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If the waterfront property is in naples let me know. That land is hard to come by. #veryinterested

E4 is in service everyday. As far as what spares they might of had in addition I can't say.

There are many more things that have to be taken into consideration when it comes to fire protection. Besides size and population you must also take into account Education level and poverty level. These are well connected with the frequency of fires in a given geographic area. Politicians in Westchester and the people with ties to these politicians don't want to in they're mind give up control of there fire department or district. Good idea wrong time or county. Besides Mutual aid seems to be effective enough that the politicians don't see a need for change. It's not like with whatever fires have been happening there has been a lack of response or manpower to these fires. I haven't seen a politician defend him or herself from from the press or public about not having an adequate amount of manning or apparatus. There are many on this site who see a need for a better way, but the Politicians don't see the need. As far as they're concerned everything is working great and the mutual aid system is the most amazing idea ever. QTIP!

What an Original idea

When somebody shows up at a fire in some sort of official capacity in another city or town without being dispatched i don't know what else to call it but "self dispatched" In some cases they're not there because they have personal on scene either.

Somewhere in the rundown of mutual aid units there is probably a county coordinator too? Also many mutual aid Chiefs self dispatch along with the engine or truck they send. Sometimes a safety officer as well.

Union President Gives interview http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/at-least-two-dead-in-early-morning-fire/

Hence, an “active member” of a fire company is a member who participates in firefighting and is subject to call for whatever duties may be assigned to him under the rules and regulations of the fire department or company of which he is a member.

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/ogco2008/rg080410.htm Active membership, those active in providing fire protection

"Fire department affording fire protection" Not just having a certain number of members on a roster

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/faqs/faqs_ft_fft.htm This could help

They shouldn't get any 2% money since they don't provide fire protection. The members of the White Plains fire department are losing out on money for the last 30 years.

Can some tell me the difference between a "structure fire" and a "working structure fire"

The video on youtube where explains how he was trapped and then how he got out is classic. What a jerk!

The volunteers are going against the city charter? I bet these are some of the same guys who used to say last year "We cant do that, its against city charter" They used to be very concerned with what the citizens wanted. I guess those days are over.

"Working structure fire" where does this fit in?

What a waste of time and effort. Pull the ceiling in the garage to get to that space if needed although it looks like nothing was there anyway. Snow on the roof ice on the driveway, An all around bad move. That must of hurt! hope they are ok>>>>Owch!

Who said this roof was going to give? M' ave I'm not talking about all fires or all the time. But I am talking about this fire and when arial's are at such a low angle that climbing them is less than safe. And of course if the roof might be undermined due to fire don't go on it. Or work out of a bucket. Btw working off of a stick to cut a roof is no picnic, with it bouncing and the temptation to side load it. You could throw off its structural integrity. For "this" fire and those like it I'd rather climb a reliable ground ladder 24 to 30 ft up than an arial 40 to 60 ft out. Now were not talking about rescues cause if we are I might do something different but thats another thread.

Is it safer to operate off an arial? It depends on the angle,distance to the roof and the pitch of the roof. I would much rather climb a ground ladder to this particular roof than a arial extended 60-80 feet at a very low angle. Working off a ariel is not always safer. Seeing guys carrying tools while going up a ladder that is extended 50-80 ft at low angles would not be safer in this particular case or similar incidents. But if you don't position an arial in front you have less options from the start. Looks like a good job and a great stop!

Looks like the city is grasping at staws. Waste of more time and the taxpayers money. Will never go anywhere!

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know they were required to carry a EPIRB. Good stuff!

http://www.charterworld.com/index.html?sub=yacht-charter&charter=myblind-date-2481 It says the boat sleeps 10-12 to have 27 S.O.B. doesn't add up to 27 unless they have a crew of 15 which seems like a lot. Might be bogus

Even though the call for a lift assist can come in at the worst time it never fails how the guys show how caring they can be. The person who fell off the toilet or out of bed is always embarrassed but very thankful. Some are as easy as two Guys lifting them up after checking for any injuries. Others will need 4 guys and a back board. Then Help get them dressed, find the remote or move whatever made them fall or arrange things around the apartment or house to prevent this from happening again. At one lift assist we were met in the street by a healthy looking man who said his father had fallen. In the back yard was a elderly male wedged under a picnic table. He was in a wheel chair and was trying to plant tomato plants. Also in the back yard sitting there was his healthy 18yo grandson. One of the guys remarked with a straight face "you must be his Grand daughter" to which the kid who seemed un affected by seeing his grandfather wedged under the table said with a puzzled look "no I'm his grandson!" After getting him up and back in his chair we dug three holes and planted the tomato plants. All the while telling the son and grandson "don't worry we got it" BTW the man who fell out of the wheel chair was a amputee but other than that pretty solid for a 75yo. I think George said it best though!

In this economy where most families and businesses are just getting by how could anyone want to add a fine that starts at 200.00 and goes up to 1000.00 for false alarms. They already pay for fire protection in their taxes. If you find that going on false alarms ruins your morale then find something else to do. Or stay in bed and if it turns out to be a fire then go, I'm sure the homeowner won't mind you waited for the "check and advise" while their house was burning down.

WOW. It looks like some of the drivers are trying to pass cars that are skidding. It looks like others are trying to speed through the skid? Amazing! Sucks to be a bush on that block