd Alarm Brush Fire Location: Mount Eve District: Florida Fire District Units: FIRE UNITS: Florida (E606, M609, T610, M614, Ambulance 611, Car 1, Car 2, ATV, Support Trailer); Warwick( E-634 standby in Florida, ATV/M-631, M-644, Car 1); Greenwood Lake (Brush Truck, ATV, Assistant Chief, Car 1); Pine Island (M-655 Brush Truck, M-656, Asst Chief); Chester (M-912, M-918, ATVs, Chief's Vehicle); Monroe (M-532, M-539, UTV); Tuxedo; Woodbury(M-505, M-526, UTVs, Chief); Johnson (M-716?, M/ATV-717); Sparrowbush (41-Support, ATV-1, Kubota UTV, U-846); Huguenot (UTV, Support Unit); West Point (UTV, 8 wheeler, Support Pickups, Chief); Goshen(942, ATV-1); Cronomer Valley(ATV, Support Pickup, Chiefs); Coldenham(M/ATV-200, M-206, Chief); Salisbury Mills(M-556?, ATV), 36-7?, 36-16, NYS OFPC EMS UNITS: Warwick EMS(Support 204, Fly Car 205, UTV); Chester EMS (Support 313, Ambulance 316, UTV), Mobile Life Support(SORT 6 Rehab Bus); Orange County EMS 15, Orange County EMS 17 LAW ENFORCEMENT UNITS: NYSP Aviation, New York State Forest Rangers Description: 3rd Alarm Brush Fire. Also had a fire on Monday and same incident on Saturday

I have heard them on Orange County Priority 159.135 before. I think I remember hearing them as 2H17 and 2H18

Who is using non hospital based paramedics as 911 providers? I am not aware of any

I would think probably them or Atlantic

I don't know how I feel about taking officers off the desk. I have heard of cases where women in domestic violence situations have ran/driven to the police station with their attacker chasing them only to find a locked door and callbox. In that case, a callbox is no where near as good as a live officer

In NJ, 911 paramedics are required by law to be through a hospital. That severely limits the competition as the commercial services can't get involved.

So what would be a better system? Let agencies hire whoever they wanted based off of resumes and interviews. That sounds good, until you consider that without some kind of objective system, the agencies criteria for hiring will be: 1. Last Name 2. Financial Contributions to elected officals 3. Number of times your father has golfed with the (mayor, chief, councilman etc) Look at New Jersey's "chief's towns" (police departments that don't use civil service), they are filled with cases where experienced police officers, veterans, etc were passed over for the 18 year old son of the mayor or councilman

I too think that NY's civil service system needs to be modernized and more automated. (i.e. waiting 3 to 6 months to have test results snail-mailed to you is ridiculous. However, I do believe some form of civil service system is required because there are still a lot of small villages and towns that would become entirely political and nepotistic without a civil service system

That's why you should give Narcan slowly, and only enough to get them breathing on their own regularly.

Okay thanks. That is the one that I thought it was. Hopefully someone is hiring off of this list.

which test is 66239? I got my results for dispatcher. I didn't take public safety dispatcher so I have no idea about that one

I belive this is part of DCJS's IMPACT program, which pairs sheriff's deputies/county police and state police with local police to increase manpower. I know it is done in Newburgh, Rochester and I'm sure others. Personally, I find this to be a much better version of IMPACT then the NYPD version of taking rookies putting them on footposts and making them write tickets all day

Does this only effect operational protocols or administrative ones too? For example, upstate, there are agencies which are part-time ALS, meaning when a paramedic is working, the agency operates ALS, when the paramedic goes off duty the agency reverts to BLS. This is currently disallowed in HVREMSCO, and I think Westchester as well. Would this protocol be changing?

When I was in the DC Area I believe they combined the 1st alarm and working fire dispatches, as we would send 4 engines, 3 special services (at least 1 ladder/tower, the rest were either ladders/towers or rescues), 2 Transport units (ambulances) 1 Batt. Chief, 1 Safety Officer, 1 EMS officer The next level was a task force, which brought I believe 2 engines, 1 special service, 1 transport unit.

I was always under the impression that White Plains was an all career department, but when I went to the WCVFA parade on Sunday I saw an Engine and what looked to be a POV labeled "White Plains Fire Department Volunteer Division". I checked on the White Plains website and didn't see any information, so I was just wondering if anyone here knew anything about them. Do they have operational responsibilities? Are they solely a PR/Parade type function?

Police side test or fire side test?

Don't some private EMS agencies also have contracts for hotels, office buildings, skyscrapers etc. Now everyone has a cell phone and calls 911 so that may have effected it somewhat, but I thought in certain facilities security would call a private company directly

I was reading some of my older posts and I noticed that all of my old incident alerts that I made for Orange/Rockland counties are showing up in the New York City Discussion forum. Is that a glitch?

I didn't even realize that paid departments got 2% monies. My understanding of 2% was that it was money the fire district paid back to the fire companies in a volunteer system for good and welfare of members

I was wondering if anyone can help me track the lineage of Regional EMS, as it moved from company to company. I believe it goes Regional EMS(part of Rockland Paramedic Service) -> Regional EMS (standalone company) -> Regional EMS (part of Hudson Valley Paramedics) -> Care 1 EMS -> EMStar. Is that right? I believe Regional was its own company for a while, or am I mistaken and did it go right from RPS to HVP?

That they don't respond to any calls. They are solely for parades.

I believe our fire IC's have DPW frequencies in their radios. But they will usually just go through dispatch since our town PD dispatches FD/PD/EMS and can talk to DPW/Transit

In Orange County: Mobile Life: Sole Response: City of Middletown, City of Newburgh, Town of Mount Hope, Town of Waywayanda ALS Intercepts: Wallkill Volunteer Ambulance, Montgomery Volunteer Ambulance, Pine Bush Vol. Ambulance Goshen Volunteer Ambulance, Monroe Volunteer Ambulance, Woodbury Vol. Ambulance Highlands Volunteer Ambulance, Newburgh Volunteer Ambulance Paid Daytime Staff: Monroe Volunteer Ambulance, Goshen Volunteer Ambulance, Newburgh Vol Ambulance(?) EMStar: ALS Intercepts: Warwick Volunteer Ambulance, Florida Volunteer Ambulance, Greenwood Lake Vol. Ambulance Pine Island Volunteer Ambulance, Chester Volunteer Ambulance, Lenape Volunteer Ambulance Greenville Volunteer Ambulance Primary Back-up: Florida Ambulance, Portions of the Chester Ambulance District TransCare: ALS Intercepts: Cornwall Volunteer Ambulance Rockland Paramedic Service: Tuxedo Volunteer Ambulance Note: Port Jervis, Blooming Grove, New Windsor, Kiryas Joel all maintain paid paramedics that provide in house ALS.