FiftyOnePride

On 11/23/11 the Hillcrest FD and Hatzollah Ambulance Squad was dispatched to a one car MVA on Route 45 in the village of New Square. It appears that the on duty, code enforcement officer for the Town of Ramapo had a heart attack while driving. The car stuck a fire hydrant.

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Date: 10.12.2011
Time: 2338hrs - 0146hrs.
Location: 21 Old Post Road #1, X-Streets: Winchell Mountain Road and Flood Lane.
Frequency: Dispatch, Response, Command 3, FG 13 En Route, FG 14 On Scene
Units Operating: Millerton: 51-11, 51-31, 51-14, 51-51, 51-72. NDP: 70. Lakeville: 30, 400. Sharon: Tower 1.
Weather Conditions: 50's, Rain.
Description Of Incident: Structure fire in a trailer with renovations and additions. Electrical fire that spread to the attic of the original structure, and then into the crawl space for the addition. Fire was K/O with minimal damage beyond a 10 foot radius from the origin point in an electrical panel.
Reporters: 51Pride
Writer: 51Pride

Date: 10.12.2011
Time: 2338hrs - 0146hrs.
Location: 21 Old Post Road #1, X-Streets: Winchell Mountain Road and Flood Lane.
Frequency: Dispatch, Response, Command 3, FG 13 En Route, FG 14 On Scene
Units Operating: Millerton: 51-11, 51-31, 51-14, 51-51, 51-72. NDP: 70. Lakeville: 30, 400. Sharon: Tower 1.
Weather Conditions: 50's, Rain.
Description Of Incident: Structure fire in a trailer with renovations and additions. Electrical fire that spread to the attic of the original structure, and then into the crawl space for the addition. Fire was K/O with minimal damage beyond a 10 foot radius from the origin point in an electrical panel.
Reporters: 51Pride
Writer: 51Pride

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I don't (ever) post because I often feel like I have nothing to add. I have no experience other than as family. My grandfather was FDNY. My brothers were volunteers in Dutchess County.
But I want to take this opportunity to say thank you to each and every one of you. As a family member, I understand the sacrifices you make, the training you make time for and the time you are away from your families, friends and other activities so you can serve your community in the most amazing way I can think of.
I salute your bravery, your commitment and your expertise. Our communities are better places because you live, work and volunteer here.
Consider this a long distance hug from a very grateful community member.
-Heather

You never know where these people are working on their plans, our area is as we know very accessibly to the greater city area and the city itself so like aforementioned keep this in the back of your head for now guys.

Date:09.06.11
Time: 2338hrs
Location: 36 Debra Court. X Street: Haviland Road
Frequency: Dispatch, Response, Command 3
Units Operating: Roosevelt Stations 3, 2, 1, Mobile Life with an ALS Unit, Fairview, Hyde Park, Staatsburg, Pleasant Valley
Weather Conditions: Rain, Upper 50's
Description Of Incident: Reported Trailer Fire in the Haviland Trailer Park, original dispatch stated possible persons still inside the trailer.
Reporters:
Writer: FiftyOnePride
2338hrs: First Dispatch, Persons Possibly Still Inside
2341hrs: Mobile Life with an ALS unit to assist
2342hrs: Possible transmission that all persons are accounted for (Did not copy identifier on progress report).
2345hrs: Second Alarm of Fire - Fairview One Engine Under M.A., Hyde Park One Engine .M.A., Staatsburg 64-12 to relocated to Station 3, Pleasant Valley 56-11to relocate to Station 2
2352hrs: Fire K.D., equipment coming in can hold.
2356hrs: 2nd Dispatch for Pleasant Valley 56-11 to relocate. Engine is driver awaiting a crew.
0001hrs: Dutchess County Fire Investigation Division to Respond
0005hrs: Command Requesting Fire Inspector to the Scene
0017hrs: Second Dispatch for FID.

Date:09.06.11
Time: 2338hrs
Location: 36 Debra Court. X Street: Haviland Road
Frequency: Dispatch, Response, Command 3
Units Operating: Roosevelt Stations 3, 2, 1, Mobile Life with an ALS Unit, Fairview, Hyde Park, Staatsburg, Pleasant Valley
Weather Conditions: Rain, Upper 50's
Description Of Incident: Reported Trailer Fire in the Haviland Trailer Park, original dispatch stated possible persons still inside the trailer.
Reporters:
Writer: FiftyOnePride
2338hrs: First Dispatch, Persons Possibly Still Inside
2341hrs: Mobile Life with an ALS unit to assist
2342hrs: Possible transmission that all persons are accounted for (Did not copy identifier on progress report).
2345hrs: Second Alarm of Fire - Fairview One Engine Under M.A., Hyde Park One Engine .M.A., Staatsburg 64-12 to relocated to Station 3, Pleasant Valley 56-11to relocate to Station 2
2352hrs: Fire K.D., equipment coming in can hold.
2356hrs: 2nd Dispatch for Pleasant Valley 56-11 to relocate. Engine is driver awaiting a crew.
0001hrs: Dutchess County Fire Investigation Division to Respond
0005hrs: Command Requesting Fire Inspector to the Scene
0017hrs: Second Dispatch for FID.

Date:09.06.11
Time: 2338hrs
Location: 36 Debra Court. X Street: Haviland Road
Frequency: Dispatch, Response, Command 3
Units Operating: Roosevelt Stations 3, 2, 1, Mobile Life with an ALS Unit, Fairview, Hyde Park, Staatsburg, Pleasant Valley
Weather Conditions: Rain, Upper 50's
Description Of Incident: Reported Trailer Fire in the Haviland Trailer Park, original dispatch stated possible persons still inside the trailer.
Reporters:
Writer: FiftyOnePride
2338hrs: First Dispatch, Persons Possibly Still Inside
2341hrs: Mobile Life with an ALS unit to assist
2342hrs: Possible transmission that all persons are accounted for (Did not copy identifier on progress report).
2345hrs: Second Alarm of Fire - Fairview One Engine Under M.A., Hyde Park One Engine .M.A., Staatsburg 64-12 to relocated to Station 3, Pleasant Valley 56-11to relocate to Station 2
2352hrs: Fire K.D., equipment coming in can hold.
2356hrs: 2nd Dispatch for Pleasant Valley 56-11 to relocate. Engine is driver awaiting a crew.
0001hrs: Dutchess County Fire Investigation Division to Respond
0005hrs: Command Requesting Fire Inspector to the Scene
0017hrs: Second Dispatch for FID.

Date:09.06.11
Time: 2338hrs
Location: 36 Debra Court. X Street: Haviland Road
Frequency: Dispatch, Response, Command 3
Units Operating: Roosevelt Stations 3, 2, 1, Mobile Life with an ALS Unit, Fairview, Hyde Park, Staatsburg, Pleasant Valley
Weather Conditions: Rain, Upper 50's
Description Of Incident: Reported Trailer Fire in the Haviland Trailer Park, original dispatch stated possible persons still inside the trailer.
Reporters:
Writer: FiftyOnePride
2338hrs: First Dispatch, Persons Possibly Still Inside
2341hrs: Mobile Life with an ALS unit to assist
2342hrs: Possible transmission that all persons are accounted for (Did not copy identifier on progress report).
2345hrs: Second Alarm of Fire - Fairview One Engine Under M.A., Hyde Park One Engine .M.A., Staatsburg 64-12 to relocated to Station 3, Pleasant Valley 56-11to relocate to Station 2
2352hrs: Fire K.D., equipment coming in can hold.
2356hrs: 2nd Dispatch for Pleasant Valley 56-11 to relocate. Engine is driver awaiting a crew.
0001hrs: Dutchess County Fire Investigation Division to Respond
0005hrs: Command Requesting Fire Inspector to the Scene
0017hrs: Second Dispatch for FID.

Well this is truly amazing. According to lohud, over 60 police units had to respond from as far south as Tuckahoe to deal with this unreasonable and unruly crowd. Why? Because their "muslim sensibilities" were insulted? Give me a freakin' break. The rules are posted and for certain rides, there is to be NO WEARING OF ANY TYPE OF HEADGEAR period.
Why do these people think they are exempt from the rules, the laws? I know what they would like; Sharia Law. Their own version of a justice system implemented in the countries they emigrate to. I think that is a disgusting disgrace, as were the actions of these supposedly "religious" people at the Playland park.
Look, you people want to assimilate in this country, fine. I guess we have to let some of you in. But if you don't like the system, the rules in place... TOO F'IN BAD, go back to the place you came from.
The difference between these people and the ancestors of many of us here in this forum is our great-grandparents had a huge desire to assimilate into the American culture. That's why on my mother's side, they came from Italy, moved into the south Bronx and gave up teaching their native language to their children, my mother, and therefore I don't know Italian today as a result. I wish that part were different, but the point being these people were so anxious to "fit in" they even gave up their language. Italian was forbidden to be spoken in the house by my great-grandparents, as a result their great-grandchildren only speak English.
Now these muslims with their headgear, the hijab, they can't even get on the Dragon Coaster without starting a ruckus? Like Playland OWES them something, like WE owe them anything? They should kiss the ground of freedom they walk upon, shut their damn mouths, follow the rules, or else.
What a waste of PD resources to have to direct half the cars on patrol up to Playland because these freaking people were "insulted"! Enough! Fit in or GET OUT!
http://www.lohud.com/article/20110830/NEWS02/110830004/Police-arrest-15-Playland-dispute-over-Muslim-headwear?odyssey=nav|head

As the Second Asst. Chief of the Millerton Fire Company, we would like to thank all the fire companies that were involved in the mitigation of today's incident whether it was standby duty at another firehouse or directly involved in the actual extrication. So a big thanks to the Amenia, Wassaic, Stanford, Millbrook, Dover, and Lakeville fire companies. Also a tip of the lid to CC-14, CC-16, DCSO, NYSP, and the cattle farmers who were there to assist with the cows: all provided invaluable assistance.
This was a particularly tough extrication all around, because not only was it an auto accident with entrapment but it also basically a simpler man in the machine type scenario, the two fused together to make one interesting call. I was first on scene and was able to take it all in before the organized chaos ensued. A flatbed truck driven straight underneath 5-tons of machinery. All the stability was taken away from the hopper and transferred to the building and the vehicle itself. The driver was encapsulated basically but unharmed. Literally just in his seat, no way to move one way or the other. As you can imagine by the photos stabilization was the biggest issue which is why a multitude of rescues were brought in, for their cribbing alone, but also for air bags and the other specialty equipment they could provide. Once that was accomplished the actual extrication was easy. As you can tell in the photo slide we removed a back rack and the rear part of the passengers cab and the driver was able to self extricate basically from that point.
All involved stated that this was one that you could not really train for, and despite its many challenges I can say that I am proud of the outcome and way in which the incident was mitigated.

We stripped all struts, air bags, and cribbing from the rescues of Millerton, Amenia, Wassaic, and Stanford. We had Millbrook en route but realized we were in a good point before they arrived.
Pallets were a small part of the cribbing at first due to the lack of anything else. They did wind up playing a small roll however.

We stripped all struts, air bags, and cribbing from the rescues of Millerton, Amenia, Wassaic, and Stanford. We had Millbrook en route but realized we were in a good point before they arrived.
Pallets were a small part of the cribbing at first due to the lack of anything else. They did wind up playing a small roll however.

Thank you Seth for posting about the anti-negativity campaign. I am going to refrain from commenting on what has transpired on this thread since the last time I was one to read it because Mark went against his better judgment to post these pictures on here so we could talk about a unique scenario (thanks Mark), and someone had to mount the QB chair this fine Monday to pick apart PT issues. The Medics and EMS personnel on scene have enough crust on their EMS gear for me to trust whatever treatment they executed, and that is the bottom line. The pictures give no one enough basis for any claims otherwise.
I want to again thank those who were there or involved in any way shape or form, a late thanks to the Medivac crew who was on standby for a portion of the call. And a big thank you to those who have contributed positively and constructively to this thread.

Thank you Seth for posting about the anti-negativity campaign. I am going to refrain from commenting on what has transpired on this thread since the last time I was one to read it because Mark went against his better judgment to post these pictures on here so we could talk about a unique scenario (thanks Mark), and someone had to mount the QB chair this fine Monday to pick apart PT issues. The Medics and EMS personnel on scene have enough crust on their EMS gear for me to trust whatever treatment they executed, and that is the bottom line. The pictures give no one enough basis for any claims otherwise.
I want to again thank those who were there or involved in any way shape or form, a late thanks to the Medivac crew who was on standby for a portion of the call. And a big thank you to those who have contributed positively and constructively to this thread.

I really dont know why so many are getting worked up over this...
Three pages and not a single bash or criticism of the work done by the several fire departments on scene. A unique challenge met head on resulting in a positive outcome. Really only one voice questioning anything..which has to be a record! LOL
Everything from scene management, adequate manpower, a surplus of tools and equipment, etc..everything spot on. This was an incident that we all can learn from, thanks in part to Mark's pics and 2ndAC Schultz' narrative..I know that I learned something from this thread.
I can also see the the validity of the questioning of the treatment...I agree with ALS treatment on this patient, but that is one of the troubles with commercial EMS...you never know who you're gonna get. Yes, it all worked out in the end, but I beleive an aggressive medic would have opted to treat differently...I know I would.
Again - awesome job Battalion 4 guys....seriously STRONG WORK...Dont let the few negative voices keep you from sharing your information, pictures, and opinions.

Thank you Seth for posting about the anti-negativity campaign. I am going to refrain from commenting on what has transpired on this thread since the last time I was one to read it because Mark went against his better judgment to post these pictures on here so we could talk about a unique scenario (thanks Mark), and someone had to mount the QB chair this fine Monday to pick apart PT issues. The Medics and EMS personnel on scene have enough crust on their EMS gear for me to trust whatever treatment they executed, and that is the bottom line. The pictures give no one enough basis for any claims otherwise.
I want to again thank those who were there or involved in any way shape or form, a late thanks to the Medivac crew who was on standby for a portion of the call. And a big thank you to those who have contributed positively and constructively to this thread.

Thank you Seth for posting about the anti-negativity campaign. I am going to refrain from commenting on what has transpired on this thread since the last time I was one to read it because Mark went against his better judgment to post these pictures on here so we could talk about a unique scenario (thanks Mark), and someone had to mount the QB chair this fine Monday to pick apart PT issues. The Medics and EMS personnel on scene have enough crust on their EMS gear for me to trust whatever treatment they executed, and that is the bottom line. The pictures give no one enough basis for any claims otherwise.
I want to again thank those who were there or involved in any way shape or form, a late thanks to the Medivac crew who was on standby for a portion of the call. And a big thank you to those who have contributed positively and constructively to this thread.

As the Second Asst. Chief of the Millerton Fire Company, we would like to thank all the fire companies that were involved in the mitigation of today's incident whether it was standby duty at another firehouse or directly involved in the actual extrication. So a big thanks to the Amenia, Wassaic, Stanford, Millbrook, Dover, and Lakeville fire companies. Also a tip of the lid to CC-14, CC-16, DCSO, NYSP, and the cattle farmers who were there to assist with the cows: all provided invaluable assistance.
This was a particularly tough extrication all around, because not only was it an auto accident with entrapment but it also basically a simpler man in the machine type scenario, the two fused together to make one interesting call. I was first on scene and was able to take it all in before the organized chaos ensued. A flatbed truck driven straight underneath 5-tons of machinery. All the stability was taken away from the hopper and transferred to the building and the vehicle itself. The driver was encapsulated basically but unharmed. Literally just in his seat, no way to move one way or the other. As you can imagine by the photos stabilization was the biggest issue which is why a multitude of rescues were brought in, for their cribbing alone, but also for air bags and the other specialty equipment they could provide. Once that was accomplished the actual extrication was easy. As you can tell in the photo slide we removed a back rack and the rear part of the passengers cab and the driver was able to self extricate basically from that point.
All involved stated that this was one that you could not really train for, and despite its many challenges I can say that I am proud of the outcome and way in which the incident was mitigated.

Thank you Seth for posting about the anti-negativity campaign. I am going to refrain from commenting on what has transpired on this thread since the last time I was one to read it because Mark went against his better judgment to post these pictures on here so we could talk about a unique scenario (thanks Mark), and someone had to mount the QB chair this fine Monday to pick apart PT issues. The Medics and EMS personnel on scene have enough crust on their EMS gear for me to trust whatever treatment they executed, and that is the bottom line. The pictures give no one enough basis for any claims otherwise.
I want to again thank those who were there or involved in any way shape or form, a late thanks to the Medivac crew who was on standby for a portion of the call. And a big thank you to those who have contributed positively and constructively to this thread.

Thank you Seth for posting about the anti-negativity campaign. I am going to refrain from commenting on what has transpired on this thread since the last time I was one to read it because Mark went against his better judgment to post these pictures on here so we could talk about a unique scenario (thanks Mark), and someone had to mount the QB chair this fine Monday to pick apart PT issues. The Medics and EMS personnel on scene have enough crust on their EMS gear for me to trust whatever treatment they executed, and that is the bottom line. The pictures give no one enough basis for any claims otherwise.
I want to again thank those who were there or involved in any way shape or form, a late thanks to the Medivac crew who was on standby for a portion of the call. And a big thank you to those who have contributed positively and constructively to this thread.

Of course, they are the unsung helpers in a lot of cases.

As the Second Asst. Chief of the Millerton Fire Company, we would like to thank all the fire companies that were involved in the mitigation of today's incident whether it was standby duty at another firehouse or directly involved in the actual extrication. So a big thanks to the Amenia, Wassaic, Stanford, Millbrook, Dover, and Lakeville fire companies. Also a tip of the lid to CC-14, CC-16, DCSO, NYSP, and the cattle farmers who were there to assist with the cows: all provided invaluable assistance.
This was a particularly tough extrication all around, because not only was it an auto accident with entrapment but it also basically a simpler man in the machine type scenario, the two fused together to make one interesting call. I was first on scene and was able to take it all in before the organized chaos ensued. A flatbed truck driven straight underneath 5-tons of machinery. All the stability was taken away from the hopper and transferred to the building and the vehicle itself. The driver was encapsulated basically but unharmed. Literally just in his seat, no way to move one way or the other. As you can imagine by the photos stabilization was the biggest issue which is why a multitude of rescues were brought in, for their cribbing alone, but also for air bags and the other specialty equipment they could provide. Once that was accomplished the actual extrication was easy. As you can tell in the photo slide we removed a back rack and the rear part of the passengers cab and the driver was able to self extricate basically from that point.
All involved stated that this was one that you could not really train for, and despite its many challenges I can say that I am proud of the outcome and way in which the incident was mitigated.