I can't agree more. This chief should consider turning in his trumpets! He needs to get his head out of the sand. Burning firefighters should never be considered just part of the job, let alone during training. He is also confused, "if a fireman is on the department and doesn't get burned, he isn't doing his job" news flash Chief Gorrell he is doing a great job! A quote from Chief Alan Burnacini said it all, "for 200 years we have been providing a service at the expense of those providing the service" Unfortunately with chiefs thinking like Gorrell, this we will continue for the next 200 years.