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Warwick E-635 and Winona Lake E-322 both moved up to the Sheriff's command post at the scene

Who is Incident Commander at this? I've heard "Cornwall Car 1" call as that and also "Car 36-1", but I've yet to hear ICS terms like Command, Operations etc.

Does anyone know why NYS Civil Service keeps pushing back the date for their exams The titles of Communications Technician (SP Dispatcher), Disaster Preparedness Program Representative, Criminal Justice Program Representative and Criminal Justice Policy Analyst were originally scheduled to be announced in December, then it changed to January, and today it changed again to February. I know it says tentative examination schedule but still, If the state doesn't want to give the exams, they should just cancel them.

I think the first thing that needs to be addressed, like usual, is staffing. Honestly, during the day when most terrorist attacks are likely to occur, can you staff the apparatus to send to the decon area, and still have coverage back in your first due area. I think the only solution to this problem is either to have rostered duty crews or have combo/paid departments, which in this economy, good luck convicing Taxpayer Q. Pennypincher to support that idea.

I would only support it if they required EVOC/CEVO or some form of driver training prior to being authorized to use it. However, it isn't without precedent other POV's are already allowed to use red (Fire Chief/Ambulance Captain/ESAV's. It also seems that FP vehicles would still be "courtesy vehicles", having red as a courtesy color and an emergency color is a very bad idea (way too confusing for the public)

As a fire police officer and recent graduate of fire police training, I can state for a fact that what firedude says is correct. While we have peace officer powers, they are mainly so that if someone runs the traffic post, a police officer doesn't need to personally witness the incident, but can issue a UTT/criminal complaint on our behalf (like the fellow officer rule). The class contained ZERO training on self-defense, arrest procedures, handcuffing, or constitutional law. In fact, I learned more about those topics from my police explorer post and NYPD Auxiliary training( which only gives peace officer status for purposes of traffic control in times of national emergency or war). Interestingly enough, the class does include training on how to properly photograph a fire scene for arson investigation photos, and on how to maintain a crime scene log, and I have been told by numerous people that I should take Fire Behavior/Arson Awareness. Also, the majority of my class was in their 30s-50s, with 3 or 4 in their 20's and 1 or 2 18/19 year olds. The instructors also kept saying that "the days of fire police officers being elderly firefighters 'put out to pasture' are over". Combine this with the bill referenced above, and the fact DCJS is pushing for a standardized peace officer training program of 180 hours, I have to say I think fire police may be headed in a different direction

Wasn't Rodney King on PCP and tazed with no effect, which eventually lead to the infamous video? Was that because the TASER malfunctioned/wasn't deployed properly?

The damages would be the difference in the pension from Tier 5 to Tier 6. But your right that it would be extremely difficult to prove intent on the states part, and that you may not have standing until you are ready to collect the pension, and also that any legal protections may only apply to people who are already on an eligible list that got inactivated until Tier 6 was passed (under some kind of detrimental reliance/bait-and-switch action if it can be proven they would have taken another job somewhere else but for the Tier 5 retirement).

Take a look at this link: www.warwickfire.com The Warwick Fire Department and Greenwood Lake Fire Department have sponsored Chief Goldfeder to come to give his presentation at Warwick Valley High School. Registration information is provided on the site.

If that is the reason, the State seems to be opening themselves up for liability, no? If it can be proven that the pushed the exams back with the sole intention of putting those people into Tier 6?

I'm assuming that all officers in the Winhall PD are at least EMT Basic certified? I don't think I've ever seen the EMS star of life so prominent on a police vehicle.

I wonder if we won't start seeing more public safety departments crop up, where police officers are cross-trained as fire and ems. In fact, when I saw those pictures of the fire engines in Florida with the patient transport capabilities, I half-jokingly thought that in 20 years, there will be no separte police officers, firefighters, EMT/Medics, or even DPW workers. Everything will be handled by one department, by people with one generic job title like government worker.

I think the one way to reduce things like this happening, is something that no one will ever officially advocate, because it is not "PC". Basically it is to restore the model that people who are seriously mentally ill belong in secured inpatient facilities "mental hospitals". What happened is that a couple of decades ago everyone was pushing community treatment, but they did not give the community treatment programs appropriate funding. This meant that the mentally ill people released in these programs could not be correctly treated and supervised, and you end up with situations like VA Tech (the first incident). Along with this idea, insurance companies need to reimburse hospitals better for psych. patients. Right now hospitals are either closing psych units, or pushing psych patients out as quick as possible because they are not making money on those beds. Of course, all of the above assume that the problem is mental illness. When the problem is violent criminals being on the street (Oakland CA and Lakewood WA Police shootings) the solution there is quite obvious, keep those people in prison for a long time.

Did they say anything about a motive yet? I'm guessing suicide by cop, I mean, shooting a police officer pretty much guarantees one of two outcomes, either the police shoot you, or you go to prison for life, and in VA, FL, TX, get the death penalty.

I understand what you are saying. It's just that some college professors/administrators wouldn't make any distinction between the two. Some are so uber-liberal that all they would see is that there is a young person with an "immature brain" who isn't as scared as they are, and are therefore a threat. I have even read reports of uniformed campus police officers who were taking classes at the school they worked, asked to leave the classroom because the professor didn't like there being a gun in the room while he was teaching.

-<quote='JJB531'> Early identification, recognition, and mitigation of individuals who have exhibited signs of being a potential threat. Some signs may include: individuals who gave made verbal or written threats of violence against an individual or group of individuals; individuals who sympathize or have a "morbid" curiosity with previous active shooter incidents; individuals who exhibit increasing erratic behavior, individuals with an "unhealthy" fascination with weapons, etc. The list goes on, but these are just a few examples. With a proper Violence Reduction Program, these individuals, once identified, can be addressed in the means necessary. Doesn't mean it's 100% guaranteed to work, but if it does, then the effort was worthwhile.<\quote> The only problems with this solution are define "morbid" curiosity and an "unhealthy" fascination with weapons. What happens when a student whose father is a SWAT officer, is an avid hunter, and competes in sanctioned competitions gets identified by this system and forced into unneeded counseling. Take it a step further and say it prevents them from obtaining a law enforcement job, or any job requiring a security clearence, what is the recoruse? Not saying the overall idea is bad, but you need to tread carefully here

Newburgh is really going to be in bad shape because everyone else is cutting too. How will they fill the coverage gaps? Both the Orange County SO and New York State Police are stretched thin as it is.

You are probably right. I think the box that I was thinking of was the hospital. It's been a long time since I've listened to CMFD's internal dispatch channel, normally I just listen to the county on my pager.

Did it recently change to 2 & 1, I thought I have heard alarms with 3 & 1 being sent. I also assume the vollies respond directly to the scene?

I always thought the 8 hours was just Right to Know, BBP, and violence prevention. At least that is how my department does it. They also hold OSHA drills every so often to cover the rest of the topics.

According to the article, they laid off the four full-timers and created 8 part time slots. Four of those 8 were supposed to be offered to the full-time dispatchers. I wonder how many accepted them?

What is Volusia County's use/justification for these. In Broward it was somewhat understandable, as there were some unique circumstances involved, what about Volusia? Are these first line EMS pieces, or will they only transport in an absolute emergency?

ace84: I didn't know that. Very sad to see that happen. However, isn't there a difference in that technically the Orange County SO isn't really supposed to have a "patrol" division anyway and its current form is relatively new, while Rockland has always had one, regardless of what the charter says If anything we should be consolidating the small towns/villages into the SO, not stripping the SO down

Thanks. I didn't know how much Care 1/Regional really had on that side of the river and Ulster( ALS backup for mobile life).

So what is the final answer on Pleasant Valley? Do they have it or not? Also, which nursing homes do they have in Orange?