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What Westchester needs to do is figure out away to combine resources so this sort of thing wont happen!

Greenville responding to MV. MV responding to Greenville. Either one doesn't make sense. Who the hell came up with that idea anyway?

Eastchester's TL-17 is dispatched on a 10-75? Even though they're down a truck with a working ariel and I saw something on another thread that they were down to one truck. WOW! Now I see why some of the Eastchester members on here are fed up with whats going on.

Are you saying there was a time when communities got together as a unit and wrote a letter to a particular Town, City , or department and said "they would no longer respond" as far as subsidizing one departments short comings, I.E. Manning? Sounds good in theory, I just don't see it happening around Westchester.

Cogs brought up a good point. When you call for mutual aid your taking away resources from a town or city's taxpayer. Now once in awhile this should not be a problem. But what if becomes too often? Just asking because I know this could be an issue. Then there's the city manager or mayor who thinks he can lower the Departments manning because he can just call mutual aid. Although I'm in full agreement that most if not all fire departments around Westchester start the tour understaffed. I also know this is why consolidation has been studied.

I couldn't agree more with you Breeze. Well said!

Theres not a department around here thats not trying "to make do with less than they should" That goes for all of Westchester. Steve Cassidy will tell you the same thing also. Everybody is in the same boat. I'm sure your aware of that. Although its a good thing that this department is coming to grips with their problems.

Barry, Was this a meeting were fire service leaders are now saying they don't get called to the scene enough? Or don't get called for mutual aid enough? As far as one of the things you mention above, I cant understand how a department is ok with sending a piece of apparatus out of town when it leaves their town or city without coverage or a high percentage of their manning.

When I first got on I was told that " if it gets too hot to take a window" Well that doesn't always work too well. If you take the wrong window you can get somebody killed. Maybe yourself. Taking the wrong window can spread the fire. If your venting from the outside and start taking the wrong windows you can kill somebody inside or spread the fire vertically or horizontally. Anyway its not as simple as saying " if it gets too hot take a window. I've seen the results of what happens and what it turns into. But when done right with some coordination it can save lives and get everybody back to the firehouse sooner and safer. Go to 3min 30 sec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZzQibzeWtY

Delaying sending a call to the proper agency is just asking for trouble. Why anyone would want it to be routine is beyond me. Bad ideas are routine sometimes. Good luck trying to fix it.

Its a Tinker truck.......for tinkering.

How to fight a basement fire? Any ideas?

This is Indiana. What their training standards are I don't know. I would have to say they're lacking in S.O.P's for Basement fires.

Basement fires can be rough, but taking a hoseline through a window down into a basement is unheard of. In the video you can't hear the conversation but you can see the tactic develop as soon as the one guy see's the fire in the basement window. I can't imagine why so many guys don't have turnout gear on, but in other videos by the same guy there is more of the same.

Another article and video interview of the pontiac fire union president http://firegeezer.com/2011/12/29/pontiac-michigan-chooses-to-eliminate-entire-fire-department/

http://www.firehouse.com/news/top-headlines/michigan-fire-department-dissolve-merge-another This should be interesting! It also looks like Pontiac firefighters may get employment from the waterford fire department but the have to re-apply.

It speaks volumes when this guy falls from a second story window and his friends or fellow firefighters laugh at him. Besides this bad idea of bail out training. He's lucky he didn't break something or worse!

New Ro was put to the test last night with what looks like their first working fire without the 3rd truck in service. Will the Mayor be able to say there was no lapse in fire protection for his residents. Will the citizens be made aware that city hall is throwing the dice as far as fire protection in the event of a second call for a structure fire?

Go to 8:45. It shows a very calm,very orientated Deputy Chief assigning tasks and keeping up with any progress. He has an aid that is helping him with who's up next. But the calm he projects is what is key to me. I've seen it the other way and it makes for a interesting job.

Why would a Chief be standing on the cab putting out the fire? Were there no firefighters around? Its tough to run a scene when your operating. I don't think he'll do that again. Con ed told him its ok to stand on the cab and put it out?

If they were would they tell you?

best time to stop by is between noon and 3 or after five, Have fun!

If you're going to buy a used piece of equipment its wise to buy from a volunteer department. Its almost always top notch with little wear or very low miles, or both.

Cog's, If the VFD"s are so concerned with saving the taxpayers money why would they want to sell their firehouses to the taxpayer? Wouldn't the vfd's save the taxpayers money if there was another solution. That is if it ever came to this.