ny10570

Read between the lines bro. He is a career ff asking a frigging no brainer. You'd be criminally negligent to deny a needed resource because of volley/paid BS. Traditionally these type of hypothetical questions are posted so the person can come around and point out that "everyone" agrees this wrong behavior yet when "someone" does this at xyz incident no one says a thing. I hope this is clear. I believe he was trying to and successfully got the members of the board to make his point so that when he comes back with the real incident he can "see the volleys are wrong" He may be right, but his method is condescending and immature. One last question, where in Westchester is there a career dept without a dive team next to volley dept with a dive team?

ZeerR, stop me if I'm going too far, but it seems like there may be an actual incident in which a volunteer dept refused mutual aid from a paid dept with a rescue. Either way its wrong. There's no need to try and bait people into a career/volley fight. if I'm wrong, I'm sorry and I rescind this post.

Thats right, there's a perfectly acceptable $400 CO meter that magically monitors CO from across the room and a $2000 or $2500 monitor out there that is just as capable as the LifePak. Thats a ridiculous comparison. If there are better ways to serve your community then thats where the money needs to be spent. From what I've seen, one the biggest differences between Westchester volleys and most paid areas is the reliance on stretchers. Everyone gets a stretcher and the damn thing is taken everywhere. Really want to save your back, walk the patients that don't need to be carried. I can't imagine going back to carrying someone with a broken wrist. If the patient does need to be carried, use the stair chair. Fully loaded it costs 1/5th of what the powered stretcher does and it is 1/4 of the weight.

They've been delivered in some form or another since October. After some significant issues were found they were sent back to the dealer and have again returned to Maspeth. If they are found be acceptable this time then we'll get em on the streets one of these days. Along with the new HazTac and Rescue buses we're getting the newest generation of war wagons. The new haztac and rescue buses are 450 chassis with requisite airbag suspension to facilitate loading height compliance. The biggest difference as Seth has pointed out is the new through the box compartment immediately behind the cab. I believe its a 30" compartment that now cuts off the box from the cab. The rumor is there is an intercom now between the front and back. The extra compartment has also necessitated a longer wheel base and should give them a turning radius approaching a Seagrave. With Fords stunning history of electrical ingenuity and our fleets history of electrical problems I cringe with each added electrical feature. The airbag suspension will also be an interesting try. Hopefully it holds up. On the upside the new buses will be interesting to see. The new Ford Diesels are allegedly much improved with more power, improved reliability and maybe even a few less electrical gremlins. For photos, you're best bet is Maspeth, Queens.

Any pension changes have to be legislated. The best you can hope for out of contract negotiations is expressed support of the bill from the job or city.

AJ, even without the spots on, there are enough lights on many rigs now where you become invisible standing next to them. The vest and striping on your bunkers should help that, but on such a dark road the drivers eyes have to adjust from pitch black to mid day sun. Were I not so careful about giving cops room to operate at traffic stops I would have killed one this morning. At 5:30 its still dark and he was standing off to the side of his cruiser with the red and blue disco show in full effect. I didn't see him till I would have been on top of him.

FAT Engine

Guys, lets stick to the topic at hand. This is not about getting ff's to go and rehab. The issue is risk benefit comparison between bunkers and 3/4 w/long coat. Rehab is a way to address the issues with encapsulation if you choose to go that route.

http://www.bostonfirelocal718.org/ Local 718 regrets to announce the death of Vice President of Boston Firefighters Local 718 & PFFM Legislative Rep., Brother Robert “Bob” Kilduff, Ladder 23 We will miss him… Brother Kilduff Died in The Line of Duty from Occupational Cancer He accomplished so much for so many All off duty members are to report in front of the Church in Class A uniforms 9:30 am KILDUFF, Robert T. “Bob”of Canton, March 13, 2008, (B.F.D. Lieutenant Ladder Co. 23) beloved husband of Joanne M. (Black) Loving father of Robert, Jr. (B.F.D. Rescue Co. 2) and his wife Robin of West Roxbury, Shannon Kilduff and her fiancé Troy Fickett of Canton, beloved son of the late Vincent Kilduff (Retired B.F.D.) and Leila Kilduff of Milton, brother of Vincent Kilduff and his wife Danielle of San Jose, CA, and Christine Bianculli and her husband Joseph, of Milton. Adoring “Gramps”to Hanna Jane and Mason Patrick Kilduff. Funeral from the William J. Gormley Funeral Home 2055 Centre St. WEST ROXBURY, Wednesday March 19, at 8:30 am, followed by a funeral Mass in the Cathedral of the Holy Cross, 1400 Washington St., Boston at 10 o’clock. Visiting hours Monday and Tuesday 2-8 pm. Relatives and friends invited. Interment Fairview Cemetery, Hyde Park. Vice President Boston Fire Fighters Local 718, IAFF, Legislative Agent, Professional Fire Fighters of Massachusetts. Late Member Boston Fire Fighters Local 718, Boston Fire Fighters Charitable Assn., Boston Fireman’s Relief Assn., Boston Fire Fighters Death and Welfare Fund, Charter Member Boston Gaelic Fire Brigade; Founder Boston Fire Fighters Local 718 Children’s Fund. Veteran United States Navy, Late Member American Legion Post 150 Mechanic Falls, ME. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Boston Fire Fighters Local 718 Children’s Fund, c/o Boston Fire Fighters Credit Union 60 Hallet St., Dorchester, MA 02124. For directions and guestbook www.gormleyfuneral.com

That sign is an independent steel structure that will take a significant amount of heat before it becomes a risk. I wouldn't be worried about it until the entire structure was written off as a loss. Then, it is absolutely included in the collapse zone.

When the electric first started coming around, I thought they sounded amazing. While I haven't used one regularly, I'm glad I haven't had to. If the patient is so heavy that its going to be difficult to lift its also going to be very difficult to hold up while the wheels are raised. I'd just assume save the extra weight of the stretcher.

I don't care if its FDNY, DCFD, or Podunk FD any time you do something you should critique it. In the same light, talking about and critiquing any depts operations for the purpose of learning is an excellent idea. Would this discussion be more appropriate if we had no idea which dept this was? Half the defense is that its DC so they must know what they're doing. FDNY and I'm sure every other fire dept out there has a massive operations manual based mostly on people doing stupid things. Most LODI reports start with several simple small mistakes combined with an unusual event to create a the tragedy. With that being said, while dry suits would definitely have been the preferred equipment the Potomac is not the swift water environment that the gumby suits become dangerous in. Maybe this is an issue of available equipment, these guys only having the ice rescue suits available to them.

Sorry, I wasn't clear before. FD is more than willing to respond. I can't get my dispatchers to send the message over to Fire. EMS still doesn't understand that highways are dangerous.

different situations. What you describe has happened all over the place. A couple of times just to move EMS into the formerly inhospitable house. In this case however the house isn't condemned. I don't know if it makes much of a difference in the end, but it is a significant difference.

Why does the media need to be in front of this families home? The story is about an individual being arrested in connection with a murder. Stake out the court house and jail and they can get all the footage they want. To do this in front of the families house is an invasion of their privacy and implicates them in the suspects activities. My favorite example is the Olympic bombing in Atlanta. Just about everyone in this country can pick the original suspect, Richard Jewel out of line up and most people still think he was responsible. Eric Rudolph got a day or two tops of national media coverage during his 5 years on the run and eventual capture. The media is full of vultures who are too often no better than the criminals they cover. No one deserves to be attacked the way that reporter was, but I'm the last one to step in there and protect these idiots.

The chest pain, depending on how it makes it through the game of telephone you could conceivably get ALS, BLS, and a CFR engine. Unless it went into the system as a Trauma I can't for the life of me figure why you got the the truck and 2 engines. Maybe one or esteemed FDNY dispatchers can answer this. I'll call for FD for a wash down on the highway if I need someone to block and get an engine and a ladder. Occasionally get some complaining too, but so be it. For medical calls I have never gotten FD assigned.

As of right now, its only temporary as per the dept order. But if someone gets a bug up their arse and decides that they can co exist with 20 then who the hell knows.

If I'm lucky we'll get a help truck or RMP in the 5 boroughs. Unless its a wreck there is no way I'm getting FD.

moose, those are the gloves we use at work. While they are infinitely better at not tearing while moving a patient, carry crap, etc they offer no practical improvement in puncture or cut protection. I've been stuck while wearing them and cut them to ribbons on sharp edges.

Its a growing problem that has been making headlines in areas around Chesapeake Bay. The antibiotics and birth control in the water have begun to show up in the fish and shellfish at significant levels.

ECAFD3, you're post implied that insisting on removing PPE before operating fire apparatus was indicative of incompetence. I replied with appropriate respect towards your opinion and explained my position, with an example of my thinking. I'd welcome an explanation as to why removing my jacket first should preclude me from driving. NFPA is tasked with several jobs. One of them is to protect fire fighters from injury and death. The two biggest killers are our fault. Since we won't step up and do a few simple things to save our own lives the NFPA is left to find other ways to try and tackle the issue. NFPA tried to address staffing, 2 in 2 out is one example. As soon as it hit the books depts began finding ways to subvert it. Take packs out of the cab and people insist that seconds matter and they cannot be wasted (this is not directed at you lad45der). Put the DRD into jackets and we get "Why bother, we have packaging methods that only take a few seconds to employ".

Latex gloves offer you almost no cut or stick protection. Unless you have leather gloves, why bother. Check them from the outside first then go into the pocket carefully.

While I have yet to read about any fatalities coming from projectiles within the cab, I have ready several reports that attribute some very significant injuries and near misses to in cab projectiles. Since everything agencies like NFPA and OSHA do is cost benefit based this is a cheap fix for a real problem. Fatal accidents are usually the result of operator error. While speed usually plays a factor, its not because they're going 60 or 70 miles an hour. Its because they go through intersections at 40 mph or catch a soft shoulder on a winding rural road. So should they all be governed at 25 mph? You make the trucks idiot proof and we'll just build a better idiot. I every accident where some survived and others did not the difference I saw was seatbelt use. Air bags are beginning to make their way into fire apparatus. Its not as simple as installing them in cars. There is significantly more area to cover. The first effective solution was found with the side curtain airbags that are finding their way into more and more cars. Ambulances are even further behind because there really hasn't been much attention placed on them. The tools and equipment to safely secure everything in the back of an ambulance is there and has been for a while. The problem is just like the seatbelt issue, getting people to use the tools that are available.

Grow up and drop the ego. One of the biggest features touted by any PPE manufacturer is the range of motion improvements over the previous design. Thats because no matter well its designed, the jackets are bulky and restrict your movement. Dump your jacket in the back or even better in a compartment so you can move freely and react fully in case something happens.

Sadly DOC, yes people need to be forced to secure things in the cab. Radios and their mounts don't fit the requirements, so have the manufacturer deliver w/out radios and we'll mount them ourselves. Many members still don't feel it necessary to buckle up, so we're a little bit behind securing everything in the cab.