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nice reference

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The state is not saying tough luck and kicking him out to the curb. He still gets his disability pension. They just don't have a position for him in his limited capacity. I just don't get why its an issue making a reasonable accommodations position available. Here we have a guy who isn't ready to leave yet and wants to get back on the job. Hell, who would be better to have at the academy in some position training new recruits. Either way you're paying for a trooper to do the job, so why not pay him.

Thats not a particularly long door, but to divide it up would make two fairly small openings as well as put a substantial obstruction in the way.

Stop it. You cannot put this on 9/11. The response is generated for any incoming aircraft emergency. Maybe someone from one those depts involved can explain why there isn't a tiered response.

Thats what the judge believed happened. Bell thought someone was going to shoot him so he attempted to run them over. Once he attempted to run the officers over they opened fire. So what do you think happened?

Airway was cleared shortly after arriving at hospital. No one is exactly sure how long the kid had been choking prior to discovery so to say the crew killed him is severe, but his only chance was the medics who were left standing there. Feel free to trip on down to Throggs Neck. The end of Tremont to Jacobi is 6 or 7 minutes at night. During the day 10 to 15 minutes easy. I'm not speculating this, I did 6 months sitting on Tremont and Waterbury.

How many calls a day are there in Putnam? Is one paid BLS going to be able to pick up all of those calls?

Here's an excellent post that was forwarded to me from another forum... To Whom This May Concern, Your coverage of the Sean Bell incident from beginning to end has been absolutely horrible, irresponsible and criminal. Not only have you chosen to selectively cover bits and pieces in the case, but you have also fanned the flames of racial tensions that are undeniably alive in the City, partially created by your irresponsible and sensational reporting. Sean Bell and his friends were not saints as you make them out to be. They were the scourge of the City. Responsible for countless deaths, violence, and needless addictions against their own people. Their night on the town was not an innocent get together of friends to reminisce on the old times before he made his final commitment to his long time girlfriend. This particular night out was a continuation of his past nights out of fights, drug use, and talk of gunplay. You conveniently forget to mention the past convictions of gun possession, controlled substance sales and the fact that Trent Benefield couldn't even stay out of trouble after this incident, beating his pregnant girlfriend bloody last year. On the other hand, you choose to make villains out of 3 men who have sworn to protect the City and did so without incident or loss to life until that fateful night. You choose to ignore the fact that none of the Cops involved in the shooting were white, including Det. Oliver who is of Lebanese decent, creating innuendo's that because his appearance is white, he's is so in fact white and that racism was in play. Sean Bell was not unarmed that night. He was armed and he used his weapon of choice, a 3200lb Nissan Altima that he struck down a Police Officer with and hit an unmarked Police Van twice. This criminal was not a stranger to the criminal justice system and I have no doubt in my mind that he had his gut feeling that they were Cops that he was about to run over, just as we had a gut feeling that he was up to no good. This was not a tragedy. You can sugarcoat this all you want, but Sean Bells lifestyle, his choices in life, and his choices that night sealed his fate. This is not a tragedy nor is this a unique story. If you choose to live a life of crime, most likely you will die a violent death. The only tragedy here is what 3 detectives had to go through for politcal reaons and yet another african american child is without a father due to his choices in life. This is the true tragedy. As far as the prosecution is concerned, you can try and blame them all you want. The prosecution was poor because there was no case to begin with. You had 3 men politically indicted without regard of the Penal Law in which they clearly did not violate. You had witnesses on the stand that changed their story 3, 4 , and 5 times. You had witness that told stories that contained physical impossibilities. You had witnesses that would do anything it takes to take a cop down with them. You had witnesses that had been paid off by Al Sharpton or given back door deals on pending cases by the DA's office to "cooperate" and testify. You also had witnesses on the stand that got testy and showed their propensity for violent outbursts, even in protected environment such as a Court Room. No, the Judge did not have a hard time reflecting on this case and coming down with a verdict. That's because there was no case. So if I can build a time machine and tell my brothers what will happen if they decide to take focus of their case and try to save a possible homicide from happening in front of their eyes, what would the headlines say the next day? I'll tell you: "Past criminal kills family of 4 in drunken accident after Cops ignore man going to his car in a drunken stuper, focusing on sting operation instead" or "Cops sitting inside club, doing sting operation, ignore talk of gunplay as violence erupts outside , 3 dead, 1 wounded....Where were the Police?" Either way in the eyes of the media, we cannot win. Maybe you should look in the mirror and you will see part of the recruitment and retention problem the NYPD has. Next time you are the victim of a crime, why don't you call Guzman or Benefield for help because according to you, they are the Heros and we are the Villains. If there happens to be violence, besides the ones perpetrating the violence, I will personally hold each and every one of you "reporters" civilly liable if anything happens to me or my relatives for fanning the flames of racial tension by failing to report the truth. On a further note I'd like to personally tell Gabe Pressman to go fvck himself. Go fvck yourself Gabe. SGB

So what should have happened?

I can see the argument against unlimited sick leave. I don't agree with it, but at least those opposing it have a defendable point. To not offer a light duty position is just stupid. Either way you're paying for a trooper to do the work. This is the kind of crap that makes you want to give up and move out into the woods.

To reverend Al, this was absolutely racial. Blue vs Black. http://www.imeem.com/people/RbBTwi/music/-...anthony_rev_al/

Yeah, there are agencies that rarely go mutual aid, but how often do those buses get out in a timely manner. If it takes 15 or 20 minutes to get out on the road then you might as well sent it out mutual aid. If you can get a bus on scene before empire does then you should have no problem transporting your patient. This seems like its there to cover for the agencies that either can't get out or take too long to get out.

I thought it was pretty clear that these detectives had a perceived threat to their life. They were informed that Bell's group was going to get a gun. They see him get into his car and reach for what they thought was a gun so they draw their weapons and approach the vehicle. Now if you were Bell and you see a bunch of guys in street clothing holding guns and you're behind the wheel of a car whats your first reaction? Personally I wouldn't be checking to see if they were cops or not. So he put the car in gear and went after the guys holding guns. At this point the lives of the detectives are at risk so they opened fire. Seemed pretty simple to me. Was 31 shots excessive when all together only 50 were fired maybe, but that wasn't the issue and thats something to be handled internally.

Intercepts can happen but they;re rare and there is no policy or standard set up for them. Usually once you're rolling ALS is canceled because our transport times are so short. Between stopping for the medic, the assessment, and intervention more often than not you'd be in the ER all ready.

Anything in particular learned the first day that helped the second?

I never said there was an injustice. These people believe they have been wronged. They haven't. In my opinion justice was served in this case. Either way, "An injustice perceived is an injustice received." So does it do any good to to have these idiots locked up only to piss off more people? Or is it better to let them vent so long as no action comes from it? In the end, I firmly believe the media is the guilty party here. Someone calling for retaliation against police is not pertinent to the story. People upset by the verdict, fine. But isn't the person intentionally broadcasting these inflammatory statements responsible for them?

Its understandable. That article does a really good job of making it look like the medics were given the big f you at the expense of a child.

The article is as usual twisted. The 'FDNY source' is a POS who took this to the paper with incomplete and misleading info. I'm not suggesting covering up something like this, but at least go with the right story. First and foremost this had absolutely nothing to do with FDNY vs OLM or any other voluntary hospital. That s***t goes away real quick when its serious and especially if a kid is involved. I am very familiar with this incident and truth is someone messed up real bad and made a terrible patient care choice. The medics were left literally standing behind the ambulance because someone didn't know that ALS was that kids only chance of survival. The two EMTs working that ambulance are senior guys, one of whom I would trust any day with one of my relatives no questions asked. Since this is an open forum it would be inappropriate for me to give up all the details but once the truth is hashed out hopefully the full blame will end up where it belongs. Oneeye...the EMS Lt rode in with the crew to the hospital. She is an EMT. "This is a young boy why not just open the friggin doors?" Good question.

Let them vent. The believe they have suffered an great injustice. Until people start acting on their anger and frustrations there no reason to start locking them up. It would only make things worse. Sadly, the biggest threat to civil unrest is the god damn media for airing this crap. They make it look like race riots are a forgone conclusion. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and there will be no significant effects tonight. It'll be bad enough anyways, a gorgeous week always makes for a bloody weekend.

Why the two different volume numbers?

The best and most reliable tools and innovations have always come from the guys doing the job and always will.

Who got skipped? There's going to a preference for depts from the west side of the county only because travel is easier and more efficient north and south rather than east and west.

Wow, I can't believe this thing is going still. I was only trying to point out that in hindsight it would have been better to run the damn 5" down the passenger side of the car instead of having to try and unkink it and reposition it on top of the car. Yes the truck placement was very good considering the obstacles, the guys did a great job protecting the main structure, and most importantly everyone went home. This crap with the hose isn't about the car. We have insurance for that. Its about thinking about where you are going with the hose before you place it. What if the car was full 40yd container. You're not running that hose over the top of that. Run the hose down the curb side and you have the room you need to make the connection. Same goes for every other stretch you make. Can we please now put this stupid car to rest.

Then why don't you post it.