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One thing they do is frequently annouce they are going to protest notable funerals. Another thing they frequently do is not show up.

The Precinct nickname will be "Fort Swingline"!

The new Station House looks like a stapler. A Precinct can be commanded by a Captain or a Deputy Inspector. If the Precinct is commanded by a Captain, there can be a second captain assigned to the command, the first one would be designated as the Commanding Officer and would be the head. The second one would be designated the Executive officer, the number 2 guy. If the precinct is commanded by a D.I., the X.O. would still be a Captain. Usually, the busier houses are commanded by a D.I. Sometimes, the C.O. will start out as a Captain, but after a while, be promoted to D.I. There have been a few incidents where a precinct has been commanded by a full bird Inspector. New Precincts are rare, since I went on in 1981, the only new precincts to open were the 49 Precinct in 1985, the 115 in 1989 (approximate), the 33 in 1994 and now the 121 in 2013. I think this brings the number of Precincts up to 77. In addition, there are 12 Transit Police Districts and 9 Housing Police Service Areas.

Generally, it would be illegal to run an e-justice check on an individual without an accompanying criminal investigation. E-justice is, primarily, a Police investigator's tool. If there are any Volley Departments out there that happen to have a Police Officer in their ranks who is doing the background checks for the Volley department should take a second look at what they are doing. The best way to avoid a problem is to do what most private companies do, hire a reputable Private Investigator to do the check.

I say fine the repeat offenders. How often does an alarm come in and it actually turns out to be a fire or a robbery/burglar or something that actually requires a Police or Fire response? A very small percentage of the time, probably a miniscule percentage. In my 36 years of Police/Fire experience, the number of actual emergencies that were reported solely by alarm is astonishingly small. Some of the repeat offenders should have the service disconnected. As far as the issue with the Group Homes that Firemoose827 touched on, the answer to that problem is: Hire more staff. No one wants to hear about it, but the correct answer to that problem is a very simple solution, hire staff to watch the residents properly. The failings in staffing should not become a emergency response issue. Will anyone in a position of responsibility care about solving the actual issue? I do not think I have to answer that question.

I tried to register, but it tells me I cannot register unless I am invited by an existing member of the community.

I'm in!

For the rest of his career, every time he transmits over the radio, someone will put over a "meow"!

It probably is a pizzing match that has more to do with the fact that he was not a Boston FF that went through the ranks. He was an outsider that was brought in as Chief several years ago.

I heard the perimeter was 20 blocks. I heard he was found 2 blocks outside of the perimeter. It is important to start big, but it is a huge undertaking. Even for larger departments, it is not easy. I have worked for the NYPD for over 20 years and locking down an area is not quick, and not easy. I have never locked down and searched an area that big, but even with smaller areas, it is slow and there are going to be holes in it, especially in the beginning phases, no matter what you do. If the perp runs away and hides a block or two away, cordoning off the area will usually work fairly well. If he does not hunker down immediately and keeps moving, figure every minute or two he is another block or so away, the area to search quickly expands to an unwieldy area.

I knew one guy in NYPD who was denied his wedding day off, but as with so many stories, there was, of course, more to the story. This guy had made his wedding plans and arrangements, but did not put in for the two weeks off until TWO WEEKS before the wedding. He ended up getting the time off, but he should haved used a bit of common sense and made it a vacation pick and avoided the drama. He was not one of the brighter guys I worked with. I am sure the same is true with this incident, there must be more to the story. I doubt the Ramapo Police are saying no just to say no. This sounds like there is some background drama attached to it. In a related note, the Ramapo Police had an issue several years ago when one of their members was arrested in NJ. I forget the details of the arrest, but the interesting part of the story was that the officer had been on sick leave for 18 years, yes, eighteen years!

The elevator key is also in the possesion of every elevator mechanic, and probably 3/4 of the supers and maintainance men of any apartment building or commercial bldg that has elevators. As far as the security of the elevator key goes, that cat has been out of the bag for a very long time.

I know more than 1 guy with that "hell bent' attitude towards responding to calls. I can even recall a few years ago, I was involved in a converstion with a Vol. FF from Long Island who told me he does not use blue lights on his POV because sometimes he drives a "bit crazy" (his words-not mine) while responding and would not want the public to know who he was affiliated with. When you are dealing with a mind set like that, training is not going to correct it. The problem is a lack of common sense. If anyone here could devise a way to teach common sense, they would be a very rich man.

That may be true, but the RMP in the picture has no riser lights, and the RMP # looks like it is 2518 (possibly 2519), Highway RMP's are numbered in 2800-2999 series, so I doubt this was a Highway RMP. I agree with you Bronxfireradio, it does look like "Dodge" atop the grill.

The two Green/White/Black rmp's have what appear to be regular NYS plates on them. Are you sure these are department owned?

The green/black/white Plymouth is a '68 Fury. The blue/white Diplomat is probably a Plymouth Gran Fury, the NYPD did not use the Dodge Diplomat as marked RMP's.

I also think they would still be working, but I think that any union sponsored benefits, such as health, any Union sponsored annuities and so on, would be suspended. Any benefits paid for by the municipality would remain in effect. If any union delegates or board members are on, maybe they can elaborate.

Copied from the article: "One source said a few of the cops swam the 300 years to shore, navigating heavy currents in the 40-foot waters. Some of the other officers and two civilian trainers aboard scrambled to safety in rafts, while the rest were fished out by the FDNY Marine Unit, law-enforcement sources and witnesses said." 300 years to shore...that sounds like some swim!!!!!

As ridiculous as it sounds and regardless of unanswered questions, I am sure there are more than a few that will eagerly sign up, pay-up and show up to do it. I think their exploits will hit the internet as soon as they finish their tour and can download the photo's and video. A sad commentary I think, but I think if this idea fails, it will not be due to the lack of participants.

20 years ago or so this was not an issue. But it is not 20 years ago, it is 2012. It does not matter who owns the bldg's, rigs, or if you are volunteer or paid, if something happens, someone is being held responsible and is going to get sued. The only issue here is liability. If something happens, and it does not matter what happens nowadays, and someone involved has been drinking, the overhead agency, municipaity or corporation will find itself in an indefensible position. Any responsible manager, public, private or volunteer, is going to try and protect themselves against an incident before it happens. Once it happens, you then become the story.

I was thinking something looked odd about the photo and yes, the tires look odd, but besides the tires, the photo appears a bit "off". Photoshopped possibly?

I can see that some posters have not dealt with them. They are asking questions regarding NYS VTL law, Commissioners authority, dispatching and so on. Any legit group would never cause problems with those issues, everyone else, (except maybe Aviation FD), understands them,. These groups operate outside any of those guidelines. The rules do not apply to them. Rules are an afterthought.. Lights ans sirens, how many POV with light packages respond across the GWB and TZB in heavy traffic? I am sure if you sat there long enough you would see the same vehicles at the same time of day each day. If you have ever had to work with them, you would notice they act as if you are not there, even though you are standing next to them. It is as if they are operating in a different dimension. Coordinate with an IC or a dispatcher? No way, they do not tell anyone they are responding, they just show up and do not check in. I have not dealt with them in a number of years, but I will assume not much has changed.

You used the term "follows these guidelines". I think that this group missed that lesson plan during training. I think I can safely say that the only guidelines they follow are thier own guidelines. Anyone familiar with them will probably say the same. Dealing with this group, regardless if it is in an emergency service type incident or not, is an eye-opening experience.

One poster stated the tickets were dismissed. I wonder; were the tickets dismissed because they were issued in error? I doubt it, they were probably dismissed because because politics got involved. Anyone who has ever dealt with them knows what a difficult group they are to deal with. The do not know how to get along with outside agencies and will not listen to any outside agency. To anyone who has dealt with them, this is a familiar story.