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Gotta say, as far as rigs go, Indy looks sharp.

Rather than muddy up a fine incident workshop thread, I decided to start this one about a shift in attitudes. I've been seeing it more and more often in my line of work, and I am sure you guys out in the field are seeing it too. Before I begin, let me emphasize rather strongly, I AM NOT BASHING ANY PERSON, PROFESSION, OR DEPARTMENT!!!!! One of the points that got brought up is a general lack of knowledge. Street names, street locations. I do my best as a boss to stress learning this sort of thing because it will only benefit you. If an education type day comes along where you get some training on OT, and for some reason you miss it, take a little effort to learn that information while you're being paid straight time. Unfortunately, those I have suggested to immediately say they want the OT for it. Sometimes it boils down to wanting fairness, which I can understand. Most often in my eyes, it comes down to laziness, plain and simple. It could also be something that is required. It may not say it in your job requirements, which are usually the minimum required, but you should be educated on the aspect of your job. It may not seem like much, but it can only benefit you in the end. I could go on for a week with different examples, but it makes me very disheartened to see people who have the potential to be superstars in their line of work fizzle out for whatever reasons. Does anyone have any clue what brought on this shift in attitudes?? And I am personally getting really tired of hearing, "That's not in my job description". These are usually the first people to complain about something that's a perk or privilege afforded them. One bright side to this, and this is a bash when it comes to the person I am discussing. Simply put, if ignorance were dollar bills, this person would be richer than Trump. We had an accident on the BRP, and the assignment was screwed up before we turned it out. I looked over, asked what the CAD was recommending, and definitely didn't like what I heard. So, I said, "Send these two from this exit, and these two from this exit." After a minute of this person doing as ordered, they said sheepishly, "Now I know why Jimmy tells us all the time to learn where the firehouses are. So we can just look and see who to send when the computer doesn't get it right." I don't know if it truly sunk in, but I hope maybe one of these days it will. The current "senior guys" aren't always gonna be there, and the responsibility is going to fall on the not so senior folks, and I think the respect gets lost when the IDGAF attitude, or the IGM attitude comes in to play. And when it hits the fan, and you're that senior guy, and the Johnnies, Probies and Boots are looking at you and you're clueless, "whatcha gonna do?!?!!?" as Hulk Hogan would say(Tip o the Mets Hat to Mrs. FF274). Is there any way that our service, as a whole, can bolster, or adjust the do as little as possible, or only what's required attitude that is becoming more and more prevalent?? Discuss...

I was a probie dispatcher working in the Bronx CO that morning. Really cold and brisk morning. We originally sent 1 and 1(E-63 and L-32) and the 15 BN to cover Pelham. Then got redirected to the job. We were looking around for companies with fittings for the area. It ended up being the Engines Mike mentioned, along with 72 and the Satellite, pretty much a second alarm plus worth of units, although it stayed at an all hands. I think 48 Engine went up with fittings. But I can't believe it's been 10 years already. I do remember the chief from the 15 calling us later and telling us if it had been his fire, he would have dumped a 3rd the minute he pulled up.

It's a lack of respect because people don't know what we do. This is an easy job when you look at it at face value. The intricacies of the job are what make it difficult. I'm just trying to figure out how we, as a whole, can improve the attitudes of those in our line of work.

Read it, right on the money. The truth hurts sometimes.

Double edged sword, those who can't cut it should be summarily shown the door, and then you have others who have the "playbook" and exploit every page. Square-rooters, hairbags, skells. That's where one of my biggest problems lies. The work ethic I think has to be there before hand. And, if it's not instilled in people, you will contiue to get garbage. Here's the thing, and I've seen it in my experience. You don't have to have an interest in the job to be good at it. I think to me it's more about changing the $hitty attitudes people have.

Aside from being able to catch the rice rockets, is there enough room to put a perp in that thing?? Or, is it just for pursuit purposes?? Reason I ask is because I remember the old Mustangs in the late 80's/early 90's had a back seat.

What's even more incredible..look at the toll!!!

It is also CSX freight. They run over the Hell Gate from Queens and follow those tracks. There is also a rail yard in Oak Point. The freight lines are diesel and Amtrak runs catenary. Actually, had a guy struck by a train over there last week. I pass over these tracks and drive along them on my way into work every day.

I'm gonna build a little on Ed's post. Thankfully, this thread wasn't locked before I could expound on it. (Thank you Seth and mods) This is what I see, a bunch of kids from LIDsville being stupid. Doesn't matter where it is, it paints the fire service AS A WHOLE as unprofessional. Let's knock it off with this paid vs. vollie Schmutz already. As a member of this forum who is neither(former vollie, present paid dispatcher), it's getting a little tiresome. There's a video out there called "Posting and You" Maybe somebody should make a video like it and put it on YouTube so people who have some shred of common sense will think twice before putting something online that could get them in some trouble, or make them look like bigger idiots than they are.

Relative bearing grease?? Keys to the sea chest??

Bummer. About all I can say.

What exactly are they responding to?? Noticed a guy in what looked to be a dress uniform in the jump seat.

If I remember correctly, the 52 is a city landmark, just like the 19 in Manhattan.

Pay em what they're worth. Any possibility, you guys can union up with other county dispatchers?? IE P-911, 44 Control?? More members, political pull, etc.?? I have no idea how long we've been working without a contract. I think a year and a half.

I got three words for you, CALM YOURSELF, JUNIOR!!!! It'll get itself worked out, just give it some time.

No, full time or not at all. You can get a per diem job with one of the other EMS agencies in the city.

If you already have the body, aerial, and maybe some refurb to the tiller seat, would just getting a tractor have been out of the price range??

Is there a reason why this route wasn't taken/explored??

Thank you for the clarification. I went looking for it and couldn't find it.

The ESU Truck they used in True Blue was a Ford chassis with some heavy modifications, and a Swab?? Body Had the armor and what not up front. I looked on Mike Martinelli's site for it, but couldn't find it.

You mean Dennis Haysbert?? AKA Pedro Cerrano of the Cleveland Indians(Major League) He was actually the tillerman in Truck 1. The Snorkel had the identifier of Wagon 1. A number of years ago, I wrote a story for an Emergency Fan site, taking John and Roy and pairing them up with an FDNY house in the South Bronx. I started doing a cross over story of E! and Code Red that takes place around the same time as Code Red premeired, about 3 years after Gage and DeSoto get promoted to Captain. Haven't gotten anywhere than a rough draft due to writers block, and work. We'll see where it goes. The firehouse used in the show was an abandoned LAFD house, and I think the fireboat was the Ralph Peterson, which is now on blocks next to its firehouse in San Pedro. LA Firefighters, with a changed title to Fire Co. 132 was dreck. Rescue 77 was a joke, as well. I think they both lasted maybe three or four episodes. Funny enough, LA County is now building, planning to build, or has already placed Engine 132 in service. The LA Fire Authority thing was used instead of LAFD, and the recent change(at the time) from the Orange County Fire Dept. to the OCFA. PS for any of you Charmed fans out there, or your female companions who are, the ambulance used in Rescue 77 makes a few appearances in episodes of Charmed.

I could see this working if it is a small enough department where the officers get a specific car, or if they use magnetic decals.

That just don't look safe.

A guy I used to work with lived up there along Rt. 17, that's why I was asking. Seemed like a hell of a relocation.