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There are only three Ferrara pumpers in front line service right now. 54,26, and 258. they are all High Pressure Pumpers used for the high rise buildings in their respective districts. As for Ferrara getting any bids for more, your guess is as good as mine.

It means that they can respond to a SCUBA incident by themselves without having to special call another SCUBA qualified rescue company on the initial assignment.

You know, flour on the turn outs for misplacing them, shaving cream in the boots, and the bucket I would think would be more of simple, harmless pranks to welcome a person into the fire service as opposed to hazing. It's where you grab someone, tie them to a back board and leave them on it for a few hours or they fall and bust teeth(as was the case in one lawsuit I saw) That is hazing and wrong. It's all about knowing where the line is and what crosses that line.

Ummm if a department actively engages in hazing, do you honestly think anyone would post it here??

Rescue Company order of assignment to E 62 and Madison, 1,4,3,2,5.

Boy, he's an angry soul, ain't he?? Not to mention a horrible speller.

This is another story for another time. But I will leave you with my feeling on this. OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!

This is an ongoing problem. There are a number of reasons. The primary reason is that the computer dispatch system that FDNY uses is a piece of garbage. It is old, and slow, so there is a delay in FDNY getting turned out. Also, ESU has trucks on the road constantly, not parked in houses, so they do get the jump on FDNY. What's the solution?? Get me a computer assisted dispatch system that wasn't developed when 80 percent of our job was either in diapers or not even born yet. Solution number two, make any incident coded as a 10-53 I(accident with injuries) by NYPD, or MVAINJ by EMS an automatic 5-7 signal(Engine and Truck response) for Fire. The continuing rumor that pin jobs get held up by PD before it gets released to EMS and FD is a bunch of BS. There's really no proof of it, and if it gets done intentionally, someone is out of a job.

It depends on the situation. Sometimes they just need to pop a door open with a Halligan, or hyperextend it, and that doesn't get reported to us. One of the things you hear a lot on the radio is reported pin jobs, but that's usually because when it's reported to PD, the call taker asks if anyone is trapped. The caller, not knowing any better,or wants to get help there faster by working the system, says the person isn't getting out of the car, so PD codes it as a pin job. 9 times out of 10, the units get there and it's property damage with injuries, or just property damage.

Just to add, Haz Mat, if my memory serves me right, carries two full sets of extrication equipment. Tactical Support carries spreaders and cutters. Not sure if they carry anything more than that.

Add Haz Mat and the Tactical Support Units to that list as well.

Just be careful you don't actually have to give a mayday. They did a live burn last year and it got a little out of hand.

When a person calls 911, and they give the PD operator the info, FDNY dispatched with one ladder company, or an engine and ladder if there is a report of a person in medical distress. If Housing doesn't know about it, we notify them. Every so often, someone calls for us again and Housing is already there, or they think that FD fixes the elevator.

I don't think I have ever been to a parade where people were leaning on sirens, horns, etc. The only time I ever saw it was when a department rode up 5th avenue with sirens going the whole way durng the PR day parade a few years ago. Honestly, I felt it made them look like idiots.

My condolences on your loss.

DISCLAIMER!!!!! Upon perusing this missive, readers may find the Blue Eyed Weirdos rantings to be humorous. However, if you look past the sarcasm, you will see that there is a point to this and I state for the record I am not trying to cast a broad brush of aspersions on any group of people, other than the Stupid. That being said, read on!!! With the World Cup of Soccer being played these past few days, I have noticed an above average swelling of pride in the home nations of many people in my fair city. I'm driving down Woodhaven Blvd. earlier tonight and I saw something that really bothered me. Here's a fellow, with an Italian flag attached to his antenna. OK, sounds good, so far. But, he has a much larger Italian flag covering the roof of his car. His doors are holding it in place. Now, as a former Boy Scout and US Serviceman(USCG 1992-96) I was taught to respect the flag, any flag of any nation. I find it quite disturbing that this gentleman, in a misguided attempt at showing his ethnic pride, is desecrating that flag. Not to mention the safety issues, heavens to Betsy, and Fotz it all to Hoboken, if that thing were to come loose and fly into oncoming traffic on that wonderful thoroughfare. Not to mention if it were to happen once this yutz passes Liberty Avenue and it becomes Cross Bay Boulevard and he ventures into Howard Beach, still a VERY large enclave of Americans of Italian descent. I first noticed this phenomenon a number of years ago when I lived in the Bronx. However, it was primarily people of Puerto Rican and Dominican heritage who attached these flags to the hoods of their cars. Then, ya get the CD's with the flags imprinted on them hanging off the rear view mirror.(This is non-specific in eithnicity) Am I the only one who wants to walk up and slap these people upside the head and say, "Hey F@$%o!!!! show a little respect and take that thing off your car!!!" ??? These are the things I think about when I'm sitting home at night and the wife is sleeping and I am bored outta my mind.

The other football.

Holy Smoke, we're actually agreeing!!! I have no problem with either one of them being charged as well. Now here's where I see where T 42 is coming from. The second call taker, while obviously being unprofessional, took action. Not sure if a jury of her peers will see it in the same light, but she is less deserving of a serious sanction as opposed to her counterpart. It's truly unfortunate, but it shouldn't have to take criminal charges against these two dispatchers to make everyone else out there do what they should already be doing. Do the job, do it right, and as I have said on this forum numerous times, "When in doubt, TURN EM OUT!!!!"

We do get the short end of the stick when it comes to a lot of things, and yes, you only hear about us when we screw up. This is why I play music on my night tours(at a level that will not interfere with/or distract from the operation) and put away a LOT of caffeine. Sorry, but if you can't hack working at night, switch to days. Commo, I feel your pain. National Dispatchers week recently passed, and there was nothing done to honor any dispatchers in my job. But then again, this is what happens when you have management with an average of 35 years in the job and think handling numerous major incidents at once is no big deal. I said it before, in my making life easier thread, you want to see what it's like on our side of the radio?? Come on over and see for yourselves.

RIP and God Bless, Newt.

I really only have one incident to draw upon but this post pretty much sums up my feelings. We had a wreck out on Nichols Street back in '96. PT was suffering from a concussion, fib/tib fracture and possible skull fracture. The captain on scene yelled and screamed for Stat Flight. We got Stat Flight and patient was transported. Later on, PT was found only to have a concussion, a few busted teeth and broken leg. Injuries that could have been handled at PHC. In the time it took for Stat Flight to get there, we could have had her packaged and being transported to PHC. Upon arrival at PHC, she could have been assessed by a doctor and if there was a need for her to be transported to WCMC, it would have been addressed then.

It's pretty obvious to me that they are far from getting a free pass. Now, here's where it gets fuzzy. The examples you state are valid ones. However, like we agreed on earlier, it hasn't been proven as to if this lady was dead prior to the first or second phone call. Apples and Oranges. The examples you posted are where those actions of a fire officer, or apparatus operator directly contributed to those deaths. Can it be proven that the actions taken, or lack of action directly contributed to this womans death?? I know I sound like a real dirtbag attorney here, but this is what I feel would be the defense, if it went to a homicide by negligence. What's to say she wasn't dead when she hit the floor?? The bottom line is, these two operators F'ed up big time and should get the punishment due. But to say they are guilty of criminally negligent homicide, sorry, this is where you and I will agree to disagree.

My friend, you have no idea.

With the exception of saying they are underway in specific bodies of water, there really isn't much else in the way of specifics. I understand where Hoss is coming from, though. If you notice, it doesn't say where the cruisers, frigates, or destroyers are. Nor do you see where the subs are. The ships that can inflict the most damage are not on this list. The war we are fighting isn't a war where the enemy has ships or subs and can attack our assets at sea, although seaborne suicide bombers are a factor. When I was in the service, we used to do ham radio based phone calls home from out in the ocean, and all we could say was we were underway and not say when we left port or when we would be returning.

There were quite a few times where I responded to the scene in Lake Carmel because I was closer to the scene than I was to the firehouse. Mind you, this was for EMS runs ONLY. I would advise P-911 I was responding to the scene(as an EMT) and handed my keys to someone who could take my car back to the firehouse. I think it has to do with the situation, especially when it comes to fires. You're not helping if you're standing there in turnouts and there's no equipment on scene. Different story, obviously if you're Fire Police.