tbendick

1- why wouldn't a pumper shuttle work...if the fire WAS put out with only 500 gal. then if another pumper came down the same road and emptied it's 500 into the first that would be 1000gal. and that would have worked and done it with a LOT less hose and work.... The path down to the fire area (#5) was rather small and only dirt. If a tanker shuttle was attempted it would have been hard to bring units in and out. Might have been able to do it at the end of the access road (#4) but still hard. 2- Why not drop an inflatable by the (#1) with a floating pump or trash pump and bring it around to the area near the fire and hook up hose brought in on a pickup/suburban/utility etc. Now this is a interesting thought. You could see the fire from the Hydrant (#1). However when you went up the access road and trail you didn't see it until you were on top of it. So this distance was much shorter then the roads. They did try to bring in Marine 6 but it was low tide.

As requested by Truck 4. Weather Conditions reported at the time of the fire. Partly Cloudy Winds From SW @ 10mph Press 30.21 Visib 10.0 miles Humid 44% Dew Point 35°F Tempature @ 57°F Sunset at 4:41 PM

Second: Did the City Island units respond, or were they confined to the island as is normal practice (am i right in saying that?)? The Truck did respond, the Engine did not. The Engine is not allowed off the City Island. Third: If you go back, see if you can determine exactly what that building is, or what it was used for. It might hold some significant historical value. I will take a look If I go back.. Didn't get a good look at it, Might just have been something for the parks Dept.

This was just brush buring. There was some type of building at the 2500' mark (#4) but down at the fire area it was only brush/trees

OK here we go.. Aerial Photo of the area. 1. Location of the Hydrant near the Entrance to the parking lot. 2. Location of the Relay Engine 3. Location of the 2000gpm Pumper (Engnie 72) 4. Location of the Satelite unit. 5. Location of the Fire Area. From 1 to 3 the distance is aprox 1300 feet (3 1/2 hose) From 3 to 4 the distance is aprox 2500 feet (5" LDH) From 4 to 5 the distance is aprox 1000 feet (3 1/2 hose) I might go back to this site and use the GPS to mark the points I am kinda of interested in the exact distances of this incident. How far into the woods was this fire? Aprox 3500' Could they have maybe set up the engines somewhere along Shore Road and gone in from there? Shore road was on the other side of the water. That would have solved the issue of finding a hydrant to connect to, but dragging all that hose really would have sucked They had the hydrant but the lenght of the hose stretch was nuts. This looks like a good use for the new hydraulic pump i wrote about in another thread. Don't think this would have worked. They would have had to carry it in the woods to the water. Either a special Unit designed for long lays of LDH This was used for the 2500' of 5" Multiple engines doing a water shuttle. Doesnt sound like there was much room for water shuttles tho so i would go with the LDH. Room was limited but could a water shuttle be done with pumpers that carry a max amount of 500gal of water?

Use the Audio output of your scanner and go into the Line in on your PC. Make sure you wires match up, or you might get hums or no audio at all.. Then use a program like VOX Recorder.

I was unable to get a photo, The bays are kind of small. Once it hits the road or I can get it outside I send it over.. It looks to be a Pl Custom 100 or something like that.. It's a bit bigger then what is in service now, but it's not huge.

West Harrison Photos some photos posted.. Sorry nothing great, had a Crash of my main camera. Was using the backup... Also note there was one Dog DOA.

Date: 11/9/04 Time: 1307 hrs Location: 33 North Street Near Park Place Units: Car 2212, Discription: Writer: tbendick 13:07 Car 2212 reports 10-75 Bedford Hills Fast Team to scene 13:19 Goldens Bridge 1 Engine to stanby in Katonah 13:20 Bn 16 rpts 20x25 wood Frame fire on 1st and 2nd floor D/W/H 13:30 Primary Search Neg. Main Body of Fire K/D 13:30 Fire Under Control

If a FDNY member comes forward and requests help for a drug problem, they will not be fired. FDNY will send them for help. If I remember right in the past if you tested postive then they sent you for help. Now they no longer send you. It's the guy who continues to work and try and hide it placing everyone at risk.

You can also use NYC's map program on the internet. http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/mp/Map.do You put in any address and it will show the area. You can then click on fire to show firehouses. You can then zoom out and show more of the city. List address also

I think alot of this comes down to common sense. Is there a need to have a photo of an unmarked unit? I don't think so. Also note that there is a diffrence between Unmarked and Undercover. Most of us can spot an unmarked car a mile away, however a undercover car is something else. And a side note this isn't the first time I have heard people saying that they are taking photos for "XYZ". If you plan on sending photos to Emtbravo that doesn't mean you are taking photos for EMTBravo. Same as if you were going to post them on the Code 3 Board, you aren't taking them for Code 3.

They also had alot up on Saw Mill River Rd with a sign like that. Same thing a bunch of old cars.. Never ever saw any FD units at the location, I think the signs are no longer there, I will have to take a look.

http://www.nycfire.net/gallery/album103 Photos are up.

First Shared-use firehouse BY WILLIAM MURPHY STAFF WRITER October 20, 2004 Ambulances and fire engines will work out of the same facility for the first time from a new firehouse that is opening today in the Rockaways. The joint use of the firehouse on Beach 49th Street near Edgemere is a milestone for the Fire Department's plan to integrate its ambulance and fire services, but has caused dissatisfaction among firefighters and ambulance crews accustomed to working in their own, tight-knit groups. The fire units will start work today, but the ambulances will be phased in over time, department and union officials said yesterday. About a dozen firefighters and Emergency Medical Service workers would be stationed at the house at any given time. Frank Gribbon, a Fire Department spokesman, said department officials and unions involved have had several meetings to iron out workplace rules and other issues between firefighters and EMS paramedics. "These are all reasonable people who have met several times to talk about their concerns," he said. "We believe it will work out. These are good, professional employees who have a shared goal - to work for the people in the community." Some of the concerns include who would ultimately be in charge of the firehouse dealing with issues of supplies and repairs. Others look simpler to an outsider, but are complex and emotional for firefighters used to their own way of doing things, several firefighters said. Each firehouse has a commissary fund, for example, and food and other household items are purchased from that. "What about the commissary fund?" said one firefighter who asked not to be identified. "If you don't pay into the fund, you can't even use the salt and pepper off the kitchen table." Stephen Humenesky, the Queens trustee of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, said he expected to spend the next few days at the firehouse to help solve any problems. Patrick Bahnken, president of the EMS Local 2507, said there was the possibility of run-ins between the two services, "but I hope mature heads will prevail and a lot of people will be watching this closely. If it doesn't work, it won't be the fault of this union." The Fire Department said it saved more than $4 million by building a single facility, which cost $9.2 million. The firefighters, assigned to Engine Company 265 and Ladder Company 121, are being moved out of their dilapidated quarters on Beach 72nd Street. The ambulance crews are now working in their own rundown facility nearby. Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.

It will be just like all the other FDNY EMS stations..

DFFD227. I think what most people would love to see is less PSAPs. So when you call 911 you goto the Dispatch center which is the same location as the Dispatcher. Most small PD's that do Fire or EMS Dispatch don't dedicate people to this function as well most don't have EMD.. I would love to see NYS pass the same laws as CT to require EMD. Also how many PD's would consider adding EMS or Fire to the CAD systems and MDT systems for better tracking. With 60-Control who has a common goal the more people on-line the more we can do.. Maybe after the new Radio System goes on-line sometime in the next 10 years people might see how it works. And then maybe 60-Control can grow to the Central Dispatch Center that it should be. Last thought.. If you Fire or EMS agency wants to be Dispatch by someone other then 60 then you should get off 46.26 and other county wide freqs..

Rescue 6 has been placed in service as of 1800hrs. Will be at Ladder 20. Response area south of 23rd street and 2nd due for Rescue 1's boxes. Not a SCUBA Unit.

Photos at http://www.nycfire.net/gallery/album100

With the new Chief of Deparment getting into the swing of things changes are underway. EMS has been changed around, no longer 6 Divisions now just five . Each EMS Division is now reporting to the Fire Boro Commander. SOC Battalion "Special Operations Battalion" is no longer.. A New "Rescue Operations Battalion" will become effective 9/20/2004. Also in this weeks chief. He made comments that in the future he sees "Firefighter/EMTs" and "Firefighter/Paramedics" along with increased pay for these postions. Doesn't mention FF's on Ambulances. Well lots of things going on so keep a close eye on things.

The two FDNY Subway Repeaters have been placed live south of 59street in Manhattan. Anyone who was monitoring this freqs might have been hearing RNC stuff on them during the convention. However there are no setup in 48 Zones. Each zone is independent of the other and covers about one station. Members in the subway can travel from one zone to another and not have contact with members in the first zone. The use of the Post radio from street level will cover more then one zone because of it's power. So the IC should be able to maintain contact with more then one zone. The thing to note is that these are low power repeater setups and you won't hear them unless you are near by.

Some more changes. FDNY adding 10 new FDNY ALS tours, don't know about and BLS tours being cut. They are making the Rockaway Medics 24hr units. Adding Medic units in Queens, Bronx and Manhattan. Manhattan will see it's first ALS unit in the Downtown area assigned to EMS Bn 4 and will cover the 4th Battalion (04X). This is the First City Medic unit in this area. FDNY will be working on expanding ALS coverage in the City.

http://www.scanstamford.com/channel4/ FROM Scanstamford.com

From what I can figure out is that it was a mistake by the papers. Currently FDNY is increasing the Haz-Tac program. There is no incentive for anyone to go and get the training. In the past many EMT's or Medics would sign up with the hopes of getting a spot in ERS or on the USAR team. After the loss of ERS people were no longer interested. If you did sign up chances would be that you ended up with the worse spot. So if you were happy then there was no interest in going to school.

My thoughts on this is as follows Old way: SOC Bn Marine Bn Hazmat BN New Way Rescue Bn Marine Bn Hazmat Bn Maybe in the future SOC Division Chief on Duty over the Bn's